Samsung recalls more than 660,000 washing machines after fire hazard reports

[combo52]

Samsung versus LG

Both these companies make some very interesting appliances. I don’t think there’s very much difference between the two companies many other products are made in China. I personally try to avoid buying Chinese appliances when we make perfectly good things here.

I would not call the broken upper oven door on the LG stove I designed the fact a lot of oven doors are made that way with no edge on the tempered glass, I dare say you couldn’t break it again if you tried, if you just hit glass the right way it will break.

I don’t think LG front loaders are all that great having the recirculating pump really doesn’t do anything except bring dirt and lint up in to your laundry from the sump and have it stick in your clothing it really doesn’t improve cleaning at all my front load Speed Queen does not have a pump and I put these massive loads in it. They get wet takes a few minutes and they wash beautifully.

John

 

[ryner1988]

John

In your opinion, are there good FL options out there, aside from Speed Queen? My sort of plan if I needed to replace my DD TL was always to get an SQ TL or LG FL and keep my old WP dryer. Would you not recommend LG then?

 

[combo52]

Great front loading washers

Hi Ryne

Whirlpool makes excellent front load washers right over in Clyde Ohio, you can get them for less than $1000 and you can actually get parts and service for them if needed.

I would prefer to buy American made union built over a combination of Korean Chinese, assembled in some nonunion plant in the south any day.

LG and Samsung’s biggest problems are lack of parts and service information, if you’re going to buy one, make sure there’s a local dealer that wants to work on it.

John

 

[moon1234]

Not too surprising. Our consumer magazine released it's latest test of washing machines. They buy three samples of each model they test and run them through 1.640 cycles. Both Samsung and LG failed, due to bearing failure and cracked concrete weights, respectively.

I a Miele W1 with 8000 hours on it. Well over 5000 cycles. I have another W1 with 3000 hours and over 2000 cycles. I will find the money to pay for quality. It makes me ill to see so many cheap appliances being disposed. Most of those components will wind up in a landfill. That is not sustainable or good use of resources.

I am a Christian and not a save the planet person, BUT I also believe God made us stewards of the creation we were given. MANY of the product decisions made today reveal that many people take no responsibility for the purchase decisions they make. The resources and energy that go into making a product should go towards making them reliable, long lived and able to be reused or responsibly disposed at the end of its useful life. What is happening today is borderline criminal for our children and future generations.

At this point the most long lived item in many homes will be a cast iron frying pan. My mother has her mothers and those will be passed down as well. By the time they make it to use they will be over 100 years old. Should we ever need to recycle them they can be directly melted and remade into something else.

All of our appliances should have a manufacture to recycle plan before they hit the market. Sending them to landfill is not a plan.

 

[appnut]

Well John, I say it again. IF SQ would put a heater in their damn front load washers then I might buy one. Contrary to what YOU think, Europeans are intelligent and really know laundry processes with heaters. My experience with having 3 front lloaders, one without a heater, and two with a heater, wash results are far superior with difficult stains with a heater and super hot water. I personaly think LCB is far too harsh on fabrics. Once I STOPPED using LCB, my items that had routinely been blached, lasted far longer without LCB and gradually heated to very hot water was far superior and textiles lasted far longer.

 

[mark_wpduet]

appnut - agree and disagree...

Back when I had a TL washer and we'd pour a cup of bleach for whites... I could totally see it breaking down the fabrics sooner... HOWEVER, now that I have a FL which uses a miniscule amount of LCB, I don't notice this at all...I can't believe how much LCB we used in the past... WAYYY too much... If I could go back in time, I'd be pouring like 1/3 cup (IF THAT)... I only use white towels so I can bleach them, and they are 20 years old and still look great

But yea - we need a heater... but I thought SQ had a model with a heater in it now...maybe I dreamed that or something. LOL

 

[ozzie908]

Whirlpool Dreamspace.

I have no idea how old this is but it keeps chugging on and washes and rinses really well and with a 1400 spin it makes drying really quick, I kept it as I could not be bothered to move it out the shed...

 

[appnut]

Mark, wayy back in the early days of recent front loaders (late 1990s, early 2000), Amana (remember this was when SQ was making washer that had the Amana brand label on it) had a model with a boosted heat hot wash option. It was very bref, like 8 minutes lol. But it was pulled from the market. And eventually SQ did offer pretty much the same model, but I guess it didn't sell very many. No other front loader being sold offered a heater (the early Neptune and Frigidaire models). Around the time of the 2001 or 2002 Wash-in, Sears had recently begun selling their HEe3 and He3T models (the T model had an onboard heater). And we had to go to 2 different Sears stores to get to see the Hettie. There is a photo somewhere in the world of our own ChesktermikeUK checking out the He3T and was "arming the Hettie". And remember this was back in the glory days of when Whirlpool would allow Sears to have an exclusive before the WP brand offered the same feature. There were some members that purchased a He3T and abolutely loved having the Sanitize cycle and a few other cycles that also used the heater to incerase and maintain warm & hot wash waters. And they could tell a difference.

