kenmore1978
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I remember there was a thread about the seam in GE's stainless steel tub. Was in the laundry the other day and to be fair, SQ's stainless tub had a seam in it, too
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kenmore1978
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seam in SS tub
Hmm, if that's the case, I wonder why GE was getting brunt of our criticism?
Hmm, if that's the case, I wonder why GE was getting brunt of our criticism?
mrcleanjeans
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GE jive
I'd say because GE top-loaders, with the exception of the Harmony are so cheezy that it's easy to criticise overall.The tub is not as thick as the Speed Queen, whose overall quality and durability make it's seam more forgivable.For the most part,GE has brought bad things to life for a long time.
I'd say because GE top-loaders, with the exception of the Harmony are so cheezy that it's easy to criticise overall.The tub is not as thick as the Speed Queen, whose overall quality and durability make it's seam more forgivable.For the most part,GE has brought bad things to life for a long time.
S/S tubs
All front loaders here with S/S tubs have seams in them, which usually lies just along from one of the wash paddles. This can often be seen as a row of "stud" type marks.
Jon
All front loaders here with S/S tubs have seams in them, which usually lies just along from one of the wash paddles. This can often be seen as a row of "stud" type marks.
Jon
I believe the seamless SS tub became a memory with the demise of the Speed Queen solid tub washer design in 79-80. I've seen many, many SQ perf. basket SS tubs and never has one seam been rusty, rough or damaged in any way.
arrrooohhh
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I dont see what the problem with a seam in a stainless steel tub is either.
I thought all stainless tubs had seems. I haven't seen those GE's as they are not sold in Australia anymore, but I cant see why they should be singled out for ridicule.
Heres a picture of a Simpson stainless steel tub where you can see the seam.
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I thought all stainless tubs had seems. I haven't seen those GE's as they are not sold in Australia anymore, but I cant see why they should be singled out for ridicule.
Heres a picture of a Simpson stainless steel tub where you can see the seam.
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That Simpson looks like mucho fun!
I'm pretty sure my F&P's have a seam.
I'm pretty sure my F&P's have a seam.
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I've only seen 1 Pulgitator washer in the US, a GE 600N clone...still looking too. This Simpson looks interesting, especially with those vanes on the tub!
Glenn, I don't remember seeing a seam in your F&P, but maybe it's less visible than most.
Glenn, I don't remember seeing a seam in your F&P, but maybe it's less visible than most.
arrrooohhh
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Pulgitators are fun!
Those Simpsons are heaps of fun. After using one again (after some years) at my old flatmates place I realised they are much more fun than Mums DD Whirlpool. They do a stroke of more than 360 degrees and are somewhat jerky when they reverse, so providing some drama as the clothes resist the currents.
But for real Australian pulgitator drama the old Hoovers (now sadly Australia's equivelent of Frigidaires takeover by WCI) these Hoovers couldnt be beat. The agitator does something like 2 full revolutions before reversing and the splashing can be incredible sometimes.
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Those Simpsons are heaps of fun. After using one again (after some years) at my old flatmates place I realised they are much more fun than Mums DD Whirlpool. They do a stroke of more than 360 degrees and are somewhat jerky when they reverse, so providing some drama as the clothes resist the currents.
But for real Australian pulgitator drama the old Hoovers (now sadly Australia's equivelent of Frigidaires takeover by WCI) these Hoovers couldnt be beat. The agitator does something like 2 full revolutions before reversing and the splashing can be incredible sometimes.
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GE bears the brunt because it is adomestic washer. Until recently, SQ was only available commercially, and Amana never had that big of a market share. So the bigger presence GE gets the most air time.
mrcleanjeans
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SQ aint so new
Speed Queen has,as an automatic washer, been available domestically for over 50 years, and as a wringer well before that.
Speed Queen has,as an automatic washer, been available domestically for over 50 years, and as a wringer well before that.
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Now are these the early Hoovers (after the Blackstone design) with the best Pulgitator action?
your exactly right mr. cleanjeans
When our amana was purchased it was before sq was unable to provide home automatics and in fact there were amana, sq clones on the sales floor this was about 1994 I would imagine as we have had our amana along time now. It has never required a repair but has always been noisey. It was not long after this that I noticed there were no sq's for sale though. If i remember correctly the sq was cheaper, but the amana had a large rebate at that time. Last time i looked in Home depot the Maytag of today appears to have the same "seamed" perf tub as these amana's and sqs of a decade ago. The Mayana connection.
