Question-UK front loader comparision!

[newwave1]

Hey guys,
well as y'all no i've got a hoover logic 1300. i've had it about 7months now..& i fancy a change! i went past one of the recon places,i had to stop & turn around! To my amazement there was a very rare SERVIS QUARTZ! i would get the servis & keep the hoover,but for the moment i'm still living with rents & i no my Dad would get a bit grumpy about the idea of "Another" washer...

i was just wondering what you guys think would be the better machine? if u've used either machine? or known of people who've had them All thoughts appreciated

thankyooooooooooooou!

Darren

 

[Bearpeter]

....personally!!!

I would get the servis Quartz. To find one that is still in working condition is pretty good!
I found the Hoovers of the "Logic" variety a little boring but servis quartz have loads more options! I wanted one when I was younger but could only afford a hoover twinny! Should have kept the hoover looking back but hey!

GO SERVIS!!!!!!

 

[foraloysius]

Perhaps Jon is willing to adopt the Hoover!! I'm sure there is room for another washer in his bedroom. LOL

 

[nickuk]

Why not go for the servis ! It's another machine to experience isn't it. I think it may be a bit older than the Logic. I remember them being quite noisy - and sometimes the ones i used to use would bang a bit on an uneven spin ramp up. Still, miles better than Servis today which is made by Indesit and many need the `boards' replacing after about a year. Happy washing !

 

[spiraclean]

Microcomputer Controlled Servis Quartz 1000

Hi Darren,
I have a Servis Quartz 1000 model 602 it’s a great machine. Servis was the first appliance manufacturer in the world to produce a microchip controlled washing machine back in 1977; the first machines were ready in 1980, it was jointly developed with P&G and its wash cycles were designed to get the best results from Ariel Automatic as it was then called. The first Quartz was the model 600 it had many serious reliability problems including drum failures and bearing failures. If the Quartz you have found is a model 600 or 601 it would be quite poor reliability wise but if it’s a 602 then it would be a much better machine, it could even be one of the newer Quartz models with the door as the full front of the machine, these later models were reliable machines and also featured Polypropylene outer tubs, the famous SpinCare™ drum had also been replaced by a conventional multi hole drum in these later models and a 1200RPM spin speed was also available.

All the best.
Hugh

 

[foraloysius]

Hugh,

Miele introduced microchip controlled washers, dryers and dishwashers in 1978, that's the year they were available to the public, so I think Miele was the first. There is a statement about that on their German website, they claim to be that they were worldwide the first.

Louis

 

[spiraclean]

Servis were first

Hi Louis,
Miele may claim whatever they like however the fact remains that Servis then a British company produced the worlds first Microprocessor controlled washer the Servis Quartz in 1977 a full year before Miele; Miele my well have marketed their washer first but they were not the first to develop the technology that title is held by Servis and was well advertised at the time.

All the best.
Hugh

 

[nickuk]

Hugh, in the 70s and 80s were Servis machines `true' Servis, or were many of the components made by another firm like nowadays ? For some reason I always thought that there were links with Hoover back then... but that is just an impression I got having observed / listened to the machines in action. Would be really grateful if you could enlighten me !

Nick

 

[Designgeek]

If your dad complains about your appliance collection, just wait until dinner the next night and tell him you want to sell all of it in order to buy some fluorescent lights and hydroponic gardening supplies, to start growing marijuana. "Yeah, dad, and I can make some good money selling it to all my friends!"

Or tell him you've decided to become a "normal" kid and start having sex with anything that moves, and ask him for advice on avoiding sexually-transmitted diseases. "Is it true that I can't get the clap if I wash myself down with coca-cola? And does that work for HIV too?"

Nothing like a little perspective, eh?

 

[jetcone]

Louis

Do you know when ZUG produced their first front load totally automatic washer? Miele was 1957.

