cfz2882
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was the pulley broken as shown,or did the tech do that for some reason? Plastic pulleys are found in couple other 1990s-newer appliance designs,including MT Atlantis and Neptune.
Replace or Repair Speed Queen Top Load Washer
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Speed Queen plastic main drive pulley
Was plenty sturdy and was not designed to break away to prevent damage, but the problem it did have because Speed Queen uses the belt as a clutch. It did not allow the belt to cool enough. It made the belt run hot so they switched to an aluminum pulley about five years ago, which will help dissipate better.
In the 15 years we’ve worked with Speed Queen as an authorized seller and servicer. I have never seen a case where they have cheapened the machine. They have only increased Quality and construction quality of thier washers and dryers.
John
Was plenty sturdy and was not designed to break away to prevent damage, but the problem it did have because Speed Queen uses the belt as a clutch. It did not allow the belt to cool enough. It made the belt run hot so they switched to an aluminum pulley about five years ago, which will help dissipate better.
In the 15 years we’ve worked with Speed Queen as an authorized seller and servicer. I have never seen a case where they have cheapened the machine. They have only increased Quality and construction quality of thier washers and dryers.
John
Sometimes I'll gaze at a design and marvel how that came from a human brain....like an automatic transmission. Other times, I'll stare at a design and ponder "WTF were they thinking?"
Using a plastic pulley in a slipping clutch design serves as a "WTF were they thinking?" moment.
It took Speed Queen just 5 years ago to change to metal pulley what Maytag figured out 70+ years ago?
REALLY???
Using a plastic pulley in a slipping clutch design serves as a "WTF were they thinking?" moment.
It took Speed Queen just 5 years ago to change to metal pulley what Maytag figured out 70+ years ago?
REALLY???
The technician told me the pulley was broken - and it looks damaged in the video I linked in Reply #17 of this thread. I do not know if he damaged it further when making the repair.
Many of you who responded to this thread seem knowledgeable about these washers. Is there any maintenance I should be doing? The owners manual mentions wiping down the control panel and cabinet, keeping the lid open, and checking the filters in the fill hoses, but that is it.
Many of you who responded to this thread seem knowledgeable about these washers. Is there any maintenance I should be doing? The owners manual mentions wiping down the control panel and cabinet, keeping the lid open, and checking the filters in the fill hoses, but that is it.
Required or recommended maintenance on automatic washers
That’s really all you need to do is keep the thing clean. I’ve told hundreds of people when I installed a new washing machine for them that the most important thing they could do is when they added detergents and bleaches and other additives not to pour it all over the machine to put it in the washer
There is no necessary routine maintenance on a washing machine. It’s not An airplane that your life depends on if something does go wrong and something will go wrong eventually, but you won’t be able to prevent most failures without going to heroic efforts.
The plastic main drive pulley on the transmission was used for over a decade and over the past 15 years. We’ve probably replaced 10 of them. The failure rate was very low mind you they were also used on commercial machines that are run all day long with a very low failure rate.
By contrast, Maytag made plenty of mistakes they used to stamped steel pulley to drive the pump belt in the early 80s almost 100% failure rate over the useful life of the machine in the 80s are used to stupid dual lid switch system which used a micro lid switch which probably had more than a 50% failure rate in the life of the machine and one of the worst faults was using polyester material for a damper pad when that failed it totaled the washer by contrast, Speed Queen damper ring will probably never fail in the life of the machine if it does it’s a simple repair. Every machine has its faults and manufacturers learn from their faults and correct the things to Maytag credit they mostly tryed to repair things, but certain faults remained throughout the life of the product
I’m not just picking on Maytag whirlpool belt Drive and direct drive machines were full of design faults that could’ve easily been corrected, but they chose not to do it.
John
That’s really all you need to do is keep the thing clean. I’ve told hundreds of people when I installed a new washing machine for them that the most important thing they could do is when they added detergents and bleaches and other additives not to pour it all over the machine to put it in the washer
There is no necessary routine maintenance on a washing machine. It’s not An airplane that your life depends on if something does go wrong and something will go wrong eventually, but you won’t be able to prevent most failures without going to heroic efforts.
The plastic main drive pulley on the transmission was used for over a decade and over the past 15 years. We’ve probably replaced 10 of them. The failure rate was very low mind you they were also used on commercial machines that are run all day long with a very low failure rate.
By contrast, Maytag made plenty of mistakes they used to stamped steel pulley to drive the pump belt in the early 80s almost 100% failure rate over the useful life of the machine in the 80s are used to stupid dual lid switch system which used a micro lid switch which probably had more than a 50% failure rate in the life of the machine and one of the worst faults was using polyester material for a damper pad when that failed it totaled the washer by contrast, Speed Queen damper ring will probably never fail in the life of the machine if it does it’s a simple repair. Every machine has its faults and manufacturers learn from their faults and correct the things to Maytag credit they mostly tryed to repair things, but certain faults remained throughout the life of the product
I’m not just picking on Maytag whirlpool belt Drive and direct drive machines were full of design faults that could’ve easily been corrected, but they chose not to do it.
John
Yeah, every manufacture tries to save a penny or 2 here and there but a plastic pulley is quite insane in a slipping clutch application. There's just too much heat generated in that design. I'm willing to bet that plastic pulley was at least one of the reasons they ate up belts at a faster rate than they do now.
I never had a pulley failure on my 412 but it does occasionally happen. Usually when the machine was well over 20 years of age. I guess it depends on ones view of what the lifespan of an appliance is. Same goes for damper pads. I'm sneaking up on 16 years on my HA806 and damper pads feels exactly the same as they did when I cemented and lubed them 16 years ago. Lube the pads every 20 years and they'll last forever but they'll easily go beyond 30 years before damage occurs in a typical 4 person household. Most people don't keep a washer that long, at least, anymore.
I never had a pulley failure on my 412 but it does occasionally happen. Usually when the machine was well over 20 years of age. I guess it depends on ones view of what the lifespan of an appliance is. Same goes for damper pads. I'm sneaking up on 16 years on my HA806 and damper pads feels exactly the same as they did when I cemented and lubed them 16 years ago. Lube the pads every 20 years and they'll last forever but they'll easily go beyond 30 years before damage occurs in a typical 4 person household. Most people don't keep a washer that long, at least, anymore.
kalanikaau1
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Here's
the old, intact pulley from my machine, a TV2000WN.
I agree that it looks flimsy, not at all in keeping with the robust construction the rest of the machine is renown for.
The basic operation of the machine is very simple, it simply reverses rotation of the electric motor to achieve either agitation or spin modes.
Maytag employed the same principle of operation, I wonder who copied who?
the old, intact pulley from my machine, a TV2000WN.
I agree that it looks flimsy, not at all in keeping with the robust construction the rest of the machine is renown for.
The basic operation of the machine is very simple, it simply reverses rotation of the electric motor to achieve either agitation or spin modes.
Maytag employed the same principle of operation, I wonder who copied who?
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