Samsung StormWash dishwasher

[yogitunes]

while watching PDub's video of the EcoBubble, I came across this video of Samsung's StormWash dishwasher....

it seems to have good and bad about it, I like the two power discs in the bottom, but only in the two areas of the back.....I wonder if it would do better with 4 of them, and NO center washarm, they may have to be a little bigger, but seem like it would give better coverage, and you could place pots and items anywhere, not just a certain ZONE......

I really like the silverware rack.....

thoughts/opinions?

 

[suds]

Hey Martin

Fun link! I like those pot scrubber zones, wouldn't mind testing them out, I wonder if the water is alternated between the main wash arm and these pot scrubber as to improve the pressure?

I only occasionally place saucepans in my dishwasher as they normally need manual intervention anyhow, but if I have only one I place it in the centre of the bottom rack where it receives constant spray and does a better job than anywhere else in the rack. Having 4 of those as opposed to the traditional wash arm where they are used one at a time for a good hard spray whilst the water is soaking the others whilst not receiving spray sounds like a very effective idea.

I have often thought four smaller spray arms would give better coverage than one, the slimline Siemens dishwashers (45cm wide) have done this for their upper racks now.

 

[logixx]

Neat cutlery drawer!

 

[mrb627]

Credit

You have to give credit to Samsung for trying new things.

I like this better than the stationary spray zone in the whirlpool family.

Malcolm

 

[foraloysius]

Four smaller spray arms...

... is something that already has been done by Constructa in the sixties!

 

[combo52]

Samsung Storm Wash DW

Those extra wash areas would be as useless as GEs Silver Shower was on their 1960s DWs, it is washing an area that is already being washed, it would make absolutely NO difference unless of coerce it was doing a poor job every where else, LOL.

 

Those top racks for the silverware I find useless unless you do not ever let your SW touch each other even in the drawer when stored. 

I cannot not imagine having the time or being so anal that I would load ONE spoon at a time and sort and line them all up , LOL.

 

Cool Video though.

 

[mrb627]

Full pressure

I thought the twin storm heads were independent at a higher pressure then the lower wash arm.

I like the cutlery shelf in my Miele dishwasher. Takes a little more time to load by unloading takes two seconds and you don't have to touch the business end of any item while doing it.

Malcolm

 

[william637]

Dedicated Silverware Rack - and obersvation about the storm

My husband as a Miele dishwasher in his guest house (bought it as a present for me to play with). I love the third rack for silverware. Despite what you might think, it is not time consuming to load at all. And, you never have to worry about forks and spoons nesting. The Miele has a deciated full size wash arm for that rack. I didn't notice that on the Samsung. If if doesn't have the dedicated wash arm, I would question the results you might get. Kitchenaid dishwashers also have that third rack on some of their models. They just have the small spinner rinse assembly on the top so I just took that rack to be more a gimmick than anything else.

That video showed the storm wash dics operating singulary without the main spray arm, and then singularly with the main spray arm. I am wondering what happens when the spray arm has stopped and is blocking the flow of the storm wash? My guess is a spary arm with a really clean underside.

 

[frigilux]

Man, Samsung is really making an effort to pull an LG: Swoop in seemingly out of nowhere to grab a larger share of the American market. Many new, highly-rated products; saturation advertising; expansion of dealers/retailers. The local Frigidaire/Maytag dealer is currently being courted by a Samsung rep. He's resisting, so far, claiming he wants to stick with US companies. He's choosing to overlook Electrolux, apparently. He's been selling Frigidaire for decades and probably still sees it as the offshoot of an American company.

Back to the dishwasher: The cutlery rack may have a downward-spraying arm built into the top of the tub, as does my LG. I really like using the cutlery rack as it opens up real estate in the bottom rack. It isn't as fussy to load as you might think; after all, you put all the other items in the machine one-at-a-time, right? You save time at the end of the cycle when you can grab a handful of forks or spoons and drop them into your silverware drawer.

John, I now have a very comical mental picture of you opening your dishwasher, dumping an armload of dishes into each rack, muttering "Screw it!" and pressing start, LOL.[this post was last edited: 1/27/2013-09:21]

 

[suds]

Mark.....

Lol...re : spray arm with a really clean underside! That is however a very good question. I wish dishwashers had glass doors so one could see into them. I love the glass box demo washers at the appliance stores - how many times can on press the demo/run button before being chased out !?

I could never go back to a traditional cutlery basket - all that cutlery touching all over the place *shudders*

B

 

[combo52]

Loading DWs

Eugene sorry to ruin your image of me loading DWs, but I am a very careful and good loader of DWs, people are often amazed at how much I get in a DW and are also amazed how clean everything comes out.

