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I didn't claim Miele was the first. But I just can't take it if someone equals Miele to anything, especially on DWs. Miele is not like anything else. That dosen't mean they are always better. They are just a class themselves.
And if it's about the first who ever made a DW, everything would be a knock off.
 
While Josephine Cochran's invention was indeed very innovative, it's nothing remotely like a modern dishwasher in design.

The Crescent Company produced the first practical dishwashers, and they actually seem to have used spray arm albeit a quite different configuration to a modern dishwasher.

KitchenAid introduced domestic dishwashers in 1949, Miele introduced them in 1929.

In terms of who's inspired by who's styling....

Miele Dishwasher from 1975: - looks rather similar to a Miele or KitchenAid from much more recently in many respects in terms of styling and design.



KitchenAid in 1975:

 
I'd just add btw : I'm not dissing KitchenAid, they make / made great stuff, but I think its a bit ridiculous to accuse Miele (one of the only remaining seriously high end appliance makers on the planet) of being a rip off of anything!

My only reason for bringing it up, is that I would have liked to see Samsung's Waterwall pitched against a very high end dishwasher like Miele.

I'm fairly convinced that it's just a design gimmick. Their EcoBubble washing machine technology (in my own personal experience of it) doesn't really seem to do anything other than make a bit of a noise. The machine's not bad, but it's nothing special.
 
I wouldn't have anything from Samsung if you paid me to take it. I have heard horror stories and they're causin havoc in the appliance industry s reputalation with front load washers. Customers are pissed because their service sucks and is giving front load washers a bad reputation. The salespeople here at Sears and Home Depot refuse, to sell them spinning customers to LG or Whirlpool machines.
 
LG

Is just as bad as Samsung, if not worse in my opinion. Wouldn't have either. I only recommend Whirlpool if budget won't allow something better.

Malcolm
 
Samsung's fridges are actually quite good though, at least on this side of the atlantic anyway.

Washing machines require quite a bit of mechanical engineering as you're dealing with pretty extreme forces when they spin dry. If you get the design even slightly off, there's a MAJOR problem.
 
Well...

I thought the same, and our Bauknecht washer as well as the dryer we have from Bauknecht (WA SuperEco 6414 & TK SuperEco 72 A++) surprised me in terms of quality. Of course, 950€ for both including shipping and 4 year warranty on the washer is not that much and the quality isn't the best, but still, I would say by the feel, they are on one level with BSH in the same price range (so 400€ retail price for the washer and 600€ for the dryer)(we got a discount on both).
 
First dishwasher with a centre wash tube

The UK manufactured Colston sink top dishwasher, was first introduced 18th November 1958. It was very small, used a huge amount of electricity to power its circulation pump, and needed a hot water supply, and drained into the sink. I owned one for about 3 years, but got rid of it, as it took as much time to clean the filters, as it would to hand wash the dishes. The detergents available at the time, were not very efficient either.

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First dishwasher with a centre wash tube

The UK manufactured Colston sink top dishwasher, was first introduced 18th November 1958. It was very small, used a huge amount of electricity to power its circulation pump, and needed a hot water supply, and drained into the sink. I owned one for about 3 years, but got rid of it, as it took as much time to clean the filters, as it would to hand wash the dishes. The detergents available at the time, were not very efficient either.

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Kitchenaid Dishwashers

Are still one of the best DWs made and are a very high quality product, that is easy to service and install.

They are consistently among the top rated machines in terms of performance and quiet operation.

Consumer Reports subjected ALL the DWs in their testing [ including Meile ] to the same tests as the Samsung water-wall DW and only the SS had any serious problem.

Samsung refrigerators are flimsy junk, you will be lucky if their Ice Makers work for even a few years. They may look ok compared to refs in some parts of the world but they do not come close to the sturdiness and quality of WP built, GE, and even North American Frigidaire refrigerators.
 
We have a brand new Samsung refrigerator, and it's the biggest pile of $1100 junk I've seen in my life. The icemaker - just as combo52 said - is an absolute joke. Oh, you wanted crushed ice? Too bad, today it feels like cubed. And tomorrow it may be the opposite. And at least once a week I have to take the entire ice caddy out of the door and use a butter knife to break the frozen "snow" from the inside of the grind chamber and from the chute, or it will get the the point of not dropping out ice at all.

The shelving system is also terrible. You only have 2-3 configurations to use because the shelves are all different sizes, not to mention there are only a few support rails to actually mount them on. That said, you either have a bunch of small spaces for short items but none tall enough for a milk jug or tea pitcher, or you have way too much head room for taller items, which turns into wasted space that could have been used for small things.

One more annoyance is that the filter indicator has no function at all. It is blue whenever the ice or water dispensers are being used, and after about 5 months it is supposed to turn purple, and then at 6 months, red. We were on month 9 before I finally said screw it and replaced the filter, and marked the date on it with a Sharpie.

My job was to research and select the appliances, but my boyfriend asked if he could pick the refrigerator, so I said okay. I gave him full notice that I was wary of LG and Samsung because of how new they are to the appliance market, but it seemed like a pretty decent machine at the time. He liked that the LED lights fade in when the door is opened; a feature that I don't even notice anymore. I now regret letting him get it and not steering him to the WP/Maytag. Hell even a GE would have been leaps and bounds better than this thing.
 

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