Rebuilding Westinghouse laundromats

[travis]

Hi guys,

I have had a 55 set for quite awhile now. I recently got a 49/50 set. I am wanting to rebuild the older set this spring. What should I use for a replacement boot? I am trading off the 55 set to another collector.

I'll post pics of the 50 set as soon as I find my camera and feel like braving the ice.

Travis

 

[christfr]

OH REALLY......WELL... you have 2 sets?? whats up with that? personally i think you should keep the older set the ones with the blue trim on the doors those are so pretty and that one i did feel up it has a good changer. anyway a long time ago greg sent me on a search for a boot for mine its some sort of frigidaire boot that you have to retro fit into the machine. ill do some looking online to see if i can find it again. your gonna have fun with that baby she has to come all the way apart but it does work and whey are wonderful washers. hugs

 

[travis]

Chris,

I found the washer like yours locally. Last week, I was traveling to Ohio and stumbled across the matching dryer in Indianapolis.

The other set is a 55 with the grey plastic trim. A friend really wants them and I don't care which I keep. You can come feel up my 1950 washer. It might be good. It doesn't do anything when you try and run it.

 

[christfr]

just had to come off with an attitude ha ha to fun.. if you like the older set thats just fine. mine was dead when i got it too im sure for starts a timer is needed ill have to ask paul where he got his. stick you hand into the drum and turn it it should turn clock wise then try and turn it counter clock wise and see if the drum stops, your checking the prawl in the changer.

 

[christfr]

see they really do come apart

 

[3beltwesty]

Pump question and Is that machine in the photo 27" or 30

Christfr:

Here we had a 1947 model when I grew up. In 1976 we got a 3 belt potato pulley model that I have today.

Your pump looks like maybe? the same as one in a 3 belt westy; ie 5300165317 Q165317.

The reason I ask about the 30" width is the 5300165317 pump kit's instructions mention making the distance longer between the c clips on the drive spring for the 30" model.

I have not seen a model like yours in years and was wondering if is the same pump or not.

I thought the old pumps were different in the body, but used the same impeller, drive spring and seals, but are really using ancient brain cells thus maybe full of it.

When I was a kid the pumps were black or brown in color, then later they went to a white plastic. When a pump leaked the repair guy for our old beast just replaced the seals. One of my earliest remembering as a toddler is the repair guy working on that black pump. Also seeing an unbalanced machine walk too!

 

[combo52]

SLANT FRONT WH WASHERS

The SF washers were all 30" wide except the SF combos that we have are 32" in width. All the SF washers do use the same water pump kit with slight adjustment to the drive spring length. The original pump bodies were case pot metal and then were changed in the 1950s to black Bakelite plastic,then in the early 1970s they went to white polypropylene plastic I don't know the exact years of these changes.

 

[3beltwesty]

SF pump again.

For clairity;

Does this mean a 3 belt westy; ie 5300165317 Q165317 pump fits a slant front washer? It is in these instructions in mentions lengthening the distance when used on a 30" model.

 

[3beltwesty]

5300165317

5300165317 pump for Oval potato pulley machines

 

[austinado16]

Sounds like a fun project.

When I rebuilt my '53 LB-6 I used a grey boot off a later Westinghouse front loader. The only "mod" needed to use this boot, was that the inner lip had to turn inside out, and then be clamped to the tub's rim using a banding clamp. I worked for a car dealership at the time, and in the parts dept. we had banding clamp material on a roll, in bulk. So I cut off the length that I needed, and added the seperate tightening piece. Worked great for almost 13 years until the grey boot finally cracked and came apart to the point that I was no longer able to patch it.

I installed an original boot about a year ago.

The LB-6 and it's matching D-6 dryer have been out daily drivers since about 1996/97.

 

[3beltwesty]

SF Boot question

Austinado16;

Re

"When I rebuilt my '53 LB-6 I used a grey boot off a later Westinghouse front loader. The only "mod" needed to use this boot, was that the inner lip had to turn inside out, and then be clamped to the tub's rim using a banding clamp."

****Is the "later Westinghouse front loader." the 3 belt westinghouse with boot 5303261132 Q133321 like in this image:

To make a giant hose clamp an ancient method is to just connect in series many dryer 4" hose clamps; thus one needs about 3 to 4 for a boot this size.

http://www.repairclinic.com/Shop-For-Parts?s=t-5303261132-==

 

[combo52]

SLANT FRONT WH WASHERS

Yes the pump you pictured should fit the 30" models.

 

[combo52]

SLANT FRONT WH WASHERS

Yes the pump you pictured should fit the 30" models.

 

[combo52]

SLANT FRONT WH WASHERS

Yes the pump you pictured should fit the 30" models.

 

[austinado16]

3beltwesty....

Yes, that looks like it. Once installed it doesn't stay circular though because of how it has to open up and get deeper in order to span the distance from the tub to the front panel. But at the time, 2 or 3 years before I joined here, it was all that I could find and it helped me rescue the machine.

Right after putting the machine back together, I found and original boot, which I still have.

