So...I wonder if the 12 minute rapid cycle on the Russell hobbs can wash the egg off their faces?

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CLEARLY NOT! Daily Mail follows up the washing machine that boasted of a 12 minute cycle, and the novelty wears off...

The lady who tried it has a lot of bother for the sake of a 12 minute wash. And the grubby stains like ketchup and mud do not shift (as it is a rapid freshen up cycle, not a stain remover one). It also has a design fault, as the time display seems to stick, clearly if you want a decent electronic controlled washer (like I do) I'd go for a good Bosch or Miele, which also have great wash programmes and times, as well as good energy.

Thankfully the readers are talking more sense in their comments too!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1371713/The-12-minute-washing-machine-It-took-days.html
 
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I only just discovered the article despite it being over a month old, but it wasn't brought up in the previous thread. Clearly a super-hype, I'll just stick to my normal 40 degree programme which takes around 1hr 30 mins.
 
How stupid....

Dunno why anyone would expect to shift those stains in 12 (or 16) minutes anyway.

People seem too obsessed with getting the most amount of washing washed in the quickest time possible & spun at the fastest speed.

These superfast washes should be advertised as conveinience cycles for freshening up the odd item, not as a replacement for a proper 1-2 hour 40c cycle.

If you decide you wanna wear a ketchup-stained shirt on a night out only half an hour before youre due to leave the house, you gotta resign yourself to the fact that youre either gonna have to pick another shirt or arrive late.

Liam
 
Pierre...

Do you think a 12 min wash (that's full cycle length from start to finish, not just the main wash time) in cold water will clean equally as well as a long, thorough boil wash with the water heated from cold?

 

If so, I assume you wear no white or light coloured clothes, and never get them dirty in any way? That's the only way that that could work at all!

 

Things today seem to go from one extreme to another; years ago no one complained that an hour long cottons wash was too long, yet now that cottons washes take around 2 hours, suddenly everyone wants their clothes washed in 12 mins, it makes no sense at all!

 

Matt

 

 
 
This article is more than horrible!

1st thing I noticed is that woman is being unsattisfied because machine washed way too long (16 minutes!!!!!!!!) OMG - are those people nuts?

2nd there is a desperate need for a fight against articles like these - they're manipulation of people's minds!! I even see how they changed my (however I can control myself, and I'm using very high temps 40-60 darks/brights, and 90 whites, unlike those people out there!) -> When I first heard about washing whites at 40, I was disgusted, however now after so much seeing not just washing at 30 or cold, but those temps on quick or VERY quick washes, standard cotton 40 doesn't look that disgusting anymore... :/

btw.
Was that women putting FAIRY GEL in the draw? omg...

Dex
 
Pierre.

You said: "the longer the wash time the more energy thats wasted", along with: " a cold wash versu a warm or hot water wash makes no change in cleaning power of the detergent." "water "a 12 minute wash saves energy as well."

you have absolute no clue to what your talking about!
 
no offence taken pierreandreply4

A rapid cycle is good if you've forgotten to wash something to be used the next day, and even in that case, you need at least a good 30 minutes for a lightly soiled shirt, perhaps a shirt and jeans together, two items. The articles seem to imply that a 7kg load can be done in 12 mins, something the lady discovered to be wrong in the article.

I agree with everyone, wash times shouldn't be an issue. I'd be happy to wait two hours for a load to be done if it is done right, or I'd be wasting time, money and detergents rewashing everything.

@pierreandreply4 Washing machines made in the UK/Europe (front loaders) have low water levels, which is a true bother to get things washed right. But to heat a small amount of water to 40-60 degrees would take less energy compared to an older front loader which has higher water levels. I know in Canada/US top loader washers are popular, but I envy you when it comes to wash action. They wash well with the high water levels and wash times are quick, as well as the flexability (you could to a quick wash with a warm/hot temp all with the dial control). If only we'd get more of them here (instead of H-axis ones) then rapid washes would be less of an issue.
 
