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Bob truer words !!

One day I looked out at my dead end street to see a car in my driveway, I went out just as it pulled away, to my horror the woman had tossed her used Pampers into my bushes and sped down the hill!!

 

I couldn't believe it, if I had been thinking fast I would have hurled it at her rear windshield!!
 
Washing Diapers Etc.

It is about impossible to have detergent build-up in clothing, that is about as ridiculous as having sugar build-up in your coffee cup.

 

Detergent dissolves very easily and rinses away just as easily. You can get a bad mineral build-up in clothing from using TOO LITTLE detergent and of course from hard water, too cool a wash temperature and cheap ineffective detergents.

 

Using STPP is an excellent idea in your hard water, a water softener system for your home is an even beter idea.

 

When washing diapers a cold pre-rinse is just as effective and cold rinsing is better than using a warn rinse.

 

Washing in hot water is differently best as is adding chlorine bleach in the last few minutes of the wash cycle.

 

The goal is to get the diapers clean and germ free without ruining the environment, this is probably one of the good reasons that you are using cloth diapers in the first place.
 
I have to disagree

With the comment that detergent is easy to rinse out. When my cotton clothes become more scratchy than my wools just from using detergent and become soft again when neither detergent nor water softener is used - the cause is definitely related to the detergent.

Yes, the STPP has arrived and so far adding it to the water and letting it agitate briefly before adding the detergent (in soft water dose) is working much better than either using Calgon or detergent in hard water doses. My cottons are now detergent washed and are no longer torture devices. I added a little too much detergent to the last diaper load and it didn't rinse quite as well so now my diaper pail smells like detergent instead of dirty diapers.

So far I have only experimented with a store brand free and clear liquid (determined it's only good for the lightly soiled colored clothes) and the Oxydol with Biz. (Determined that it's better than the detergents I have used in the past)

I haven't sorted through the lists of detergents for a better detergent to use on the diapers so I just used the Oxydol one on the last couple loads. So far no sign of diaper rash or other skin irritation on my son.
 
Maybe Laundress

Will stop by to explain "encrustation"
If I understand whats she's mentioned in the passed, I think that it has to do with the alkaline detergents..their modern builders and hard water conditions.
In certain conditions, detergent dose build up on fabric.
Let's face it, were washing fabrics (a porous material) not a coffee cup (non porous)
And diapers are definitely designed to be porous.
STPP is going to be your best friend to assist, and to prevent encrustation. As well as optimal rinsing the of the detergent
(that's holding the dirt and oil) away.
But I'll let Laundress explain, as she know the nuts and bolts of this better than I do.
Sounds like you've found a detergent that works for you.
Let us know what detergent and STPP ratio works for you, and your water.
 
Encrustation In Fabrics

Is NOT detergent, it is minerals left behind from hard water and other poor washing practices.

 

 

 

Yes you can obviously leave a little detergent behind if you don't rinse fully, but it can be a good thing, detergent keeps the clothing soft, it also helps the clothing wash better next time they are washed and detergent helps lucubrate and protect fabrics from wear.

 

 

 

But residual detergent in fabrics will quickly reach a certain point based on the amount in the rinse water, it can not and will not keep building up in clothing each time an item is washed.

 

If this were true all you would have to do if you wanted to wash a big load of dirty laundry is throw in a big towel that had been washed many times before, LOL.
 
Inadequate rinsing can leave detergents in fabrics. I remember when TIDE XK was introduced with enzymes. People started getting rashes around waistlines from the enzymes left in the elastic starting to work on the proteins in their skin because one rinse was not enough. Now, with the use of non-phosphate builders in detergents in place of phosphate builders, not only can the hard water minerals, which are not handled as effectively by non phosphate builders in powder detergents, build up in the machines, but they can also build up in the fabrics because they do not rinse out as freely. I experienced this first hand back in the early 80s when ALL was about the only low sudsing detergent on the store shelves and my condo had the Westinghouse stacked washer and dryer. I discovered after I bought the ALL that it was a no-phosphate formula. I had to add Grand Union's phosphated water conditioner to every wash and to a deep rinse to keep the towels from feeling like wire brushes. You also want baby clothes and especially diapers rinsed thoroughly so that traces of detergent don't irritate a baby's delicate skin and so that in diapers, the detergent is not put back into solution when the diaper gets wet.

As for cold water pre rinsing of the diapers before washing, with today's lower water heater settings, you would want to do everything within reason to warm up the tub and the load before the hot fill so a warm pre rinse would help raise the temperature of the wash water because the warm tub and load would lower the temperature from the hot fill less than would a cold tub and load from a cold pre rinse. If the wash is started right after the pre rinse, you can also benefit from the hot water in the pipe drawn up to the machine as part of the fill for the warm pre rinse.
 
Detergent in Fabrics

If this were false, then I (and many other members) who made the switch from a conventional TL machine with the choice of HE rinsing (or not) would not have noticed considerably softer clothing when they switched to FL machines that rinse better. 

 

We had a water softener in use by the time we disposed of our previous TL machine, and the Miele seriously improved upon fabric 'feel' after the wash. 
 
If anyone has ever read the instructions for stripping leftover, unrinsed detergent or soap film from fabrics on the side of a package of water conditioner or in the owner's manual for a combo or front loading washer, the instructions say to use the hottest water the fabric can stand, load the laundry and add no detergent, just the proper amount of water conditioner. The suds that will appear are from the old detergent or soap being pulled from the fabrics. The instructions, which I believe were printed on the underside of the door for the lint screen and the bleach dispenser, for the old 33" WP-made combos said to do this until no more suds appeared in the little round observation window behind the access panel, then start using a low sudsing detergent.
 
 
Our 1962 Whirly toploader had the same instructions but I took that the procedure was aimed at clearing soap-curd residue, which problem the newfangled synthetic detergents eliminated.
 
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