hoover1060
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I didn't know there were bans on these things!
Robert I thought of you when I saw this!
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Well thank you Jeff, I wonder if my six dryers are counted as part of that 88 million number????
hoover1060
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or my 3 dryers?
I've never hung clothes out to dry myself, never thought of it really, and living in a townhouse, I don't have alot of space for a clothesline.
My mom always hung stuff out though, and I remember when I was growing up all the neighbors around us had clotheslines too.
Its definately a lost art I suppose.
I've never hung clothes out to dry myself, never thought of it really, and living in a townhouse, I don't have alot of space for a clothesline.
My mom always hung stuff out though, and I remember when I was growing up all the neighbors around us had clotheslines too.
Its definately a lost art I suppose.
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Clothes Line Ban
OMG I have never heard the likes of that. I can't imagine such a ban being passed into law in the UK or indeed anywhere in Europe.
Line dried clothes are wonderfully fresh and I'm particularly lucky that I can dry my laundry in a sea breeze as my garden runs down to the beach.
David
OMG I have never heard the likes of that. I can't imagine such a ban being passed into law in the UK or indeed anywhere in Europe.
Line dried clothes are wonderfully fresh and I'm particularly lucky that I can dry my laundry in a sea breeze as my garden runs down to the beach.
David
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David, what a lovely English garden you have! What are the types of plants in the foreground?
I think that as a token of agreement, we should all buy a clothesline from the Vermont Clothesline Company!
There is some interesting information on their website. It's worth a read anyway.
I think that as a token of agreement, we should all buy a clothesline from the Vermont Clothesline Company!
There is some interesting information on their website. It's worth a read anyway.
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Hi whirlcool,
Thank yu for your comments. I'm not a plant expert by any means that's Mum's department. I can tell you the pink flowers on the left are an old fasioned trailing Rose, the larger red shrub is a Fuschia and the white blooms are some kind of large Daisys. I will ask Mum later is she knows the proper names. The Fuschia attracts all manner of Butterflies and Bees as its produces a lot of nectar rich blossoms and it keeps blooming constantly throughout the spring and summer months.
The garden actually turns to the right as it nears the beach and runs behind the next two houses. It takes me a good hour to cut on the ride on mower.
David
Thank yu for your comments. I'm not a plant expert by any means that's Mum's department. I can tell you the pink flowers on the left are an old fasioned trailing Rose, the larger red shrub is a Fuschia and the white blooms are some kind of large Daisys. I will ask Mum later is she knows the proper names. The Fuschia attracts all manner of Butterflies and Bees as its produces a lot of nectar rich blossoms and it keeps blooming constantly throughout the spring and summer months.
The garden actually turns to the right as it nears the beach and runs behind the next two houses. It takes me a good hour to cut on the ride on mower.
David
David, what part of the country do you live? That view is stunning... better then my view of suburbia, though I do have the Lincoln Ridge and fields in the background as well as the cathedral if you look to the left.
Here's my humble little rotary airer in suburbia:
Here's my humble little rotary airer in suburbia:
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Hi Jon,
Thank you, you have a nice view yourself.
I live on the Ards Peninsula in Northern Ireland between two small villages on the east coast. I like the sea view as its constantly changing, the tide is out in the picture when its in all the rocks are covered and then there are calm days and rough days with white waves. On a clear day I can see the Isle of Man and the west coast of Scotland.
I think it's full moon tonight so I will try and grab a picture of it rising, it always makes a nice picture.
David.
Hi Jon,
Thank you, you have a nice view yourself.
I live on the Ards Peninsula in Northern Ireland between two small villages on the east coast. I like the sea view as its constantly changing, the tide is out in the picture when its in all the rocks are covered and then there are calm days and rough days with white waves. On a clear day I can see the Isle of Man and the west coast of Scotland.
I think it's full moon tonight so I will try and grab a picture of it rising, it always makes a nice picture.
David.
We put in a permanent clothesline this summer and I typically have dried no more than a few loads of towels in the dryers since then. I love the scent of the fresh air in the clothes and it's FREE!
