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Lost my Dad 2004, prostate with bone mets, then scans were positive on his adrenal glands. He suffered terribly with "tumor fever", often not remembering weeks at a time. My back was to the wall, poor guy didnt want the chemo, in the end we opted to continue the chemo, he had underwent radiation therapy when he was first diagnosed. The chemo was all that would touch his fevers.. at least i know in my heart he is not suffering anymore, but i sure miss him. alr2903
 
Well click my heals three times for I am one step ahead of WHOOOPIE!
Come here Toto let me give you a hug to let you know how much I love, me, myself and I!
Darling we can live a long time as long as we do what is recommended by learning from the doctors of what can be done before it is to late!
Now get on your paws and Run........! Run..........!
And tell every man do a PSA test when they reach the ripe ole age of 40..........
 
My doctor doesn't do the PSA test, he relies on digital and colonoscopy (which I've had).

My understanding is that the PSA test has so many false positives that it is of limited value. But, my information is old (about 10 to 20 years old).
 
Needless to say, Whoopi doesn't do airplanes either. I have heard that she likes Amtrak or she hires a limo to take her long distances.
She certainly is a funny one, I just love all of her movies.

I get a PSA every year along with the "digital". I tried the colonoscopy once and experienced a bad reaction during the procedure. The doctor refused any medications for it and told me to just "take it like a man". Once the procedure started, which was not comfortable at all, my Blood pressure started to increase dramatically. The further he went in, the higher the BP became. At the halfway point, my BP hit 220/120. So he dicontinued the test and told me to see my general practitioner for advice. About 1/2 after the test was done, by BP was back down to it's usual 120/70.
The GP told me to try it again and see what happens and if I'm lucky I won't stroke out.
 
Prostate cancer is insidious

I lost my dad to this evil disease 6 years ago and it was only detected quite by accident,and when it was,it was too late to stop it.
Dad had just retired from his working life,and was going to do the usual thing a lot of retirees do down here that is buy a campervan and go all around Australia with his wonderful lady friend.
He went to hid family doctor 2 weeks after retiring,in 1995, for a general checkup and the doctor noted that dad had not been checked for prostate cancer so the usual checks were done and it came back that he did indeed have the dreaded disease and it had already spread to his bones and was at the metastatic(I think the correct word is)and he may have 5-10 years left.
Well the advice was pretty spot on dad lasted just after 5 years battling it,and his last week or so was the most heartbreaking and scary thing I have ever endured and when he finally died I felt a strange sort of relief and sadness at the same time.
Sorry folks about the long post but sometimes it just helps putting how one feels in written words instead of just talking.
Steve.
 
OVER 40? GET TESTED!!

I couldn't agree more with the advice that everyone has posted. At age 40, I found myself having some intestinal discomfort. Talked to the doctor and it was agreed that since I had a history of cancer in my family, especially colorectal, that I would go for a colonoscopy. Glad I did. Three pre-cancerous polyps. This disease can be prevented.
The same with prostate cancer.

This past winter I was also experiencing some problems, blood in urine, burning sensation. Talked to my doctor. Had the PSA test. Luckily, it turned out to be a minor urinary tract infection. The PSA test whether digital or blood work is not bad. It certainly beats the alternative.

Since my experience with the polyps, I have been a huge advocate for the test. It saved my life. Yes, the prep beforehand is no picnic, but the test itself is over in a matter of minutes and really is not uncomfortable at all.

NOTE TO WHIRLCOOL: Find another doctor. Any doctor that would administer a colonscopy without drugs should be reported to the Board of Health!!

Guys, take my advice -- if you're over 40, then get tested. It could save your life!!!

Ron
 
Steve, I hope your dad is doing well. I wish him well. My dad had colon cancer in his 50's. He had a large section removed and was re-connected. He was able to lead a normal life. He did go for yearly or bi-yearly check ups. He was an auto mechanic, worked for General Motors and had a shop and repaired cars. After he retired he was under a car doing repairs and started coughing up blood. He was rushed to the hospital, and they found that he had a lesion on his left lung. We were never sure if it was from the colon cancer from years ago, or from smoking. (He was a heavy smoker for 55 years). To make matters even worse, the cancer spread to his brain. However, the cancer in the brain was operable. He did have his left lung removed, and in a couple of months he was to have the surgery on his brain, but never made it. He developed a blood clot on his right lung (pulmonary embolism). This is what killed him. He had his lung removed in December 1992. My dad was a big guy just like me, just a little taller. He was much stronger from all of the hard work being a mechanic. It was so sad to see him when he came to our
house on Christmas day, gasping his breath just climbing the five steps into the living room. (He only had one lung at this time). Everything started to go bad in January 1993. To make a long story short, he was in the hospital when Matthew, my son was christened. When I visited him the next day, he told me he was going to die. He told me to be a good dad and told me to take good care of my family. He passed on two days after Matthew's christening. That was a week in my life that I will never forget.

I know this thread is about prostate cancer, however IT IS VERY IMPORTANT for men to get their prostate checked and also have a COLONOSCOPY.

WELL....Sorry for rambling on so much.

Ray
 
Testing for cancer

My Father in law was diagnosed with advanced stage 4A pancreatic cancer just before fathers day. He had been having stomach pains for about a year and would not go to the doctors. When he did per the docs "ah it's just stress/nervous stomach". May'2006 he started having severe stomach pains. CT scan revealed an large orange size tumor on the pancreas with mets on his stomach. If he had pushed the doctors for more tests in the beginning they could have found it sooner. Instead at 67 he has been given pretty much 4 months to live. The docs contribute it to his 3 to 4 pack a day of smoking for about 40 years.

