Pardon for starting a new thread on my Whirlpool woes, but this should be the last *hopefully*!
Repairman came at 11am today, (don't ask about the appointment scheduled for Wednesday), and after much work (for which he felt his company should have charged me more), my washer now apparently does not leak!
Am here to tell you, anyone who has seen the inner workings of a belt drive Whirlpool must bow to the wonderful workmanship. Really is a shame nothing like this is made today.
Getting the upper plastic bits,agitator and inner tub off was a breeze, but the outer tub nut took almost one half hour of banging, clanking, swearing, muttering under his breath and finally sheer force to shift. After getting the darn thing out the poor man realised he was *NOT* going to be able to do the job without taking off the entire cabinet. Something one suspects he knew all along, but was trying to save time.
As stated in another post, didn't really want to interfere with Mr. Repairman and his helper, so stayed in the background and only came in when asked or handed something to move out of way (tubs, etc).
Could have saved myself the trip to the hardware store (and expense) for rust prevention/treatment products. The inner tub had no rust on the outside, save for a few bits in and near the center post area. Outer tub was rust free inside and out. Really should have taken a few snaps, but again didn't want to get in the way, and also camera wasn't charged.
Wanted to sand down and treat the bits of rust on the inside of the outer, but repairman shouted that it was not required and by applying what one had (Rustoleum Rust Treatment, then spray enamel paint), I was going to "ruin my laundry". So that was the end of that. Didn't want to do anything that would either tick off the man, or for him to note and say later (if the repair went south), that one had did something not advised.
Now that one knows where the rusty spots are, and that getting the inner tub off isn't *that* difficult, may well order some POR-15 later on and treat them anyway. But that is a job for another day.
Anywho, for all the seals one ordered, the man only used the center tub gasket and the tub nuts/seals repair kit. So here's me now with all these spin tube and other seals that are now surplus to requirements.
Did ask about changing the spin tube seal, but repairman said after examining the thing it was fine and untouched by water. To him this meant leaking was coming from above (the tub gasket), and to leave well enough alone. According to repairman such a repair would mean taking the transmission apart or at least off, and as you might guess, something he wasn't egar to do unless required. This meant that once the unit was put back together (new tub gasket seals and such), if the unit still leaked, he would have to go in again.
Must say after watching the two men take apart and put my little guy back together again, am really impressed with vintage Whirlpool design and build quality. I mean a twenty year or so old washer and not only were the tubs 99% rust free(god only knows what they coated and or painted them with), but the inner workings including belts and pump are still going like champs. Repairman did say he could tell someone had taken off the cabinet before (some of the screws were different), so perhaps the pump or belt had been replaced at some point in the past.
Can understand very well now why repairmen *hate* working these little vintage Whirlpools. Teh portables are built "backwards", which means the cabinet and everything else has to come off for repairs. To gets the repairs one has to put the machine back together, run it and hope the work took. If not the fun starts all over again.
Long story short, after machine was put together again, repairman allowed it to fill to the max and do it's thing. NO LEAKS! Floor underneath the unit was totally dry after the test run.
Oh well, now off to clean up after repairmen (who would think so much water and muck would come out of a "dry" machine?), and then run my own test load of items fouled during the repair.
Really must say thank you to all members for your kind support, assistance and works of wisdom. It looks like my little lad has been saved, and one owes it mostly to all of *YOU*.
Repairman's helper was an elderly gentleman, and even he marvelled at the machine.
Repairman came at 11am today, (don't ask about the appointment scheduled for Wednesday), and after much work (for which he felt his company should have charged me more), my washer now apparently does not leak!
Am here to tell you, anyone who has seen the inner workings of a belt drive Whirlpool must bow to the wonderful workmanship. Really is a shame nothing like this is made today.
Getting the upper plastic bits,agitator and inner tub off was a breeze, but the outer tub nut took almost one half hour of banging, clanking, swearing, muttering under his breath and finally sheer force to shift. After getting the darn thing out the poor man realised he was *NOT* going to be able to do the job without taking off the entire cabinet. Something one suspects he knew all along, but was trying to save time.
As stated in another post, didn't really want to interfere with Mr. Repairman and his helper, so stayed in the background and only came in when asked or handed something to move out of way (tubs, etc).
Could have saved myself the trip to the hardware store (and expense) for rust prevention/treatment products. The inner tub had no rust on the outside, save for a few bits in and near the center post area. Outer tub was rust free inside and out. Really should have taken a few snaps, but again didn't want to get in the way, and also camera wasn't charged.
Wanted to sand down and treat the bits of rust on the inside of the outer, but repairman shouted that it was not required and by applying what one had (Rustoleum Rust Treatment, then spray enamel paint), I was going to "ruin my laundry". So that was the end of that. Didn't want to do anything that would either tick off the man, or for him to note and say later (if the repair went south), that one had did something not advised.
Now that one knows where the rusty spots are, and that getting the inner tub off isn't *that* difficult, may well order some POR-15 later on and treat them anyway. But that is a job for another day.
Anywho, for all the seals one ordered, the man only used the center tub gasket and the tub nuts/seals repair kit. So here's me now with all these spin tube and other seals that are now surplus to requirements.
Did ask about changing the spin tube seal, but repairman said after examining the thing it was fine and untouched by water. To him this meant leaking was coming from above (the tub gasket), and to leave well enough alone. According to repairman such a repair would mean taking the transmission apart or at least off, and as you might guess, something he wasn't egar to do unless required. This meant that once the unit was put back together (new tub gasket seals and such), if the unit still leaked, he would have to go in again.
Must say after watching the two men take apart and put my little guy back together again, am really impressed with vintage Whirlpool design and build quality. I mean a twenty year or so old washer and not only were the tubs 99% rust free(god only knows what they coated and or painted them with), but the inner workings including belts and pump are still going like champs. Repairman did say he could tell someone had taken off the cabinet before (some of the screws were different), so perhaps the pump or belt had been replaced at some point in the past.
Can understand very well now why repairmen *hate* working these little vintage Whirlpools. Teh portables are built "backwards", which means the cabinet and everything else has to come off for repairs. To gets the repairs one has to put the machine back together, run it and hope the work took. If not the fun starts all over again.
Long story short, after machine was put together again, repairman allowed it to fill to the max and do it's thing. NO LEAKS! Floor underneath the unit was totally dry after the test run.
Oh well, now off to clean up after repairmen (who would think so much water and muck would come out of a "dry" machine?), and then run my own test load of items fouled during the repair.
Really must say thank you to all members for your kind support, assistance and works of wisdom. It looks like my little lad has been saved, and one owes it mostly to all of *YOU*.
Repairman's helper was an elderly gentleman, and even he marvelled at the machine.