I'm all for "right-to-dry" laws but would be more excited with a comprehensive NATIONAL energy policy that would overturn line-drying bans in the entire country, among other things. (Hummers) I'm not saying every home in Beverly Hills needs rope strung between trees in the front yards, communities can certainly attach rules such as not being used on Sundays, between certain hours of the day, etc. -- just not ban them completely.
I'm all for "right-to-dry" laws but would be more excited with a comprehensive NATIONAL energy policy that would overturn line-drying bans in the entire country, among other things. (Hummers) I'm not saying every home in Beverly Hills needs rope strung between trees in the front yards, communities can certainly attach rules such as not being used on Sundays, between certain hours of the day, etc. -- just not ban them completely.
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I agree that there should be some sort of national policy overriding HOA's banning clotheslines. Isn't this still a free country? Tell the old biddies to stay inside, and pull their shades if it bothers them that much. I have posted the link many times for the type of clothesline that we have, and I love being able to move it around the yard to catch the best possible breeze.
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....... I would love to be able to hang clothes out. Sadly i
Terry -
If you want to hang your clothes out, GO FOR IT! Since you live in Florida, it is illegal for any entity - government or homeowner's association, to ban the use of clotheslines as it qualifies as a renewable resource device and cannot be banned. If someone is telling you it's a no-no, they may not know what the hell they're talking about.
Andrew
Terry -
If you want to hang your clothes out, GO FOR IT! Since you live in Florida, it is illegal for any entity - government or homeowner's association, to ban the use of clotheslines as it qualifies as a renewable resource device and cannot be banned. If someone is telling you it's a no-no, they may not know what the hell they're talking about.
Andrew
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Homeowners Associations deed restrictions specifically state that clothes drying lines, apparatus etc. are not allowed. Is the "renewable resource" able to withstand that language?
The HOA's are good about reminding members that you've signed off on a set of documents and of course agree to all the rules and regs contained within. Otherwise you are not in compliance etc. You are part of some sort of a democracy in an HOA.
I've been written up for these serious offenses:
*putting trash cans out too early in the evening before trash day.
*rust stain in the driveway from fertilizer overspray
*brown spot in the lawn within "X" # of feet from the sidewalk
*vistors parking their car on the street overnight
*not immediately replacing a palm tree killed by a lightening strike.
Heaven forbid, a clothes line!
Homeowners Associations deed restrictions specifically state that clothes drying lines, apparatus etc. are not allowed. Is the "renewable resource" able to withstand that language?
The HOA's are good about reminding members that you've signed off on a set of documents and of course agree to all the rules and regs contained within. Otherwise you are not in compliance etc. You are part of some sort of a democracy in an HOA.
I've been written up for these serious offenses:
*putting trash cans out too early in the evening before trash day.
*rust stain in the driveway from fertilizer overspray
*brown spot in the lawn within "X" # of feet from the sidewalk
*vistors parking their car on the street overnight
*not immediately replacing a palm tree killed by a lightening strike.
Heaven forbid, a clothes line!
^^Lord Have Mercy!
Homeowner Associatons are like co-op boards; usually a bunch of pint sized sargent major bossy boots with a control problem. Cannot think of any house one would wish so badly to put up with living under either's tumb. Long as I pay my bills and are not committing a crime, what I do on my property/in my home is my business. First person who tries to take away my clothesling may very well find themselves strug up by it. Or at the very least keel-hauled though a gold fish pond.
*LOL*
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*LOL*
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In Florida, no entity can ban the use of a clothesline...not a Home Owners Association, county, city or state government. It's been tried and tried over and over again, but the law is very clear. Of course, that's just Florida. That doesn't stop HOAs from making other assinine rules, but they do not have the authority to ban a clothesline under any circumstance. HOAs have been sued and lost.
I am certainly not saying that people should have lines strung across their front lawns, or have clothes hanging over balconies. I purposely refuse to buy a house within a HOA as I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do with my home.
I am certainly not saying that people should have lines strung across their front lawns, or have clothes hanging over balconies. I purposely refuse to buy a house within a HOA as I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do with my home.