On this side of the pond with my old 1976 FL westy its maximum wash time is 15 minutes.

This time is started once the wash water stops and the timer thus starts.

For stuff really really dirty one can just pull out the timer knob and stop the machine and let it soak.

For dress shirts and lightly soiled stuff one can use less time ie say 10 minutes or less like 5. With stuff like bluejeans and soiled stuff 15 minutes is plenty.

Until I got new 2010 FL washer; for 50 years here I have washed with washes in the 10 to 15 minute range with no issues. A total start to stop spinning cycle here of about 42 minutes is what the few of us usa old FL washers used for 1/2 century.

When one goes to a commercial coin laundromat here the total cycle times are even less; often 20 to 30 minutes.

That is why it is a total shock to buy a new FL washer here and get total cycle times of 1 hour; or 1.5 with a prewash; or 2.5 hours if one uses a mess of modes!

My "take" on longer wash times with many newer machines is because they use less water. The machine farts around with all these weird motions; so the tiny sprays hit all surfaces. Thus in 7 minutes some things are still bone dry; through more weird motions finally that spot gets hit with water drops. The old machine fills the tub to the water level one sets and then washing starts. In only a few seconds all it wet since the water level is such actually the item sit in water and are not just tinkled/sprayed on. On may new FL washers here; if the "extra water button: is not pushed; the items really never are in a pool of water at all. The water level is below the items. One really has a shower than a bath!
 
So in Europe do the government(s) reward washer makers with a huge Corporate tax break when a washer is sold that meets low water levels of consumption?

Here it is several hundred US dollars per machine. Sometimes there is an extra 100 by the states too via a federal short term backed program.

Washer models at local stores are always changing to meet those tax breaks so fast that many are only around for a month. It is really weird. I studied new machines last June and ended up buying one in November. In 5 months about every washer I had looked at was already gone.

It is like a washer is made to be marketed for about 2 months then replaced.
 
3Belt...

I'm not sure about Europe, but I can tell you that it isn't the manufacturers here that get rewarded.

We can still buy old style top loaders if we want them...but consumers generally get a rebate from their council if they buy a machine that is rated at 4 star or better for water usage (which is about 11 litres per kilogram of clothes - so a 6kilogram machine could use 66 litres and qualify)

That way, consumer pressure forces manufacturers to do the job properly or we don't buy their machines....

A much better interpretation of a free market really
 
The first of 2011, the EPA required all washing machine manufacturers, to meet new, requirements in order to be energy star labeled. Requirements for qualifying washers must use 11 percent less energy and 20 percent less water. Thats why you don't see the same models that were out 6-8 months ago, they have been cleared out for the newer models of this year.
Example: I got a LG washer Model WM2050CW in April of 2010. By Oct, 6 months later it was discontinued and replaced! According to March Consumer Reports, which did the washing machine ratings, this model that I have, does meet the 2011 Energy star standard. So my question is, why was it discontinued if it meets the 2011 Energy star standard?
 
Longevity of Whirlpool Manufactured FL Washers

Pierreandreply4,
I would say that you are one of the luckier ones, those Whirlpool machines be they ‘Duets’ or the ‘Kenmore’ variant have had mountains of problems.
Foul odours
Corroded spiders
Failed bearings
Last but not least the dreaded F11 error code.
Just ‘google’ any of the above subjects with ‘Whirlpool Duet’ or ‘Kenmore He washer’ in front and see what you get!
 
I dont know about anyone else?

but im quite happy to wait up to two hours even for a half load. ive never been fussed at all about rapid, fast or quick wash buttons or cycles to tell you the truth "and it may be my picking of washers" but if i use the fast options on any washer ive had it has never washed well enough.

Just wondering is anyone else fussed with time?
 
Not particularly...

I like the option of faster (about 45-60 minutes is now a quick wash on most FL machines here) cycles and am happy to use them if they're that length. Anything less than that really needs good water levels, strong tumbling and solid interim spins to be effective
 

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