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I don't know much about these, just had to have one. Does anyone have an owner's manual?
I don't know much about these, just had to have one. Does anyone have an owner's manual?
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Hotpoint Control panel - look ma! No woodgrain!
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I have all the parts, bowls, rings, etc. but removed them to move it. There is also another of the porcelain "ridge"? that belongs on the oven bottom at front but it was loose and as I had to lay it down in the truck, I took it out.
I have all the parts, bowls, rings, etc. but removed them to move it. There is also another of the porcelain "ridge"? that belongs on the oven bottom at front but it was loose and as I had to lay it down in the truck, I took it out.
philr
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That's a nice microwave range Greg! Do you know how old it is? It looks similar to your GE but I guess it should be quite a few years older since it has convenience outlets... (I think they were banned in the States in 1976).
Versatronic
Greg, you've been looking for a Hotpoint like the one the one original to your house. Who knew you'd find one with a micro combination. I had a GE Versatronic and loved the way it shaved time off anything that would normally roast or bake. I'll post pictures of it after I get home.
Greg, you've been looking for a Hotpoint like the one the one original to your house. Who knew you'd find one with a micro combination. I had a GE Versatronic and loved the way it shaved time off anything that would normally roast or bake. I'll post pictures of it after I get home.
this is a 1987'ish TOL
Sorry to disappoint you Gansky but that is NOT a TOL 1987 Range. It is a a Circa 1979 one or two steps down from TOL. My mom bought that same range in Harvest Wheat in Late 1979. The only differences between the one my mom had and the one in your picture is the fact that my moms had a black glass panel door and a Green LED touchpad timer control (much like the ones used on the Magic Chef Microwaves of the day).....PAT COFFEY
Sorry to disappoint you Gansky but that is NOT a TOL 1987 Range. It is a a Circa 1979 one or two steps down from TOL. My mom bought that same range in Harvest Wheat in Late 1979. The only differences between the one my mom had and the one in your picture is the fact that my moms had a black glass panel door and a Green LED touchpad timer control (much like the ones used on the Magic Chef Microwaves of the day).....PAT COFFEY
Disappoint??
Hardly. LOL Just a mistake. The seller thought the condo was bought new in the mid to late 80's.
Hardly. LOL Just a mistake. The seller thought the condo was bought new in the mid to late 80's.
mikeklondon
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Hi I'm not good on the tec. stuff. I know our cooker point is rated at 60 amps 250 Volts and I'm wondering if its possible for me to ship a US range and use it here
Hi I'm not good on the tec. stuff. I know our cooker point is rated at 60 amps 250 Volts and I'm wondering if its possible for me to ship a US range and use it here
danemodsandy
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Sigh!
Greg:
That '87 GE is a nice, nice range - why can't something like that turn up here in Waterloo? Even with the woodgrain and the digital timer, it's head and shoulders above anything I've seen here in forever.
I am currently on a mission to get the landlord's BOL range replaced with a self-cleaner - I jes' cain't take hit no more. Obviously, if a GE J757 fell out of the sky, I'd be the happiest camper alive, but my standards are becoming more flexible by the minute. It's as bad as closing time at the bar, LOL.
This is a J757- made for several years in the early '70s. As you can see, it's basically an Americana with the upper oven sawed off:[this post was last edited: 11/30/2012-06:42]
Greg:
That '87 GE is a nice, nice range - why can't something like that turn up here in Waterloo? Even with the woodgrain and the digital timer, it's head and shoulders above anything I've seen here in forever.
I am currently on a mission to get the landlord's BOL range replaced with a self-cleaner - I jes' cain't take hit no more. Obviously, if a GE J757 fell out of the sky, I'd be the happiest camper alive, but my standards are becoming more flexible by the minute. It's as bad as closing time at the bar, LOL.
This is a J757- made for several years in the early '70s. As you can see, it's basically an Americana with the upper oven sawed off:[this post was last edited: 11/30/2012-06:42]
kenmoreguy89
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I'm going to buy one of these when I'll move to my father farm....
I like all these models of gasfire stoves, I particularly like the double oven model but I think in my kitchen will just fit a single oven model
I like all these models of gasfire stoves, I particularly like the double oven model but I think in my kitchen will just fit a single oven model
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norgeway
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Re Gasfire...
Where were these made, they look great???
Where were these made, they look great???
kenmoreguy89
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Italy 1950s and 1960s.....
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They're still plenty available for a fair price, they were very famous....
There're still authorized repair centers and parts after all these years...
I'd probably get one of this model:
There're still authorized repair centers and parts after all these years...
I'd probably get one of this model:
Wow, those Gasfires are really nice. I especially like the big oven windows. I'm guessing these were upper-end ranges, perhaps a bit like Chambers was here.
philr
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Mike,
Some members might know better than me since I've never been to Europe... But I can tell you that electric ranges here use 120 volts for things like the oven lamps, fluorescent lamp, pilot lights and the clock so you'd probably need a transformer for those and the clock would still run too slow because of the 50hz... And some older ranges have 120V burners (the 5 heat, 7 heat and others like GM's "Speed Heat" burners use 120V but regular 240V burners with infinite switches should be ok). But many ranges from the 1960's and on don't have that. For example, my 1960 Frigidaire Deluxe has all 240V burners with infinite switches so just the lights and clock would be an issue... And I know that some clock motors were available for 50hz but these might be hard to find... In my Frigidaire documentation, there are part numbers for some 50hz clock motors...