Bottom line when in doubt PUSH YOUR DOCTORS FOR TEST even when they don't think you need them.
 
non-invasive Prostate exam

How do I find a doctor that can do that? I'm 35 and I guess I should get on this bandwagon early in life before something decides to happen. But I'm not too thrilled about having some guy shove a finger up my ass (no comments from the peanut gallery). Besides I'll probably be terrified (as I am of doctors/hospitals/dentists) so he'd have a hard time doing the test. Looks like that ultrasound thingy sounds alot better.
 
Tunnels

I heard about one of the Boston tunnels closing. That's sad but I remember going through them last year and thinking "How cool is that! One tunnel right after another". I loved tunnels and old bridges.
 
Guys, at almost 52, I've had my share of digital checks done already. Like a lot of guys who post here, that doesn't bother me ;-). And my doc really stays in there a while compared to others who have performed this same check! No history of cancer in my family but the doc says that doesn't mean anything.

But recently I had a scare. One Monday there was blood in my urine, it appeared at the end of the stream, and of course I went to the doc right away. He found no trouble and said it was probably a broken vessel and to keep an eye on things. Well, it cleared up by the next day, but when I thought about it, I remembered that the previous weekend was a rather busy one for my partner and I, and I'm pretty sure what happened is that I took a Cialis at the beginning of the weekend and then gave it a "little" boost with 25mg of viagra on Sunday. I'm pretty sure the viagra boost is responsible, considering what this type of medication does to your erectile system, and I ended up with too much of a good thing, although it was still working "on demand" and not providing a constant "effect" if you get my drift, so there was no indication I had over-medicated. I only use the stuff as insurance anyway, and I have never since done this "boost" type of medicating as was suggested to me by someone else who takes both of these types of drugs. If anything, it proved to me that I don't need this stuff that much. Maybe it's just a quirk in my own system, but thought I'd share my experience.

So any of you guys who use E.D. drugs recreationally, moderation is key. Don't over do it, take as small a dose as will provide the desired result. Otherwise you might have the same thing happen that I did and give yourself a false alarm. At my age, you start thinking about worst case scenarios first.

And I checked with my friend that I mentioned further up. His doc is calling him back in due to the figures on the PSA in his bloodwork. I hope this is a case of a false reading as people further up have mentioned is not unusual with PSA's.
 
Whirlcool

How long ago was that bad colonoscopy experience? I'm terribly sorry someone in the medical profession treated you that way. Of course your BP went up, you were in PAIN! Yes it would be quite uncomfortable awake! I don't know how things are in TX, but I think it's highly unusual for a doctor to not offer sedation for colonoscopy. Here it's a matter of course. You take a nice little nap, and when you wake up it's all done. Over the years I've had a couple of patients refuse the sedation, but they usually change their mind after we get started. Only 1 person I have seen withstand the procedure quite well without any drugs, and he put himself into some sort of deep self hypnosis like state. If you lived here in South FL I'd hook you up with a good Doc & we'd take good care of you at our little outpatient center. Don't be afraid to try it again. Find a different doctor & tell him/her about your prior bad experience & ask about the sedation at the office, BEFORE you even make the appointment for the colonoscopy. HTH.
Virginia
 
I've only had one colonoscopy and it was a breeze. The doctor was very cool and kept checking with me to see that I was comfortable. I don't recall any sedation or medication. I guess since I'm a gay man, I knew how to receive the probe OK. The only thing the doc said would be uncomfortable was when he had to "inflate" the intestinal walls, which would be similar to gas pains. He was overly cautious about checking with me whenever he had to do that, and the discomfort was minimal. For sure the inflating part was more uncomfortable than having the equipment go up me. I think it's all about relaxation, and if you're not used to having anything up there, then the doc needs to provide the proper medication so you'll be relaxed for the procedure. Sounds like that doc who said to take it like a man might be into B&D and can't separate business from pleasure or whatever. I'd go to another guy next time you need to get one done, whirlcool, as they really aren't that bad even for guys who don't have two-way traffic happening.
 
Prostate

PSA test can not only have false positives, but also false negatives, so it's better to have your prostate examined.

I already have prostate problems for several years, but no cancer. I get Proscar 5mg (finasteride) for the symptoms. My prostate is chronically irritated due to the use of ibuprofen for a longer period. Ibuprofen can have negative effects on the prostate, but there is not much literature on that yet.

The university hospital overhere in Groningen is specialized in prostate cancer. Recent research has shown that 30% of the men suffering from prostate cancer have a very mild form that doesn't have to be treated. Still it is good to have it monitored. But there are other much more agressive forms as well. Prostate cancer became a lot of attention here because a famous Dutch singer had prostate cancer at a young age. He had his prostate removed in France, it seems that a hospital in southern France is specialized in that operation.

If you want to be kind for your prostate there are a few things that you can do.

- drink lots of water;
- don't eat spicey foods;
- at least three times sex per week.

Louis
 
whirlcool

THAT is part of the reason why I'm EXTREMELY phobic about Drs and Dentists. I've had bad experiences with both and I've been held down for shots and treated condescendinly by an abusive dentist over and over. I will definitely have to take Valium or something because my BP will go up and being nervous and tense, good luck getting anything up this str8 guy's butt.
 
Jason you're not alone. My partner needs to be sedated for MRI's and those aren't even invasive! Why is it that only dentists use laughing gas? That stuff makes every situation just fine & dandy.

Louis, thanks for the info. I take ibuprofen maybe a time or two a week and am hoping that's OK but considering I've had prostate issues in the past, I'm going to start keeping track of my ibuprofen intake.
 
Luigi, where did you get this advice?

I drink lots of water.
I don't eat spicy food.
Is two out of three good enough? Or is my prostrate going to self-destruct?

Boom.

veg
 

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