Samsung 220 volt-Vented Combo Has Been Delivered - First Impressions

[Unimatic1140]

So on Tuesday I ordered the Samsung 220 volt/vented combo online from Lowes and it was delivered yesterday which was the next day. I ordered it from Lowes because they were the only place I could find that you could get it in White or as they call it "Ivory". I wonder if the White has been discontinued as even Samsung's website no longer shows it. I wasn't thrilled to see only the front is white and the sides are dark charcoal, but I don't care about that too much. It looks like a big laundromat dryer lol! I put it in this spot temporarily until I get the LG out of my "modern room" and will move it in there once that is done.

I purchased this combo washer/dryer to replace a 18 year old LG washer that is on it's last leg and having errors and other problems. I mainly use that LG once or twice a month for washing comforters or other large items that wont fit in the vintage machines.




I'll type up my first impressions in my next post coming in a few minutes...

 

[Unimatic1140]

I really like the fact that at the end of the cycle it tells you how much water and power it used along with how much liquid detergent and softener it dispensed from the automatic dispensers. Those dispensers hold about nearly a full bottle of product.

First wash load went just fine which was a wash only cycle using the AI function. Wash only because these items I hang to dry. It detected automatically it was a small load with Normal amount of soil...

 

[Unimatic1140]

2nd load was my cleaning rags that I normally wash in the Unimatic or AW6 GE. I was shocked to see it used 31 gallons of water, when the Unimatic uses 28.5 for the exact same load. The main reason it used so much was absolutely ridiculous and the programmers should be fired. During the wash I pulled out the lint filter out just to check it out and the machine stopped, drained and said lint filter removed do you want to start the cycle over! Dumbest thing I've ever seen. Just pause the machine if someone removes the filter to check if it's clean for heavens sake, or better yet keep going!!!

 

[Unimatic1140]

Third wash load was 5 standard size bath towels, the same load I did when I made the 1947 Frigidaire full cycle video on YouTube. It washed and dried perfectly without any issue, again however I was surprised to see it used 24 gallons when a Unimatic uses 28.5, granted in the Samsung a lot more of the water use is cold water however for the rinsing...

 

[vacerator]

Cool Robert! I guess 18 years is good for an LG, or any new unit. My sister in law has the GE combo. The motor was just replaced under warranty. Less than 2 years old.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Fourth cycle was an absolute DISASTER! Five bath sheets/towels. Four of those towels is a standard Unimatic load which is the max that machine can take to give you an idea of the load size. Again over 26 gallons!

The wash load went fine and the towels came out clean HOWEVER they stuck to the sides of the drum during dry and never peeled off to tumble. When I returned to unload I had to put them in my gas dryer to dry them.

 

[henene4]

The "items sticking to drum" thing is an issue with many combos.
Most do something to prevent this from happening, like starting heating during spin, special spin patterns, very long anti crease steps after the spin, etc. Don't see why this couldn't start the dryer fan and heater up during the spin.
But there isn't a 100% sure fire way to not get that to happen.
A pretty big laundry YouTuber (whichwasher2007) uses the TINIEST dose of softener to prevent this.
Many things can help, but it shouldn't be your job to take care of this.


The water usage is high - but that has all been the Sanitize or Towels cycle.
I would assume both do multiple rinses and/or use more water.
Keep in mind the drum on these is as big as some dryer drums - larger drums always meen slightly higher base usage and very quick scaling of usage if you want higher water levels.

 

[Unimatic1140]

The other strange thing is the clock and estimated times are off. I had to set it to Mountain time to get the clock to display in Central time, otherwise it shows the time as being one hour ahead (eastern time).

 

[henene4]

The other strange thing is the clock and estimated times are off. I had to set it to Mountain time to get the clock to display in Central time, otherwise it shows the time as being one hour ahead (eastern time).

Given this runs some kind of Android operating system on some level, that could be a daylight savings settings thing burried somewhere.

