RUMOUR MILL! (MIELE)

[mrb627]

Miele

Soon, Miele will outsource all of its machines to China. Quality and reputation will suffer. Then they will be bought by Haier (gasp)

Malcolm

 

[dave886]

wow image that mile being brought by hair oh no

 

[hoover1100]

can you like get over the miele snob statement, it was a jok

A bit of a tactless joke on a forum where anyone who has read a few posts will know that it is a controversial subject and is bound to provoke strong reactions.

Lets not forget that inverse snobbery is equally as superficial and pointless as snobbery, and that appreciating the quality of a luxury brand does not make someone a 'snob', liking a brand just because it is expensive and looking down at people who don't own it is snobbery (something I have never seen take place in 6 years of reading and participating on this forum).

I do reguarly see and experience people turning their noses up at Miele and looking down at those who appreciate their quality (and hurling insults such as "snob") so perhaps the snobbery lies with certain other members more than those who like Miele?

Either way, you can say what you want, most of us are stuck in our ways and will always have our preferences whether they can be justified or not, who cares?

I'm pretty sure LG just licensed their direct drive from Fisher and Paykel anyway and simply slapped it in a front loader, don't quote me on that though as it may be the other way round. They are basically the same either way, so no where near as 'unique' as LG claim.

I'd rather spend a grand on a Miele than an LG I know that for certain!

Matt[this post was last edited: 11/9/2012-17:25]

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/lg-f1495bd-direct-drive-washing-machine-white-11558954-pdt.html

 

[logixx]

Considering how long the warranty is on the motor on LG mach

Well, my Duet has an induction motor that comes with a 10-year warranty. Bosch/Siemens motors (the induction ones) have the same warranty as do the Electrolux ones. I think is just due to the fact that these motors use friction-less technology.

Alex

 

[mrb627]

Motor Warrantee

I wonder if that motor warranty is worth it, if the motor fails because of a bearing failure resulting from leaking seal. Sure, the motor is covered, but you have to purchase the tub, bearing, seals, and labor to get your free motor.

Malcolm

 

[logixx]

Of course.

 

[foxchapel]

>>>"Sure, the motor is covered, but you have to purchase the tub, bearing, seals, and labor to get your free motor. "

Reminds me of a '89 Volvo 740 Wagon we owned for 11 years. Practically everything else in the entire car was replaced/rebuilt *except* the motor, which was going to run for another 11 years. I was going broke fixing everything else.

 

[launderess]

Lifetime Warranty On Motor

Reminds one of those same offers on tubs of washing machines and dishwashers. The catch was sure the company backed the tub, but more likely than not that would be the last thing to go anyway. One could spend a small fortune over the years on other repairs long before the tub itself rusted out or otherwise invoked that warranty.

 

[launderess]

Nothing Snobish About It

To understand Mielelust one must also understand the cult of German engineering which makes all manner and sorts of products out of that country highly sought.

It also helps to understand the German culture for they are as a nation known as one of the most thrifty in Europe. When it comes to consumer goods this often translates into demanding high levels of quality. If a German household is going to shell out money for a washing machine you better believe the thing is going to not only do the intended job, but last a very long time.

http://machinedesign.com/article/engineering-in-germany-1107

 

[launderess]

Not Withstanding The Above Comment

At least according to "Which?" consumer magazine Miele is beaten in terms of reliability by LG, Hotpoint, Hoover, John Lewis and a host of others.

Which washing machine brand is the most reliable? - Which?

We've surveyed thousands of people to discover the most reliable washing machine brands. Use our exclusive Which? data to help you choose an appliance that lasts

www.which.co.uk

 

[chestermikeuk]

Please Read In Context......

The table listed is in Alphabetical order, Miele would most certainly not be beaten for reliability by hoover Hotpoint Beko and others....Miele is often the "Which best Buy"

"Nothing Snobbish About Miele" - Then we need to sack the marketing department, because that how they have made such an impression on the rest of the world - The Brand Stands Alone and Stands Apart - the only headache that Miele will continue to have is "How to Increase Their Sales of Higher Ticket Machines, instead of their core market being the cheapest machines on their price list!!

And once a prestige brand becomes the NORM, then consumers with attitude start to look elswhere and "Create The Next Miele"....One Wonders What That Will Be?

 

[ronhic]

Here is the listing

Washing machine Which? reliability index
Brand Rating Score
Miele excellent 93%
John Lewis excellent 91%
Beko excellent 89%
Bosch excellent 88%
AEG/AEG-Electrolux
good 84%
Zanussi/Zanussi-Electrolux
good 84%
Siemens good 84%
LG good 80%
Indesit good 80%
Hotpoint satisfactory 76%
Whirlpool satisfactory 73%
Hoover satisfactory 70%

Please note that Beko beats Bosch in this instance.....though there is a slight blip as John Lewis machines are made for them by Zanussi....

 

[launderess]

Stand Corrected - That Will Teach Me To Post First Thing In

Who creates a ranking chart in alphabetical order anyway? *LOL*

 

[ronhic]

Which do....to make you subscribe to see the real results.

 

[launderess]

Never Noticed

But will check Consumer Reports (USA version of Which?) to see how they list rankings.

 

[hoovermatic]

resent that remark- educated and sensible enough to realise £850 on a machine with a 10 year guarantee= £85 per year and no repair bills......

Seamus

Personally, I have never been too interested in Miele washing machines so have never thought of it along these lines but when you do, you realise what a eminently sensible investment it is. I have heard of people who have had Miele washing machines for 20+ years and indeed passing them on to their children after a lifetime of service which makes your £85 a year quite gernerous! Considering the washing machine is one of, if not the hardest working appliance in the house and with a family even more so, I would say that it is a brilliant investment for the peace of mind. However, people would rather spend more than double that on a TV what is obsolete technology after 24 months. Horses for courses.

 

[MrX]

How could Bosch and Siemens have such radically different ratings on that table.
They are the same BSH machines under two brands

 

[ronhic]

Bosch and Siemens

May well be part of the same group, but there are other factors that will influence ratings such as the average age of machine...Bosch may well have a younger sample that will reflect in being more reliable.