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If it’s got the slow pitiful first spin, no. I’ll choose a wringer washer over a Speed Queen with a first slow spin, skin is itching as I type this.

Again, this is why I like machines where I can manipulate the controls to what I want. I suspect why the Maytag A806 was popular is because the sales rep on the sales floor probably pointed out the feature where you could do a normal wash with fast spin which was probably a major selling point along with with built in prewash and soak options as well.
 
awn542

I'd get the awn542 in a heartbeat if I could. I'm so sick and tired of the stupid low speed spin and early spray rinse. As for this gentle agitation of today in the perfect wash, it is so stupid! I don't have delicate clothes, and I don't have time to wait. This is why you need brute force for most cottons and linens especially when they're dirty. Nobody can tell me otherwise.
 
I wish I could share the optimism------

However, I do not believe the quality of the electronics is going to improve with volume sales.
I believe a move to mass production will signal the end for the quality of Speed Queen.
It's always about the $$$$$$$$.

Our local Lowe's no longer takes back defective large appliances even if purchased the same day.
The quality level of the appliances they sell has reached the point where it is garbage and corporate knows it.

And a warranty is worthless if it takes an "unknown" amount of time to get a part-----which may arrive defective or damaged.
 
I don't know

When Kirby for example launched their Classic 1-CR vacuum in 1970, it became a massive hit. It was so popular that they ended up building another plant in Texas to catch up on the production. Even though the Classic had it's design flaws, they've improved it later when they later released the Classic 1-CB Omega a few years later. Speed Queen could possibly still keep it's quality the same if they are going to be doing mass production just like Kirby. Maybe the improvements on electronics aren't going to help with the volume sales, I know it happened with Hoover before for example on their Insight commercial uprights which is one of the reasons why they discontinued them. But at least I'd like something that's been improved than ever before. So I guess you just never know.

Anyways with that being said here. I could care less about the warm water rinse cycle, my Kenmore 90 Series has that feature but I think I've only used it a couple times maybe. I haven't had a problem with cold water rinse although it's nice to know that I'd have the warm water rise option. But I do however care about the water selector and the spin speeds, this is one of the reasons why I'd much rather buy a SQ front loader than a SQ top loader. Preferably the commercial rear panel control models that's either mechanical or electronic. I wouldn't buy a new SQ top loader unless it has the control boards swapped out on the electronic commercial homestyle model, I wouldn't mind the warranty being voided cause I think Gyrafoam made an excellent point. I did thought about and was set to buy a TC5 until I later found out with how regulated it is:/ Still think it is a good washer though, perhaps the last good top loader that'll ever be on the market.
 
Post 1196688 chetlatham:

A Galaxy model, eh?

Simple to use, no need for a lint filter and a simple but thorough cleaning black agitator...

Put that back on the market and outsell mostly all the bells & whistles machines...

As for my Pet Pro, I seldom see any pet hair, we have gui near pigs which really don't shed...

And I've been avoiding washing pet linen with excessive amounts of grass and hay which has been clogging up,our laundry tub causing flooding of our laundry room!

As for manual lint filtering, that agitator-mounted device does little of that, and lint I incidentally see in there looks too gunky for me to touch...

Yet somehow I seldom see anything like that clogging the drain or I prod it with an unbent coat hanger discarding occasionally pieces of...

I'm so used to lint filtering being done goes me really...

-- Dave
 
to gyrafoam...