 

[Unimatic1140]

The "items sticking to drum" thing is an issue with many combos.
Most do something to prevent this from happening, like starting heating during spin, special spin patterns, very long anti crease steps after the spin, etc. Don't see why this couldn't start the dryer fan and heater up during the spin.
But there isn't a 100% sure fire way to not get that to happen.
A pretty big laundry YouTuber (whichwasher2007) uses the TINIEST dose of softener to prevent this.
Many things can help, but it shouldn't be your job to take care of this.


The water usage is high - but that has all been the Sanitize or Towels cycle.
I would assume both do multiple rinses and/or use more water.
Keep in mind the drum on these is as big as some dryer drums - larger drums always meen slightly higher base usage and very quick scaling of usage if you want higher water levels.

I like the extra water so it's not a complaint, just pleasantly surprised. The machine only has one rinse or you can select a 2nd rinse as an option. My old LG allows for 3 rinses.

 

[Chetlaham]

Perhaps not the place to say it but I will say it. HE is a scam. An electro-mechanical toploader with a resource saver spray rinse provides the ultimate in cleaning, performance, water and energy savings.

 

[foraloysius]

Holy cow, 26 gallons is almost 100 liters which is quite a lot considering the load is probably less than 6 kilograms.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Holy cow, 26 gallons is almost 100 liters which is quite a lot considering the load is probably less than 6 kilograms.

I know Louis, I also said Holy Cow lol. However I was pleasantly surprised that it didn't try to get by with a tea cup of water on the Towels cycle. Towels cycle is not Sanitary so it still used quite a lot of water.

 

[henene4]

I like the extra water so it's not a complaint, just pleasantly surprised. The machine only has one rinse or you can select a 2nd rinse as an option. My old LG allows for 3 rinses.

I thought I had seen the UI on these where you can set the number of rinses as is typical for Samsungs anywhere from 1 to 5.

Oh the wonders of software changes OTA...

 

[Unimatic1140]

I thought I had seen the UI on these where you can set the number of rinses as is typical for Samsungs anywhere from 1 to 5.

Oh the wonders of software changes OTA...

No there is just a simple check box for 1 extra rinse. At that rate 5 extra rinses would be 53 gallons like the 1965 Wards!

 

[henene4]

No there is just a simple check box for 1 extra rinse. At that rate 5 extra rinses would be 53 gallons like the 1965 Wards!

You're completely right - the US versions only get the extra rinse option.
The EU has the set up where you set the actual number of rinses. (You set 3 rinses, you get 3 rinses etc.)

Some of the other FLs in Samsungs line up have that set up - so I really don't get why this in particular doesn't...

 

[foraloysius]

Here’s the cycle chart. I never understood Samsung’s choices in regard to cycles. Why on earth can’t bedding be washed in hot or extra hot? Etc.

 

[mrb627]

How does this machine detect when the clothing is dry? Is it purely thermostatic?

 

[DADoES]

Here’s the cycle chart. I never understood Samsung’s choices in regard to cycles. Why on earth can’t bedding be washed in hot or extra hot? Etc.

Less Microfiber? If the load has more microfiber, then what?

 

[Unimatic1140]

Here’s the cycle chart. I never understood Samsung’s choices in regard to cycles. Why on earth can’t bedding be washed in hot or extra hot? Etc.

I know I saw that too Louis, it was so ridiculous that I removed that Bedding cycle from the available cycles to choose from. And what makes it even worse is you only can select "Normal" Spin for bedding, not High or Extra High which wastes energy spinning so slowly. I'll use Steam Whites or Normal with Hot for sheets.

 

[Unimatic1140]

How does this machine detect when the clothing is dry? Is it purely thermostatic?

I have no idea actually how it detects clothing dryness actually.

 

[Unimatic1140]

At least I can see and hear a proper washing machine while using the 21st century combo lol!!!!!

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[Chetlaham]

Here’s the cycle chart. I never understood Samsung’s choices in regard to cycles. Why on earth can’t bedding be washed in hot or extra hot? Etc.