I've also modded a couple of the later water pumps to work, and they do just fine.

 

[travis]

pics

Here are my new babies. The tub won't turn in either direction. :-(

It feels so satisfying to match them up.

 

[christfr]

yeah now we both have a set of twins.. they are gonna be wonderful cant wait to see them in person.. start gathering up parts.. what are all the other jems in the back ground????

 

[travis]

Parts ordered

Ok, I ordered a couple boots and a couple pumps. Chris, where can I get these painted?

 

[christfr]

well i guess you can always look for a shop that can powder coat them but id i show you mine? i did both of them with with spray epoxy and they turned out ok

 

[jetcone]

Nice machines Travis!

Where did you order your boots from, I should get a spare to have on hand.

Thanks Jetcone

 

[travis]

I ordered that Frigidaire boot that was mentioned above. I had chased the Westinghouse boot for a couple years and gave up.

 

[3beltwesty]

5303261132 is mostly called the old Westinghouse front load

The Frigidaire boot 5303261132 Q133321 is for newer 3 belt Westinghouse, White Westinghouse, Gibson, Kenmore, Wards, J C Penney and Frigidaire machines of the 1960's thru early/mid 1990's. It might fit the 1950's spacemates too.

Austinado16 up the thread mentions using the newer boot on the older machines RE :

""When I rebuilt my '53 LB-6 I used a grey boot off a later Westinghouse front loader. The only "mod" needed to use this boot, was that the inner lip had to turn inside out, and then be clamped to the tub's rim using a banding clamp." "

An actual 5303261132 Q133321 Boot one buys has new old stock can have the Westinghouse, Frigidarie, Sears, Monkey Wards on the box; or just the part number. One I got 2 years ago had the wrapper marked with every Electrolux brand name under their umbrella.

5303261132 is most often called the boot for older front load westinghouses by most folks, and they forget about the older boot.

5303261132 shows up on ebay usually several times per year; the black boot for the 1950's L units shows up maybe once a year.

 

[combo52]

WH WASHER DOOR BOOTS

The 5303261132 boot fits 1959-1994 full size FL machines. It did not fit any Space-Mates before they went to the 27" cabinets in 1964. It does seem that many people have been able to get this boot to fit many other models.

 

[3beltwesty]

boot kitS; old part numbers

Here are some old boot part numbers and models they fit

http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/THREADS/VINTAGE/2009/26155.htm?18

 

[3beltwesty]

Q-4689

Another boot is the Q4689; the link to this same site says it fits spacemates

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?21387

 

[3beltwesty]

zoo of part numbers

In the zoom of old part numbers the latest 5303261132 boot is the same as :


* Q000047969

* Q000047970

* Q000047971

* Q000133321

* Q133321

* WQ133321

* 08015218

* 3261132




Thus an ebay or old parts house part is often listed by an older obscure number too

 

[austinado16]

This is becoming a great thread for us Westinghouse Laundromat lovers. IMO, it's not being able to get a boot that will ultimately be the death of these cool machines.

It'd also be nice to find a source for the rubber gasket that goes between the 2 halves of the outer wash tub. I've reused mine now twice and doubt I'll be so lucky next time.

 

[3beltwesty]

The tub gasket for my 1976 Westinghouse LT570 is 5303261135 old repair clinic 622756 old Q000127581.

I could not find any 5 1/2 years ago via the Internet. Several places like repair clinic and 1-1 parts said they had them, then they got back ordered, then the orders got canceled after 2 months. I ended up getting one from Cashwells in North Carolina via a phone request; when I was buying some other parts. Now they are better linked to the web and they show they have 9.

The old Tub Gasket part number for the B and C series was 1145078 and 1465275 for models L4 to LV114

I have no clues if the 5303261135 is even remotely close to either tub gasket or not.

One could just place a big wide bead of RTV on one piece and let it dry; then use that as the gasket too.

http://www.cashwells.com/?pid=EL5303261135&back=0&category=18

 

[3beltwesty]

WESTINGHOUSE PRE 1959 MODELS AND TUBS

The later models at the bottom of the list are 3 belt machines.

But are they a round or potato type pulley?

The pulley's part number of Q51167 shows little google details. Its federal NSN: 5120-00-632-2026 Part No goes "This NSN was canceled on 05/30/1974, reason: - ITEM IS CANCELLED-INACTIVE"

The OVAL potato pulley is Eccentric Pulley

Part Number: 5300198194 Q137175

* 08015219
* 3261152
* Q000048031
* Q000051211
* Q000071816
* Q000133591
* Q000133592
* Q000137175
* Q000198194
* Q137175
* Q198194
* WQ133592
* WQ137175
* WQ138642
* WQ198194


A fellow on ebay had a round slow speed pulley with the clutch spring last month.

 

[combo52]

POTATO PULLEY

Was introduced in 1959 on full sized models only, it was never used on the slanted tub [ clothes tanglers ] I think 1959 was the biggest improvement in the performance of WH FL washers. I do like the early machines however but they were a different beast.