 

[panasonicvac]

I honestly like our LG washer and dryer. We bought them because our service technician recommended them. I also recall that the technician recommended Samsung as well, I can concur because I also like my uncle's Samsung. If I had to do it again, I totally would buy another LG. Unless if Speed Queen was offering another full 10 year parts and labor warranty, then I could see myself paying extra for a SQ. Even if it doesn't have a heater which I would have no problem with. Honestly, I couldn't find a cleaning difference between having a heater on versus not having a heater on. That's why I don't use the heater on our LG anymore, plus it's another part that can break on a machine anyways. And as far as other LG and Samsung products, I honestly like them as well. I think they made some nice vacuum cleaners, electronics, monitors, etc. Probably the only product I would be cautious to buy for myself would be an LG dishwasher. My aunt just bought one a year or so ago for her new house and she said that it doesn't wash as good as her Maytag from her old house.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Remember the Samsung Eco Bubble? WTH was that all about?

I honestly don't know about the latest Whirlpool or Maytag FL washers. I've seen the wash cycles on youtube vs LG and the LG with turbo wash seems SOOO MUCH better with my eyes...Not only the recirculation but it just looks like they use more water.. I know the whirlpools/maytags have recirculation too...

it's so crazy... I remember complaining when I first got my duet in 2005 because I couldn't believe how little water it used... and in comparison with the ones on the market now, my duet is like a freaking swimming pool.

 

[ozzie908]

How odd nobody has commented on

The age of my old Whirlpool? Is it because its not US made?

 

[DADoES]

 
The console/controls design reflects the early/original Duet.  The rotary cycle knob is like that of the KitchenAid Ensemble and Maytag Epic ... so presumably mid-2000s but the market timeframe may be a bit different in the UK.

 

[combo52]

German Built full size whirlpool washer

Neat to see that they sold those there. They were good washers. They sold a ton of them here in the USA

It was built sometime from the mid 90s to the early 2000s I can’t decipher the serial number.

I have the KitchenAid pro line version of that machine. The only thing I don’t like about it is the tangling due to the silly slanted tub.

It could probably last a long time yet though.

John

 

[foraloysius]

Austin,

That Whirlpool Dreamspace was built for the European market, perhaps even only for the UK. Specifications were different than the models for the North American market. The capacity was a bit smaller IIRC and the spin speed a bit higher. Just like the early American Duet models, these machines were made in the Bauknecht factory in Germany. There was a matching dryer available for a while, but that had to be imported from the USA and therefor an expensive product.

 

[logixx]

Austin

If I can decipher the serial number correctly, your washer was made in 2003, week 43.

 

[combo52]

Whirl, pool, front load washer from Germany

That date of 2003 sounds about right.

Austin measure the depth and diameter of the tub and I can compare it to the US models. I highly doubt that they made a smaller capacity version of that machine. It just would’ve been cost-effective and there would be no reason to make a 27 inch wide machine smaller capacity anyway.

But you could be right Louis you usually are.

John.

 

[foraloysius]

John,

Don't forget that a different capacity rating doesn't have to mean a different sized drum. It's just a rating in another country. A different standard may apply here.

BTW, what was the spin speed on the first North American models, I forgot. Was it 1100 or 1200 rpm? This one has 1400rpm, just as the similar Bauknecht model in Germany. Germany may have had this Whirlpool model too in it's line up.

 

[logixx]

The earlier versions of this Whirlpool washer had a drum of 80 liters and were sold as an 8kg machine. Mine is the later version with a larger drum of 93 liters (miraculously the capacity increased to 11kg) and the spin wash lowered from 1400 to 1200 rmp.

That's how it was in Europe.

 

[foraloysius]

Thanks Alexander

 

[combo52]

German whirlpool washer

I’m talking about drum size I know they make different claims for the same size drums. We’ve been doing that for years in the US but my point is the drums are going to be the same size.

And so the usable capacity would actually be the same.

In the US we had final spin RPM of 1100 to 1300 they played around with that a little bit depending on the model.

John

 

[joe_in_philly]

Hettie

I still have my HE3t. I do love the option of being able to have it start with cool or warm water and heat it to hot (121°F, 127°F, or 153°F-depending on cycle).
If it makes it to June, it will be 20 years old and I’ll need to post about it in the Imperial forum!
Joe

 

[bradfordwhite]

#36 FL that started it all for me.

A friend had one similar in 2007 and that introduced me, and sold me on FL washers. I ditched my Kenmore TL from 2000 amd bought a new WP 9200.

 

[ozzie908]

@combo52

Hi Joihn

As best as I was able to ascertain it measures 14.5 inches from the back to the front rim and 66 inches around the inside of the drum.

I am surprised to learn its nearly 20 years old its doing well and with my 32 year old Huesbch gas dryer they make a wonderful vintage couple both of whom have had very little done to them.

Austin