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My HOA is not the brightest group, and I've gone a couple rounds here and there with the association manager numerous. I'd repeatedly asked them NOT to use my roof to get onto the roofs of the houses on either side of me(mine is the lowest in front of the house) mainly becuase it freaks Jack out. I'd initially asked them to notify me when they would be on my roof, that way I could crate Jack and he would not freak out with the footprints on the roof.
I was pretty much ignored, until I came home one day to find my front gutter all bent, and a flowerpot broken. I summoned the assoc. manager over and showed the bent gutter and broken plant and repeated that nobody was to be on my roof without my permission.
The manager told me I'd just have to deal with it and the broken plant and gutters were MY responsibility to fix. I calmly went in the house and grabbed my mortgage payment book off the kitchen table where I keep it, and took it outside and handed it to her. She was puzzled, so I told her if she was going to make all the descisions about the house then she could make the mortgage payment every month then too. I put the book in her hands and walked back in the house and shut the door. Only seconds passed before she was ringing my doorbell. I took my book back, and have had no problems since...I don't pay that fee every month to be a servant to the association!
My HOA is not the brightest group, and I've gone a couple rounds here and there with the association manager numerous. I'd repeatedly asked them NOT to use my roof to get onto the roofs of the houses on either side of me(mine is the lowest in front of the house) mainly becuase it freaks Jack out. I'd initially asked them to notify me when they would be on my roof, that way I could crate Jack and he would not freak out with the footprints on the roof.
I was pretty much ignored, until I came home one day to find my front gutter all bent, and a flowerpot broken. I summoned the assoc. manager over and showed the bent gutter and broken plant and repeated that nobody was to be on my roof without my permission.
The manager told me I'd just have to deal with it and the broken plant and gutters were MY responsibility to fix. I calmly went in the house and grabbed my mortgage payment book off the kitchen table where I keep it, and took it outside and handed it to her. She was puzzled, so I told her if she was going to make all the descisions about the house then she could make the mortgage payment every month then too. I put the book in her hands and walked back in the house and shut the door. Only seconds passed before she was ringing my doorbell. I took my book back, and have had no problems since...I don't pay that fee every month to be a servant to the association!
I can't believe your write-ups from the HOA, Leslie! That's just incredible. I guess the only way to neutralize some of the venom is to get involved in the governing board and risk being swept up in the frenzy of brown spots on lawns.
Good for you, Jeff, your property rights should be respected and it sounds like you were able to illustrate that point well!
My neighbor and I both have clotheslines, mine is the "T" posts and lines, theirs is an umbrella-type dryer. They once told me that a few years ago, some friends bought a house a few blocks from here. They put up an umbrella dryer in the back yard and began using it. Within a few days, they had a letter from several of the surrounding homeowners complaining about the clothes hung outside and expressed their disdain for not only that, but offered a veiled threat of legal action claiming possible damage to their property values. The husband of this family is a lawyer and with the neighborhood covenants and restrictions in hand, moved the clothes line to the FRONT yard where it stayed - used daily for the rest of the season. No more was heard from the neighbors on that subject again. The neighborhood/development was formed in 1947 and the covenants made no mention of clotheslines whatsoever - mine are almost identical, no mention of clotheslines.
Good for you, Jeff, your property rights should be respected and it sounds like you were able to illustrate that point well!
My neighbor and I both have clotheslines, mine is the "T" posts and lines, theirs is an umbrella-type dryer. They once told me that a few years ago, some friends bought a house a few blocks from here. They put up an umbrella dryer in the back yard and began using it. Within a few days, they had a letter from several of the surrounding homeowners complaining about the clothes hung outside and expressed their disdain for not only that, but offered a veiled threat of legal action claiming possible damage to their property values. The husband of this family is a lawyer and with the neighborhood covenants and restrictions in hand, moved the clothes line to the FRONT yard where it stayed - used daily for the rest of the season. No more was heard from the neighbors on that subject again. The neighborhood/development was formed in 1947 and the covenants made no mention of clotheslines whatsoever - mine are almost identical, no mention of clotheslines.