Some members might know better than me since I've never been to Europe... But I can tell you that electric ranges here use 120 volts for things like the oven lamps, fluorescent lamp, pilot lights and the clock so you'd probably need a transformer for those and the clock would still run too slow because of the 50hz... And some older ranges have 120V burners (the 5 heat, 7 heat and others like GM's "Speed Heat" burners use 120V but regular 240V burners with infinite switches should be ok). But many ranges from the 1960's and on don't have that. For example, my 1960 Frigidaire Deluxe has all 240V burners with infinite switches so just the lights and clock would be an issue... And I know that some clock motors were available for 50hz but these might be hard to find... In my Frigidaire documentation, there are part numbers for some 50hz clock motors...
kenmoreguy89
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Well from my experience I always used 120 volt heating and not appliances: portable range, sunbeam fryer, lamps, percolator coffee makers (including small motor ones my osterizer blender, Sunbeam Mixer, conair hair dryer etc...) with simple portable voltage converters 1850 watts and other one 2200 watts, it is years we have these appliances used regularly and we never had a problem with the difference of Hertz they works just like they should ,just the voltage gets converted with these converters not the hertz, specifically about the matter we're speaking of I tell you I have a 1100 watts portable electric burner range since 5 years and element works just like it should....
I knew the difference of hertz may become slightly dangerous for certain appliance types and if are used continuosly all the time (for ex a refrigerator compressor)...
I've read that generally this is not a big problem when you use a 60hz hertz appliance with 50hz, more if you use a 50hz with 60hz...
So I guess even a full size electric stove should not suffer the difference of hertz, I can just speak for my experience with my appliances, I'm not a tech but my appliances never did...
Here are some info I've read, not sure if fully correct:
I remember I've read once in an tech website a discussion (a girl asked how to run a 115 volt KA mixer in Italy) that a part the obvious converter suggestion, they stated to buy a japanese converter to convert 220-240 to 100 volt, they said that if you're using 60hz appliance with 50hz a general suggestion is to reduce respectively the the tension of the same difference coefficient so 115 should be 105 or 100 volt to avoid any possible damages that might occur, not sure if that is correct but that is what it was said....
But another guy stated that usually for heating and small motor appliances like toasters, blenders, mixers etc hertz difference usually never give problems, just for certain types of appliances with bigger and more sensible and complex motors that runs for long time like for ex a refrigerator compressor you could meet an hazard of overheating, motor effort and generally a reduced life of the motor. I've read in the same blog the example of the Japan where they have 100 volt 50hz but they use American appliances all the time and in US also use Japanes appliances with no problems....
Clock and lights issue:
I have a 70s Sears flip alarm clock that was of my granma, she gave me to bring with me to Italy when I was 10, it is my daily driver alarm clock and I use it with a portable travel converter 50 watts plugged there since 1999, it works like a charm with 50hz as well, never missed a second.
Now I'm not sure if it was supposed to work with both hertz but it states: 115 volt 60hz on the back label...
Not sure about a stove clock but if it is the same of my alarm clock it should work anyway I guess.
Lamps problem:
I have some lamps and lava lamps that I purchased from USA that still have 120 volt bulbs and works just as they should with the transformer...bulbs are nothing but heating elements so they shouldn't suffer changes of hertz.
So, personally I don't believe the hertz difference might be a problem even for an electric stove. I just told you what I think and what I've experienced and read, I'm not a tech maybe someone else might be more correct and give better advice/ info.
Personally I'd be more worried about importing costs though! LOL
Good luck
I knew the difference of hertz may become slightly dangerous for certain appliance types and if are used continuosly all the time (for ex a refrigerator compressor)...
I've read that generally this is not a big problem when you use a 60hz hertz appliance with 50hz, more if you use a 50hz with 60hz...
So I guess even a full size electric stove should not suffer the difference of hertz, I can just speak for my experience with my appliances, I'm not a tech but my appliances never did...
Here are some info I've read, not sure if fully correct:
I remember I've read once in an tech website a discussion (a girl asked how to run a 115 volt KA mixer in Italy) that a part the obvious converter suggestion, they stated to buy a japanese converter to convert 220-240 to 100 volt, they said that if you're using 60hz appliance with 50hz a general suggestion is to reduce respectively the the tension of the same difference coefficient so 115 should be 105 or 100 volt to avoid any possible damages that might occur, not sure if that is correct but that is what it was said....
But another guy stated that usually for heating and small motor appliances like toasters, blenders, mixers etc hertz difference usually never give problems, just for certain types of appliances with bigger and more sensible and complex motors that runs for long time like for ex a refrigerator compressor you could meet an hazard of overheating, motor effort and generally a reduced life of the motor. I've read in the same blog the example of the Japan where they have 100 volt 50hz but they use American appliances all the time and in US also use Japanes appliances with no problems....
Clock and lights issue:
I have a 70s Sears flip alarm clock that was of my granma, she gave me to bring with me to Italy when I was 10, it is my daily driver alarm clock and I use it with a portable travel converter 50 watts plugged there since 1999, it works like a charm with 50hz as well, never missed a second.
Now I'm not sure if it was supposed to work with both hertz but it states: 115 volt 60hz on the back label...
Not sure about a stove clock but if it is the same of my alarm clock it should work anyway I guess.
Lamps problem:
I have some lamps and lava lamps that I purchased from USA that still have 120 volt bulbs and works just as they should with the transformer...bulbs are nothing but heating elements so they shouldn't suffer changes of hertz.
So, personally I don't believe the hertz difference might be a problem even for an electric stove. I just told you what I think and what I've experienced and read, I'm not a tech maybe someone else might be more correct and give better advice/ info.
Personally I'd be more worried about importing costs though! LOL
Good luck
