Ricky Martin Comes Clean

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Being gay is not that big of a deal anymore for most people. After all, this is the 21st century.
 
Being gay is not that big of a deal anymore for most people.

Oh, how I wish that were true. Unfortunately there is still reality to contend with.
 
Ricky Martin may not be "big" on the mainstream USA market, but he still does well with the Latin market. Hey, the man owned then sold a nice sized place in the Time Warner complex on Central Park South, then moved on to Tribeca/Financial centre, not to mention his other properties in Miami and elsewhere. Adding to this the funds to engage a surrogate to birth his two sons (and keep quiet about it), and so forth. So would say his money has to come from somewhere.

As for "gambling", most of these bets started either in college or when one was working in various offices. You know, it would be a slow day and us girls sitting around reading magazines and gabbing, sooner or later someone would gush about how so and so was so "handsome" and wanted to marry whomever that man was. Of course they never would believe said man was "not the marrying kind", so would offer to make a wager. The rest, as they say is history.

So far have called and collected on:

Lance Bass ,(back when he was still with Insk, or whatever that band was called).

Neal Patrick Harris

Sam Champion (local weatherman)

Anderson Cooper

Mike Woods (another local weatherman)

Jim McGreevy (disgraced former governor of New Jersey)

Edward Koch (former mayor of New York City)

To name a few.

Now if Tom Cruise, Calvin Klien and a few more pan out, just maybe able to purchase that retirement condo on Boca! *LOL*
 
"Livin' La Vida Loca"

Can mean two thing "the crazy/wild life" or "the gay life."

UH HELLO? IS THIS A SURPRISE?

Just remember boys and girls and girly-boys, just because one prefers, say, vanilla doesn't mean hthey can't have chocolate or rainbow/ "tutti-frutti" once is a while.
 
As For Harming Is Career

Ricky Martin is middle-aged with a slight paunch, and a father of two, though while still attractive, one tends to think yes at this stage of his life,coming out isn't going to harm him.

Besides he has to consider his sons, far better for the thing to be settled thus not making it a big deal, rather than to have continued whispers and innuendo. Not to mention some explination is going to have to be given for all those "uncles" that sleep over. Indeed am willing to bet having all this done whilst his sons are still infants means the whole thing will blow over by the time they enter school.
 
Laundress.. so what do you figure on George Clooney?

I'm being very honest here, I have NEVER seen the man in a movie yet.. I don't go to movies, I seldom if ever rent a DVD and never one of his yet. I have only ever seen him as a guest on some talk show etc or in movie trailers on tv but for some reason my gaydar lights up.
 
I've Got Nothing

On GC, though am working one of my major sources.

One of my hairdresser friends has a boyfriend (or could be "ex" by now), who works as a "personal trainer", and in the whole David Geffen party loop.

We've taken to nicknaming this person "The Manicurist" after the character from the film "The Women". *LOL*

As for Tom Cruise, aside from my bets, really don't care anymore "is he or isn't he". Am willing however to pay good money to see what he looks like without his "toupee", or whatever hair restoration method is being used.
 
George Clooney

There was quite allot spilled about the man a year or so ago after having an auto accident and was hospitalised in New Jersey. Apparently everyone from doctors, nurses to security staff was busy running their mouths, especially to Internet gossip sites such as TMZ.
 
he still does well with the Latin market

After this he WONT Spanish dont like comming out of the closed one bit. I can assure you. Openly "gay" is NOT acceptable. I know a number of spanish men VERY well and they have VERY different views of it than gringos. do. Most will never be seen with a openly admittied gay person. Wifes even see it different.. have know many that will go to a bar with hubsand to make sure he dont go home with a woman or a "queen" another cowboy gets her blessings everytime.. And have even know them to call and make dates for them. And bring them over.
 
Well Being As That May

Am still going with the man has other larger concerns, that is his sons, to worry about. I mean after all why bother making this statement now? Nothing in his life really has changed beyond the birth of his children, something he must or should have given serious thought to before contracting the thing out.

Clay Atksion (sp?), came out shortly before or after the birth of his child, and IIRC so have most of the famous or at least in the public eye gay and lesbians who have had children.

Yes, society is changing, and while things may not be as great for gays as many would like them to be, once becomes a parent either out of decision or whatever, the well being of that child or children is now the number one priority.

