Servis W814W washing machine

[aegokocarat]

Hello all,
recently I became an owner of one of the new servis machines. My machine is a W814w (non hydrodrive), it has a massive 8kg drum and it has a 1400 spin. I love the machine all round, it looks nice, the results are fantastic and it isn't too frightened to have a water level and according to local engineers these vestel made machines have split tubs meaning bearing change is possible. The cycles for cottons are pretty lengthy but it gives brilliant results and the synthetic cycles are relatively quick (I est. 1:30 for a 40*c synthetic wash), the machines quick wash is brilliant at refreshing garments and it is one of the only quick washes that I have used the leaves the clothes smelling fresh.
Conclusion: its a fantastic washing machine with a huge drum, it washes to a near enough miele standard which is impressive.
Tom

 

[aegokocarat]

The option buttons aren't 100% self explanatory but Ive eventually memorised what they are for.

 

[aegokocarat]

The cycles

 

[aegokocarat]

Main wash on cottons 60*c with prewash

 

[aegokocarat]

The detergent drawer

 

[aquacycle]

Hi Tom,

Thank you for sharing. I believe you're one of, if not the first AW member to own one of these. Very intrigued to hear more. Any chance of some videos in the near future?

Thanks,
Chris

 

[aegokocarat]

Hi Chris,
it also does power stream washing, yes, I have some videos of it on my channel, the rinses are long so even if it rinses with a low water level, it gets excess detergent out well.
Tom.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTNZZR3NKpk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUNHBa4XYwpPTwEd3258LBeQ

 

[aquacycle]

Hi Tom,

Thanks for sharing, but the link isn't working?

 

[aegokocarat]

None of my links will work now, type into youtube servis prog.7 synthetics/delecates 40

 

[foraloysius]

Interesting looking machine. I like the temperature controls that has settings between 60 and 95 degrees. And what a big door!

This should be working.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTNZZR3NKpk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUNHBa4XYwpPTwEd3258LBeQ

 

[foraloysius]

The link was with http and https in one link. It seems to happen here more often if you post that in the URL link to share box. Just post a link in the text, the video will be embedded automatically.

 

[aegokocarat]

Thanks Foraloysius
the door opening is brilliant, the temperature selection is brilliant too
Tom

 

[aegokocarat]

Its been in for nearly a week and so far its been fantastic
The eco 40*c wash takes forever but it uses a lot of water and it produced results as good as the samsung and the miele.
Tom

 

[foraloysius]

Interesting that an eco cycle uses a lot of water!

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Yes it is. How come the Miele's for example be programmed for high level rinses yet still be graded A rated? Unless they are marked on A rated for low level water use on wash so the heater doesn't have as much water to heat?

 

[haxisfan]

"Interesting that an eco cycle uses a lot of water"

I thought so 2... perhaps they don't account for water usage when assigning a score/letter for the energy label. My Hoover Dynamic uses bucket loads of water on almost every cycle and it's rated A+++ for energy use. The only way to make it use less water is to set it on the 14 minute cycle or put it on a standard cycle with only a few items in! But that would defeat the object of using less water as 1'd have to do more loads to get everthing washed

 

[aegokocarat]

With reguard to water levels, if you select extra rinse it adds a little more water to some of the cycles. The machine is still impressing us and I highly recomend these machines, they look nice imo and dont look cheapy like the AM made machines.
Tom

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Tom.

Congrats on the new purchase.
As has been said by the others, it will be interesting to hear how your opinions of the machine develops, being one of the early owners of this new generation of Servis.

Paul

 

[aegokocarat]

Hey Paul,
So far its been brilliant, but time will tell. The only thing I would change if I could are the symbols for the options as they are a little confusing but there are only 3 main options I use anyway lol
Tom

 

[paulc]

Energy ratings

Machines energy ratings are based on the standard 60deg cotton wash and is the programme that uses the least water usually.

 

[donprohel]

Energy rating?

As far as I know washing machines (and dishwashers) are rated using a cycle specified by the manufacturer.

Usually this cycle is well hidden and no one ever uses it :-/

Am I wrong?

 

[haxisfan]

Clear as mud...

Paulc... I always thought exactly that, but I'm starting to doubt it since my latest machine uses potentially more water on the 'Cotton 60' cycle... especially when washing darks/bright coloureds. When I wash a load of whites/lights it uses less water but nowhere near the water consumption declared my the manufacturer (and still much more than my older machine).

Donprohel, if it was as you said, then they could base the machine's water consumption even on a partial cycle (rinse only, quick 15, etc) and that would just be out of order!

The only rational conclusion I can come to is that water consumption is not accounted for when assigning energy ratings. I'm saying this based on my experience with one machine only (Hoover Dynamic)... you never know, it might even be faulty

 

[paulc]

Energy efficiency of washing machines in the EU is calculated on the 60 deg cotton programme and the 40deg cotton programme. I'm not sure what cycle is used to calculate dishwasher efficiency. Here is an older article from Which? magazine.

http://www.which.co.uk/energy/savin...bels-explained/washing-machine-energy-labels/

 

[haxisfan]

@paulc

Thanks for the link. I swift-read it and there seem to be no mention of water consumption. I can well believe the new Hoover is A+++ rated... owing to a miserable 1500w heater to wash an 8kg load :-&#92

 

[paulc]

Haxisfan

The energy rating is based on how much electricity is used to wash 6kg at 40deg and 60deg as far as I can tell. I presume your washer is a large capacity machine and therefore would use more water when washing a full load. Possibly an more accurate test for water consumption would be how much water is used per KG of laundry.

 

[paulc]

Haxisfan

We appear to have crossed posts there!

 

[haxisfan]

Post crossing...

Paulc... yeah... probably you didn't expect me to get back to you so quickly... I had dinner waiting and I was starving

Aegokocarat, what is the water consumption per cycle declared my the manufacturer for this model? Maybe you shall measure it yourself and be in for a shock ;-)

 

[aegokocarat]

Right, Ive had the machine for a while now and I can form a proper opinion on it.
The machines cotton cycles aren't ridiculously long, the boil wash seems to take 2:55 minutes, the synthetic cycles are short and have high water levels and wash equally as good as the cotton cycles, the 40*c delicate/synthetic wash takes 1:44 minutes with an extra rinse. The quick wash is very good at refreshing garments and it is one of 2 quick washes that I have used that leave the load smelling good at the end. Overall I think that this machine and vestel machines in general are very good for the money.
Tom

 

[chris74]

AFAIK

They don't calculate water consumption for energy ratings... Shame on them.

 

[hoovermatic]

Cycle times are getting absurd

I was in John Lewis Outlet looking at washing machines (surprise, surprise) and in particular the John Lewis machines. As it is an outlet store the selection changes rapidly and can be very random and for the first time I saw an 8kg John Lewis model. I was gobsmacked to read that the 60 degree cycle takes 220 minutes!!!!! Is there REALLY any need??