I agree with you. And I like my clothes "beaten to death". That's how you get clean clothes. Why are we now counseling the dirt out of our clothes with the so-called "perfect wash?" I mean, I've been watching washers for years and know how they should get laundry done. I want clothes turned over. If Speed Queen decides to change their minds and proceed with the Texas Edition, they need to keep their "aggressive" agitation. This whole HE washer which is "gentle" on clothes is a pure scam to me. There's no way you can get ground-in dirt out of dirty denims and cottons. In my opinion, heavy cotton and denim is the most notorious fabric for getting very dirty. That's why it's "aggressive" for a reason. This whole "high efficiency" scheme is a stupid scam! Who in their right mind washes clothes in a cup of water? That's a big reason why I choose Speed Queen Classic! I'll use nothing but heavy duty. I'm just so sick and tired of that stupid delicate spin after wash! I'm done ranting!
 
mass production

Would work well for everyone only if the mechanics of each machine were kept identical to the current TC-5 run. Same thickness, design, material, smelting process, ect, ect. It can be done. Whirlpool did with their wig-wags, their DDs and Maytag with their DC.

No matter what experts say, no matter what all the vocal pro modernists on here say, there is still a very large group of individuals who seek EM timer based machines. From the very basic single knob wonders to fully featured speed/temp/variable water level/prewash/soak/rinse control.
 
Galaxy Speed Queen

Yup, much indeed.

Single knob with a normal cycle that advances 350* around. 30 second timer increments. 16 minutes max wash time- heavy, normal, light, rinse, spin labels. Warm wash/cold rinse only. Single speed motor.

Maybe hot/warm/cold built into the knob.

Ultra basic but what a percentage of the market is actually looking for.

Built the lineup from there like Kenmore did.
 
Hooray for Lowe’s

Reply number 42, that’s wonderful of Lowe’s is not taking back appliances, nobody should be taking back appliances today. The quality is so high, not one and three or 400 appliances is defective when it’s taken out of the box and hooked up.

This stupidity of taking back appliances that people claim don’t work properly when they really bought the wrong thing or didn’t hook it up correctly is causing the appliance industry make the machines cheaper and cheaper so they can absorb the losses that this nonsense causes.

The whole mentality of taking back a major Appliance just gives the impression that they’re cheap and unrepairable, do you think a car dealer would ever take back a car that has a problem.

In working with Speed Queen for 15 years, I can’t point to one single place where they’ve saved a penny where they have cheap in the machine in the slightest way, in fact, they continue to make them better and better, and make the warranties longer and longer.

I will challenge anybody to point to a place where Speed Queen has saved money in the last 15 years by cheapening The machine that they’re selling now compared to what they were selling 10 or 15 years ago.

John
 
^^ Contradiction

Well reply 48... that is a big contradiction... which is not even the root of the problem. On one hand you claim appliance quality is higher today, yet one sentence later admit appliances are getting cheaper and cheaper? Hmmm...

Consumers return appliances because they suck at executing their most basic task. Washers don't wash clothes, dishwasher don't wash or dry dishes, dryers don't dry, refrigerators don't preserve food, ovens don't cook, microwaves don't reheat, vacuums don't remove dirt, toaster don't toast, ect.

Of course any reasonable person will demand a refund for a non peforming product regardless of the payed price. Lowes is most likely, like to many institutions in America, responding reflexively. They see a pattern of people returning appliances en mass so clueless managers assume customers are merely to dumb to use return policies responsibly simply apply binaryy logic to detour the problem. Logic along the lines of 'If we prohibit returns, then returns will stop'. Not realizing that the customers' behavior isn't the problem but rather a symptom of manufacturers selling severely deficient appliances that aren't even worth half the selling price.

On the other hand appliances like the Sharp microwave I recently purchased which outperforms every other microwave on the market has a "customer usually keeps this item" tag in its listing. There is no need to return an appliance that actually does its job.

Further the reviews for this oven prove that a well designed no nonsense BOL machine will meet customer satisfaction more often than expansive exotic gimmicks. When built to the laws of physics with the correct math applied an appliance will inherently do everything to perfection in its most basic rudimentary operation than the most complex features supposedly do. Ie, there is no need for turn tables, defrost settings, moisture sensors, microphones, fuzzy logic, magnetron cycling, convection fans, heating elements, LCD displays, inverters, ect, ect when the oven is actually engineered to reheat food.

