Recent DDD's: 63 Frigi, 17 Tag, 57 Norge, 48 KM and the FANTASY FULFILLING 74 Stow-Away Norge

[mickeyd]

The 63 Frigidaire has a letter starting with the salutation:"Dear Frigidairians." Brought a smile. The TOL looks like Ben's with the 6 pushbuttons for Fabrics, and 4 more for options. But what I hope to get an answer from Robert or Ben about is this: some of the machines slow spin at 465 and others at 220. Like to know the why's and wherefore's about this. None of these are 3 speed machines and they all fast spin at 710. This was a long, satisfying read, full of surprises.

KILLER: Someone asked about wringer pressure on a Visimatic. It's automatic, as it is on Norges, and Speed Queens, all of those in the later years of production. But the Maytag had it from the get-go. Yeah, that primitive wringer had self-adjusting pressure from Day One. Ben and Dan, take a bow. Another Maytag Miracle. In the brochure, the female operators and attendants are dressed in turn of the century full skirts in drawings that look like art gallery murals. This DDD really looks like a sacred document.

Australia Alert: the 57 Norge DDD features a semi-automatic right here in the states. Wonder if one will ever turn up? I could not believe this. Also noteworthy is the discussion on the need for thorough rinsing and how the Norge is unbeatable in this regard. Listen to this:

"Mist Spin spray Rinse 1/2 min. 1&1/2 gallons

Tidal Surface Overflow
Wave { Agitated Overflow Rinse } 5 min. 11 gallons
Rinse Agitated Deep Wave Rinse

Mist Spin Spray Rinse 1/2 min. 1&1/2 gallons "

Now that, excuse my French, is frigging rinsing. Seems that the Norge can out-rinse anybody.

The semi-automatic has 3 buttons OFF WASH SPIN. You can't go from wash to spin without pressing off first. No fireworks. They don't tell you to spin before rinsing. Simply to start the overflow and rinse till the water is clear, approx. 6 minutes. Interesting. Compare the math between auto & semi.

 

MORE TO COME

 

EDIT: The system won't let the tab stay. It's like this in the document:

 

Tidal

Wave

Rinse

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[swestoyz]

1962 1/2 thru 1964 Multimatics had the same 2 speed agitate and spin speeds. You might have gotten the 220 slow agitate confused with the spin speed from the DDD as both were listed right next to each other in the chart on the bottom of page 23.

All speed changes were performed by changing the speed of the motor.

Here is a snip-it from the Multimatic chart I put together awhile back for 1963 models.

 

[mickeyd]

I misread exactly as you said.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Also learned the correct name of the dazzling bronze paint Frigidaire used as coppertone. They called it "Aztec Copper." We had the 65 CD in that shade, a real drool maker.

 

Another surprise was the "Overflow Soak." Never having experienced a Frigi with that cycle, I was pleasantly enlightened to see they offered an agitated one minute overflow at the end of the Soak. Do all Frigidaire Soak Cycles do this? (solid tub models, of course).

 

 

 

 

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[mickeyd]

The 48 Kenmore is a real dreamscape ~

There is a giant scroll down of the Main dial set in blue and white clouds. The dial says, not just suds as we've seen a million times, but, "SUDS-RETURN" prominently displayed. Wonder when the shorthand suds arrived.

 

Many members have seen extant video of Ross's round bolt-down Kenmore. In this DDD, we see that and another model where the round tub is set into a square back frame. It looks amazing, like the round one in metamorphosis, on its way to becoming a full square. Obvious TOL. Have never seen this before in any medium. Well worth the fee.

 

The delightful fetch, however, was in their discussion of nature's use of rain as a cleansing spray and how their spray rinses are modeled after nature's yet-to-be beaten method of rinsing. Paragraphs on this, illustrated, almost like a Botany text and fascinating.

 

The drawings suggest a more direct presence of the heavy pressurized spray which causes one to wonder if the fill flume was adjusted in later years, pointing more of the water into the outer tub. But I doubt it, probably just the artist's excitement.

 

[mickeyd]

It never stops

How many of us have played with Permanent Press Cycles watching the water drain hoping to see it all go away, flipping the water level from hi to lo to get ever more water out of the tub only to be ultimately disappointed when the pump shuts down leaving water in the tub no matter how diligent our ministrations.

 

Not any more.

 

The Stow-Away pumps out all of the wash water out "completely and the entire load is cooled completely in a tub of cold water before clothes are subjected to the centrifugal pressure of the first spin sequence. In addition, a second cold deep rinse is provided before the final spin."

 

If only we could find one of these. There are pages of detailed descriptions of all the goings on, like the PP wash time being a Bob-approved 14 minutes.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

Norge "Stow Away" DDD

I'm glad I downloaded & saved the Norge one (Which I believe are Regular Capacity) machines...

The dryers begin w/ LDE/LDG -series so they may be the models that Charles Klamkin recommends in his How-To book--at least there's some insight there, but I may have to dig out that book to confirm...

-- Dave

 

[combo52]

1962 Frigidaire Custom Imperails

I have the early build washer that still does the spin speed shift to 850 RPMS when used on the fast spin cycles, it even does this for about a minute between wash and rinse. I rebuilt this washer more than 20 years ago while you could still get all the parts needed to rebuild the clutch assembly, belts, water pump and seals for the transmission.

I also have the matching Filtrater dryer which I use in the winter months to add add extra heat to the basement, it works properly but is slower than the vented versions and still uses about 25% more electricity to dry the same load as a vented dryer.

 

[mickeyd]

Might change my name to Tidal Wave Rinse

John--Once you get the Norge combo, and need to move one out--surely you must be out of space by now--I'll be happy to buy your 850 rpmer, (laughing at that fat chance in hell).

 

Dave--if you want this Stow-away DDD, just ask Robert. You simply purchase one of the DDD's listed, don't download it, then The Wonderful Wizard tweaks his nose, and makes the DDD you want appear at the bottom of the page for down-loading. Interested to hear what Charles has to say about Norges, LOL.

 

[mickeyd]

The only DDD disappointment I've had

turned out to be a boon. It was the Hoover TT. I was looking for a good read about the spin-rinse, but the document covered the non-spin-rinsing model. It had detailed instructons for how to wash almost anything, loading procedures for blankets, etc. But the boon came in the rinse directions, advising the user to fill the spinner to the top with water. Waiting to try that trick soon. Maybe that's the other secret for great rinsing in the Hoover, besides the slow trickle.

 

All of these documents have surprises, and are fascinating reads; and unless I've been more deprived than most, they're a real tutorial and one learns a ton.

 

[mickeyd]

For example, take Yesterday's Westy DDD.

They really match, perfectly, both in size and control panel switches, a rare sight. They're yellow with striking multi-colored trim and gorgeous. The surprises, the 5 GE like buttons stay pressed in. The button of the cycle you're using. Colorfast.....Non-Colorfast......Gentle spin......Drip Dry......Blankets.....pops OUT. And look at those cycles! The graphics including the cycle letters are all in lower case, with long stlylish lashes on the "d's" for the 3 cold settings. Just really cool--and long-gone--stuff.

 

The "Deep Penetration" rinse is the first one, a tumble spray. And the "Silent Watchman" keeps the motor protected. Couldn't help but think of HBO's Vito and the Celluloid Closet with the coded cryptic references.

 

As a kid, the laundromat at Chrystal Beach, Ontario was a Westinghouse and the deep penetration rinse was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen.

 

 

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