My guess: energy efficiency. US machines are being biased more and more to default to a cooler setting and/or regulated settings like reduced warm, cool and tap cold water instead of hot and 50/50 warm. Most top load US washers today will not let the hot water setting go above 100*F and warm water go above 70*F. Contrast to my Speed Queen which has a non tempered control system using a NOS 50/50 mixing valve giving 140*F on hot and ~105*F on warm.

Both tempered and defaulting to the next lowest temperature are particularly pointless in a front load washer. Even if a user selects hot water and the machine allows for a tap only hot water fill it will quickly cool down to warm due to the clothes, glass, inner and outer tub absorbing the heat.

The most energy efficient front load washer designs fill with tap cold water and then heat it somewhere between 70*F and 200*F based on the fabric being washed.

I wish all US front load washers had an onboard heater with a target temp for each cycle. This is the most ideal, most assured, most energy saving while providing the best wash and sanitation results possible.

 

[Unimatic1140]

This morning I did a load of colors and it was a success. The size of the load was too big for any of my 50's machines but fits perfectly to make a maximum size load in my 1962 General Electric-V12 12lb machine. Here is the end results, still 20 gallons with AI selected! One wash and two rinses. Everything was perfectly dry at the end of the cycle and 1:55 minutes isn't too bad for a modern combo.

 

[henene4]

Bedding on Samsungs should be more of "Blankets" cycle from what I understand.

Lower spin speeds to limit any balancing troubles.
Medium wash temps for you sofa throws, any covers etc. - anything more decorative.
Really not designed for how one would wash hygiene critical items like sheets, pillows from a bed and any duvets used for actual sleeping.



But then again so many people from the US suggest washing your pillows in cold water.
And I'm all for energy efficiency, but those stuffs actually need heat.
Can't really kill dust mites any other way...

 

[vacerator]

The bedding cycle on my Samsung 4.5 cu. ft. front load washer is a deep water slow reversing for comforters. I use quick wash for one sheet set. You can select hot for it, not steam, and it does not fill with any cold water.

 

[washerfinatic2]

I found the EU washer only version to be seemingly understating its water usage - half load of cottons washed on cotton with 2 rinses gave a final consumption of 17.25L/4.5Gal. Energy & detergent seems realistic

 

[gelaundry4ever]

So on Tuesday I ordered the Samsung 220 volt/vented combo online from Lowes and it was delivered yesterday which was the next day. I ordered it from Lowes because they were the only place I could find that you could get it in White or as they call it "Ivory". I wonder if the White has been discontinued as even Samsung's website no longer shows it. I wasn't thrilled to see only the front is white and the sides are dark charcoal, but I don't care about that too much. It looks like a big laundromat dryer lol! I put it in this spot temporarily until I get the LG out of my "modern room" and will move it in there once that is done.

I purchased this combo washer/dryer to replace a 18 year old LG washer that is on it's last leg and having errors and other problems. I mainly use that LG once or twice a month for washing comforters or other large items that wont fit in the vintage machines.

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I'll type up my first impressions in my next post coming in a few minutes...

Have you tried the normal cycle? How did it perform?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Perhaps not the place to say it but I will say it. HE is a scam. An electro-mechanical toploader with a resource saver spray rinse provides the ultimate in cleaning, performance, water and energy savings.

Besides, you need water to clean, not balance the load. What the heck were they thinking?

 

[chestermikeuk]

Oh modernity in its newest form, its certainly a big beast Robert, weird to see the white front and charcoal sides its not like its a modular appliance to be built in. Interesting seeing the comparisons with water usage to the vintage machines.

Did the delivery men deliver downstairs or did Annie take the hit ? and if so what were their faces like on seeing the collection?

Love the fact its a vented combo that really would reduce drying time over condensing, as for the spin sticking the clothes to the drum that must be down to the spin programme patterns, my combo is the new LG 10kg / 7kg dry and have never known that even with 1400 spin, saying that I always take the stuff out , shake and place back for drying.

What`s going on in the corner ? is that a spin dryer with a pipe on its drain snout ?

Enjoy the testing !!