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Word is spreading---------

and the public is on to it. Much new stuff is junk right out of the box especially the "Singsong" (oh, shut-up----you know who I am talking about!) laundry stuff. The public does not understand why their "old" machines lasted for decades and the "new" machines barely make it out of warranty----- if at all. So much for better quality.
I am surrounded by people in the appliance repair business and none of them think that ANYTHING built today is better quality than in the past. SQ laundry equipment is good stuff-----but, they have their issues, too.

Now, I currently have a SQ Washer I bought (new) about a dozen years ago that has very low mileage. It is currently out of service with a bad timer and one of the tub supports has given way. She looks brand-new otherwise. I am not known to abuse the appliances. Can't say I have ever had a machine with a tub support that gave way.
Of course, ALL machines will eventually break down.
 
Word is spreading---------

and the public is on to it. Much new stuff is junk right out of the box especially the "Singsong" (oh, shut-up----you know who I am talking about!) laundry stuff. The public does not understand why their "old" machines lasted for decades and the "new" machines barely make it out of warranty----- if at all. So much for better quality.
I am surrounded by people in the appliance repair business and none of them think that ANYTHING built today is better quality than in the past. SQ laundry equipment is good stuff-----but, they have their issues, too.

Now, I currently have a SQ Washer I bought (new) about a dozen years ago that has very low mileage. It is currently out of service with a bad timer and one of the tub supports has given way. She looks brand-new otherwise. I am not known to abuse the appliances. Can't say I have ever had a machine with a tub support that gave way.
Of course, ALL machines will eventually break down.

By the way, call me old-fashioned, but, If I am sold a defective appliance new out of the box, then I fully expect the store I purchased it from to make good on it immediately. All the good stores I know of, do. I am not about to wait for "warranty service" to answer their phone, or wait six months for a part.
We saw a man unload a brand-new "Singsong" refrigerator out front of Lowe's and literally dump it on the floor just inside the front door. He was very vocal about it. Apparently it had been delivered new that morning and by afternoon was still not cooling. The customer could not get satisfaction over the phone in a reasonable manner. So he brought it back for a refund. I'm sure he got it too because in a few days that refrigerator was in the "scratch and dent" section to pawn-off on some other shmuck, and the store was afraid of the bad publicity.
 
I'm sure there is more to that story-

Per Lowe's website:

 

Return Policy Exceptions

48-Hour Return Policy

    Return must be initiated with Lowe’s within 48 hours of delivery or the time of pickup at a Lowe’s location.
    Major Appliances - Refrigerators, freezers, washers, dryers, ranges, hoods, dishwashers, over-the-range microwaves, cooktops, wall ovens, washer and dryer pedestals.
    Utility Vehicles and Golf Carts - Must be returned to a Lowe’s store in the original state of purchase with original paperwork including title (if applicable).
    Exceptions:
        Major Appliances returned in original, unopened, undamaged, factory-sealed packaging may be returned within 30 days of purchase.
        Purchases made with Lowe’s Commercial Account (LCA), Lowe’s Business Advantage (LBA), Lowe’s Advantage Card (LAC), Lowe’s Business Rewards (LBR), Lowe’s PreLoad Plus Mastercard®, Lowe’s Lease to Own (LTO) may be returned within 30 days of purchase.

 

 
We just had a thread not too long ago where user decodriveboy had problems with their Speed Queen and replaced them with an LG. The Speed Queen was less than 10 years old.
 
OZZIE 908:

 

Yes, we got our new washer last year... The old one did work and I'd found a family to give it to who gave it to someone needing a new washer...

 

Well, the old one was too fancy just to only use it for that one speed, and the grass and hay all over that washer was cruel to do there, too...

 

So the stuff with the excessive amounts maybe I'll just have to take to a laundromat, seems as though we'd gotten away with it before--not ever gotten those "Oh, no, it's those DREADED PET PEOPLE!!!!

 

And two plumbing and even another electrical outlet there is too much...

 

 

 

-- Dave
 

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