 

BUT I draw the line loading ONE spoon at a time, LOL, maybe if you have really good sterling silver where you never let it touch other pieces it could be useful [ you can also get regular SW baskets that allow you to load one piece at a time ] and they are in the lower rack where they get much better pressure. But I guess that I am really spoiled with my WP DWs with the basket in the door, IMEO this is absolutely the best design ever in any home DW ever built for fast loading and keeping them out of the way so the maximum dishes can be loaded in both racks. I even hate loading SW in my KDSS-20 because you can only put a few in the holder at a time, with the WP you can easily load 10 pieces at a time.

 

Life is too short to load one piece at a time and as for the worry of touching a spoon with your fingers, get over it and wash your hands LOL.

 

[chris74]

Nice idea!

I think this is a better solution than placing things slanting towards the back wall like in my Bauknecht (Whirlpool) dishwasher. AFAIK, Samsung does not sell any dishwashers here in Germany.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

There's nothing new here though.

We have seen Candy Machines with pot scrubber discs (on Hoovers), and the 3rd drawer for cutlery (and small cups) has been around on Miele's for some time, with Bosch/Siemens also using it. Seems that When one manufacturer does something, the rest copy.
Plus it looks very similar to a Bosch/Siemens internally and externally, again with some copy of Hoovers too.

It was the same with washers really, as soon as Siemens launched ASR Miele Copied, and as soon as Bosch launched the Superquick 15', others copied trying to beat it by being faster.
I think brands such as Hoover, Candy, Siemens, should put a copyright on there designs, otherwise everything will look and work the same, just not as reliable in the not to distant future.
Bet Whirlpool will launch Blue and green washers next, and others will copy.

 

[foraloysius]

Brendon

Your wish is my command, Constructa must have thought in the sixties! lol

Click on the link and scroll down to the second and the third picture. You will see a Constructa dishwashers with a window in the door and four spray arms at the bottom!

Your favorite vintage Dishwasher

I'll get this started with the built like a tank/blow the pattern off the dishes wash action Hobart AM-9-T2

www.automaticwasher.org

 

[washer111]

The Laws of Innovation:

If you are an innovator (Fisher and Paykel, Apple, KitchenAid etc.) then this is what happens:

 

When another company cannot innovate, they copy. When they cannot copy, they steal and claim it as their own (Apple creates 1st GUI interface on computers, Microsoft copy it, making Windows, the terrible excuse for an operating system).

 

Companies need to patent their ideas, then rule with an iron fist. That way, they can keep their business and advertise the benefits of their products, and other manufacturers can only try to keep up. Thats how it should be, and is why Samsung is in court with Apple - because in essence, you can really see how Samsung has copied Apple's products. Heck, even the transitions between pages on the screens are the same, as are the icons.

 

And if it weren't already obvious, Samsung seem to like making high-tech gadgets that sing and are really kind of useless. This is another of their "gadgets," a toy, if you will. Their phones are slow and lethargic (from my personal experience), their washers are cheap and do more singing and dinging than washing, and their dishwashers are obviously just filled with gimmicks that probably don't work all that well. 

I've noticed many machines from Europe/UK that are all the same: Siemens, Zanussi, Hoover etc all seem to just rip each other off, or are just badge-engineering their products.

 

[combo52]

Oh Yes The Laws of Innovation

Some interesting points [ what ever your name is ] but if a company is going to patent something they should have something worth patenting. The Storm Wash system in Samsung's new DWs with extra arms washing exactly the same area is close to the most worthless gimmick I have ever seen. I have never seen any DW that could not wash items in the lower rack where the majority of the water force is in ANY DW, and to have two arms running at the same area at the same time makes absolutely no sense. Yes WPs Turbo Zone is sort of silly but it is at least washing a flat casserole that is standing upright to save lower rack space.

 

As I had mentioned before GE tried this dual wash arm system back in the 1960s and even they decided that it was so worthless that the last of the DWs that GE built with the extra Silver Shower Arm were manufactured with the SS arm not even connected to water and on earlier models they had us service technicians disconnect the SS because it did no good at all and it reduced the overall performance of the DW.

 

[petek]

I was just gonna say the same thing as Jon above about the jets on the WP allowing things like lasagna pans to sit almost vertically against the backwall of the dishwasher. With this samsung version you'd be covering half of the bottom rack. I've found it actually does work a little better on my baking pans etc getting off more of that sticky PAM residue.

 

[DADoES]

 
Non-stick spray does leave a nasty residue on overspray areas that don't contact the food.  I've been baking a lot of seasoned chicken breasts lately, 9"x13" or 11"x14" glass dishes, 375°F for 35 to 40 mins.  First couple times I used non-stick spray, then had to deal with scrubbing the "glue" residue.  I quit the non-stick spray and the dishes come out pristine.  YMMV.

 

[chris74]

One simply cannot...

...invent the wheel for new.