When our amana was purchased it was before sq was unable to provide home automatics and in fact there were amana, sq clones on the sales floor this was about 1994 I would imagine as we have had our amana along time now. It has never required a repair but has always been noisey. It was not long after this that I noticed there were no sq's for sale though. If i remember correctly the sq was cheaper, but the amana had a large rebate at that time. Last time i looked in Home depot the Maytag of today appears to have the same "seamed" perf tub as these amana's and sqs of a decade ago. The Mayana connection.
mrcleanjeans
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yes,there was a brief time SQ was off the market,my statement was an overall statement.
The GE tub just looks cheap----like the metal is thin enough to punch through!
arrrooohhh
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Hoover pulgitator
Austin,
The pulgitator Hoover was still "Classic" Hoover as they were Hoovers design made in there Meadowbank Factory in Sydney.
They were then sold to the Email company who owned Simpson and Westinghouse and the Syndey factory closed and moved to the Email factory in Adelaide. Email was then taken over by Electrolux.
We still have Hoovers but the new ones are ugly cheap looking superseded Simpson models. Electrolux is pushing three brands, ELectrlux, Westinghouse and Simpson but it seems to be hanging on to a Hoover offering because the name is so well known for washing machines and they are not Electronic controlled like the rest of the range. So sad.
Austin,
The pulgitator Hoover was still "Classic" Hoover as they were Hoovers design made in there Meadowbank Factory in Sydney.
They were then sold to the Email company who owned Simpson and Westinghouse and the Syndey factory closed and moved to the Email factory in Adelaide. Email was then taken over by Electrolux.
We still have Hoovers but the new ones are ugly cheap looking superseded Simpson models. Electrolux is pushing three brands, ELectrlux, Westinghouse and Simpson but it seems to be hanging on to a Hoover offering because the name is so well known for washing machines and they are not Electronic controlled like the rest of the range. So sad.
Electroluxes work in AU is abominable
Hi Westy and Aroooh
The pulgitator machines arent based on the blackstone design. The pulgitators reverse the motor every 400 odd degree's to change the direction of agitation. The blackstone models had a gearbox that did the work.
Correct me if I've boobed Aaaroooohhh but the last of the gearbox controled agitation machines by Simpson and Hoover were gone by the mid 80's. The last simpsons with a single direction motor had a gearbox outser shell that looked like a huge clear tupperware container, with clips that held the lid on
The Pulgitators dont seem to need good rollover to get results, especially with a full load. The agitator goes back and forth and things move round in circles, but these are the number one selling machine in AU, so users must be more than happy with the performance.
The current simpsons look like a slightly poorer, cousin to the F&P, except they have a dial to electronically select the cycle rather than multiple buttons. The Simpson and the Westinghouse are now about as solidly built as one can expect for a mid priced modern machine.
The poor Hoovie however has become the very poor relative in all this. While the Simpson and the Westinghouse get Eco Cycles, the Hoover is pretty much the same as the old generation simpson/Hoover have been for 10+ years. However without the electronics I suppose there is much less to go wrong. (Sensor wise that is)
I know how passionate Aaarooooh is about the Simpsons, and I know I havent necessarily been a supporter in the past, but in the AU market, they give you the best bang for ones buck that you could ask for.
Hugs
Nathan
Hi Westy and Aroooh
The pulgitator machines arent based on the blackstone design. The pulgitators reverse the motor every 400 odd degree's to change the direction of agitation. The blackstone models had a gearbox that did the work.
Correct me if I've boobed Aaaroooohhh but the last of the gearbox controled agitation machines by Simpson and Hoover were gone by the mid 80's. The last simpsons with a single direction motor had a gearbox outser shell that looked like a huge clear tupperware container, with clips that held the lid on
The Pulgitators dont seem to need good rollover to get results, especially with a full load. The agitator goes back and forth and things move round in circles, but these are the number one selling machine in AU, so users must be more than happy with the performance.
The current simpsons look like a slightly poorer, cousin to the F&P, except they have a dial to electronically select the cycle rather than multiple buttons. The Simpson and the Westinghouse are now about as solidly built as one can expect for a mid priced modern machine.
The poor Hoovie however has become the very poor relative in all this. While the Simpson and the Westinghouse get Eco Cycles, the Hoover is pretty much the same as the old generation simpson/Hoover have been for 10+ years. However without the electronics I suppose there is much less to go wrong. (Sensor wise that is)
I know how passionate Aaarooooh is about the Simpsons, and I know I havent necessarily been a supporter in the past, but in the AU market, they give you the best bang for ones buck that you could ask for.
Hugs
Nathan