Back in the day manya child with gay or bisexual parent "knew" something was going on, but without the constant 24/7 media exposure we have today, that knowledge was kept fairly close. Today you could ship that child off to a boarding school in the Alps and dirt would still find them.

Mr. Martin probably has other financial means aside from his musical career, lord knows Lance Bass isn't short of bob or two, so maybe his career (or what there is left of it), didn't really matter.
 
Former mayor Ed Koch.....

Very.

Even a boy like I, out in the provinces, figured that out 37 seconds after he took office.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
and, Frankly my dear...

It has been public knowledge that Clark Gable would put himself "out for trade" in Hollywood before he became an MGM superstar. It wasn't that unusual in the early days of tinsel-town for young attractive men to exercise their version of the casting-couch to get ahead. It's the main reason Gable demanded that the Selznicks remove George Cukor as director of "Gone with the Wind"(Cukor had all the dirt on all the boys in Hollywood. Read his biography. Apparently gays and straights coexisted very comfortably in old Hollywood and practiced their version of "don't ask don't tell with full cooperation of all parties concerned. If you doubt this go back and review the long friendship between Lucy/Desi and Van Johnson).

What was surprising to me was to meet someone recently (whom I believe) who had sex with Clark in the baths in Greenwich village many times in the Sixties. Apparently Clark lived a very well concealed double life.
 
The List of Former and Current Hollywood

Hunks that were gay, or at least help out if there was a rush, has always been known to be rather more vast than some would imagine.

Antonio Sabato, Junior
Markus Schenkenberg (sp?)
Oh let's not forget John Travolta

And whole lot of other major and minor stars and those that never quite made it, did what they "had to do" to get ahead (pardon my pun).

Rumor has it that Roddy MacDowel's papers have tons of juicy dirt, but they are sealed until long after we all will be in our graves. Would have LOVED to be the legal secretary in the office whom either typed up the papers or has access to the safe/file drawers. I wouldn't go out to lunch for ages! *LOL*

Today much of the "closeted" Hollywood, A-List and Washington DC set runs with either David Geffen parties and a few other power gays (as Kathy Griffen likes to call them)set. From what one understands there is pretty good sized universe of rent boys,personal trainers and others who run with this pack, and know very well to keep their mouths shut or else. First of all they would loose their clientle, and or god only knows what would happen to them. Remember the hysteria in certian quarters when it was thought Andrew Cunnan left behind papers that could reveal names. Then the sigh of relief that not only did this turn out not to be true, but many were "happy" (if that is the proper word), that the man was dead, thus no longer a threat.

Today Mr. Cunnan convicted murderer or not could make a fortune by going on TMZ or the like and outing people.
 
Wow so much dirt....

@sudsmaster:
You left out the best part. "I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here." "Your winnings sir." "Oh thank you!"

@alr2903:
Don't trust anything Kenneth Anger writes. He was good at getting dish but never cared if it were true.

Now for my dead Hollywood gay: Billy Haines! (Or maybe William Desmond Taylor--if the rumors were true.)
 
Count me among those who have George Clooney pegged. I've seen him a few times go out of his way to "act" gay with other men publicly, like in a talk show situation, in order to throw people off. He does this so predictably that it's clear he's trying too hard to deflect.

He can haul around all of the female arm candy he wants, but he's not fooling me. What chick wouldn't want to hang with a guy who is loaded with money and will never try to get her into bed? Hello!

Ricky Martin? That is not even *old* news anymore.
 
~I know a number of spanish men VERY well and they have VERY different views of it than gringos. do.

Well I met some Hispanics of Central and South America who believe auto-erotic activities are evil and bad, yet homosexual encouters are acceptable, as long as one plays the aggressor/"male" role.

This was very puzzling to me I (I was in my 20s at the time) until it was pointed out that there may be a 16th or 17th century backwoods-farm mentality present. The lack of eduction and information in some of these places even today is quite alarming.

Then again entire societies were inflenced by pirates coming over from Europe on ships that had few if any women on board.

Questions: Without television, radio and internet, what does on think the men were doing for enterainment?

Answer: Horizontal activities.

Perhaps the pirate ship mentality spilled over into society in general.
 

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