Jon

 

[lavamat_jon]

Microprocessor

Surely the Miele and Servis electronic control machines were being developed at the same time, so wouldn't it be more fair to say that they both developed the world's first electronic washing machines regardless of when they went on the market? Surely Miele electronics took more than a year to develop, but meh...

Jon

 

[lavamat_jon]

BTW Darren, My vote's for the Servis!! Keep the Hoover too, just ignore whatever comments your parents make. That's what I did when the Miele turned up unexpected to them on our doorstep...

Jon

 

[spiraclean]

A Great British Company

Hi Nick,
In the 70s and 80s Servis machines were indeed true Servis machines and the Quartz was their own British design, the program cycles were developed jointly with P&G to make efficient use of Ariel Automatic as it was then called. Servis front loaders were very advanced back then for example they had the SpinCare™ drum which was designed to reduce wear and tear on fabrics more than 20 years before Miele released their Honeycomb Care System, the Quartz also had inbuilt fault diagnosis in 1977, a rear fill tub design, they had slimline cabinets and were still able to take the standard 4.5KG 9Lb load, the Quartz has one of the best designed detergent dispensers I have ever seen being virtually self cleaning. The Quartz also had a unique multi fabric mixed load cycle which could safely wash a variety of items it also served as an advanced stain removal program; and of course I must not forget the soak wash cycle which allowed you to soak items as long as you liked, to quote the manual “One Tumble every 30 minutes till start is pressed”.
It’s really sad to see the less than impressive machines they sell today.

All the best.
Hugh

 

[lavamat_jon]

Hugh,

When were the Servis Quartz machines discontinued - was it along with Servis's buyout by Antonio Merloni in 1991?? I remember a lot of problems we have today at work with people who have their old Servis machines is that many had their kitchens built around them, and now they have to redesign their washer hole or relocate the washer to accommodate a new machine - the only disadvantage to the slimline machines. But that was also a fault with a lot of old washers, so you can't fault them just for that. How did the SpinCare drum do in spin drying with no perforations on the edge of the tub?

BTW In terms of Miele - their brochure claims that they were the first to reach 1000rpm in 1972 or so - however my Nana's Hoover Electronic 1100 from 1972 had an 1100rpm spin speed!!

P.S. did you get the email I sent earlier on?

Take care,

Jon

 

[lavamat_jon]

BTW, Nick...

Today's Servis machines are made by Antonio Merloni (who also make Asko), which is totally different to the Indesit Company, formerly known as Merloni Electrodomescitti (excuse my Italian LOL). Easy to confuse the two, as they are both company's of two brothers. One of the reasons Merloni Electrodomescitti changed their name to the Indesit Company was to avoid any further confusion.

Take care

Jon

 

[foraloysius]

Hmmm....

Jon (the British one LOL),

I don't see any facts about when Miele introduced their first 1000rpm spin machine and that they were the first to introduce 1000rpm on the German website. Is that a British brochure you are talking about? Actually I thought Philips was the first with the Philips CC1000.

Jon (yes you mr Jetcone),

I mailed V-Zug because they state on their website that their first automatic machine (a Unimatic) was introduced in 1950. It's a toploader but it's not clear if that is a V-axis or H-axis machine. I will come back on this when I hear from them. Constructa was supposedly the first to come out with an automatic washing machine (frontloader) in 1954, but who knows V-Zug was first.

Here's the link to the history page of V-Zug.

http://www.v-zug.ch/v-zug/internet.nsf/PageID/wandel_der_zeit_bilder_damals_heute

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis Selectronic 1976...

Darren, No Contest...SERVIS it is..

"Sold On Superiority Throughout The World"...(so the adds said then,)

The Servis Selectronic was indeed the first electronic machine to hit the markets, this was unveiled at the AMDEA Electrical show in 1976, and sold onwards...

The First Quartz models where based on this Silicone Chip machine.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis Quartz 600 Series...1983

Hi Darren, (Belated Happy Birthday by the way!!!)

Was it this one??

 

[chestermikeuk]

Servis Quartz 6033 Series...1986

Or This one, full door models