Speed Queen current line up in production through 2018
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depends on the bulk of the load.....and of course the machine......
I have quilts, not puffed comforters.....so for example in the FL Neptunes, yeah, I would wash the whole bedding(quilt, sheets, and pillowcases) in one load, wether if it was a king, queen, or twin size...
this same thing would fit in the SQ just the same....granted not all machines can handle this type of load well...
I have quilts, not puffed comforters.....so for example in the FL Neptunes, yeah, I would wash the whole bedding(quilt, sheets, and pillowcases) in one load, wether if it was a king, queen, or twin size...
this same thing would fit in the SQ just the same....granted not all machines can handle this type of load well...
IMO it's got more to do with cleaning requrements than load size. I mean I can't remember the last time I washed sheets in something other than hot water, sometimes with LCB etc, meanwhile I don't think I've ever washed a bedspread in hot water.
Aluminum Gears
Plastic gears will outlast aluminum gears any day, remember every MT AW washer ever built had at least one plastic gear in the transmission and they never had problems with the plastic gears, WP also used one plastic gear in their DD washers and I have never seen one of these fail. To my knowledge GE never used any plastic gears in any AW washer they built, Norge did however but it was never the gears that failed, LOL.
The current SQ TL washers are very good machines and we sell at least a few every week, BUT they are nowhere as good at turning over a big load as the WP-KM washers with a dual action agitator, I always feel bad when we haul away a WP built DD washer and install a new SQ TLer, not only is the agitation poorer for large loads but they also leave the clothing less clean and well rinsed because they spin all the dirty through the clothing as they drain.
Plastic gears will outlast aluminum gears any day, remember every MT AW washer ever built had at least one plastic gear in the transmission and they never had problems with the plastic gears, WP also used one plastic gear in their DD washers and I have never seen one of these fail. To my knowledge GE never used any plastic gears in any AW washer they built, Norge did however but it was never the gears that failed, LOL.
The current SQ TL washers are very good machines and we sell at least a few every week, BUT they are nowhere as good at turning over a big load as the WP-KM washers with a dual action agitator, I always feel bad when we haul away a WP built DD washer and install a new SQ TLer, not only is the agitation poorer for large loads but they also leave the clothing less clean and well rinsed because they spin all the dirty through the clothing as they drain.
pierreandreply4
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a true washer
i would say what ever the brand of washer there should be a way to save energy without changing the water temp coming in the washer like for exemple this vintge washer where like hot water enter hot if hot water temp is selected same for warm water and same for cold and this also go for a warm water rinse if the washer has a warm rinse water temp
i would say what ever the brand of washer there should be a way to save energy without changing the water temp coming in the washer like for exemple this vintge washer where like hot water enter hot if hot water temp is selected same for warm water and same for cold and this also go for a warm water rinse if the washer has a warm rinse water temp
Combo52
Maytag and I think some Frigidaires spun rinsed as well.
Nevertheless, I believe my laundry is just as clean in the SQ as it was in the GE profile. The GE gave 14 years of good service, but when it died, it was an expensive death for sure.
Maytag and I think some Frigidaires spun rinsed as well.
Nevertheless, I believe my laundry is just as clean in the SQ as it was in the GE profile. The GE gave 14 years of good service, but when it died, it was an expensive death for sure.
Energy Savings
Again the United States when it comes to laundry washing machines and to an extent dishwashers are now putting a laser focus on the cost to heat the water that goes into the machine.
Traditional top loading washing machines use the most water of any domestic laundry and or other appliance. The only way to get that usage down is to either use cooler water temps, and or less water period.
On the other side of the pond though washing machines long have heated their own water there is still the problem of energy consumption. Leaving aside the UK and Scandinavian countries with access to North Sea petrol reserves there isn't much of that in Europe. Electric power generation must then come from other natural sources (coal or whatever else can be burned) or nuclear.
Again the United States when it comes to laundry washing machines and to an extent dishwashers are now putting a laser focus on the cost to heat the water that goes into the machine.
Traditional top loading washing machines use the most water of any domestic laundry and or other appliance. The only way to get that usage down is to either use cooler water temps, and or less water period.
On the other side of the pond though washing machines long have heated their own water there is still the problem of energy consumption. Leaving aside the UK and Scandinavian countries with access to North Sea petrol reserves there isn't much of that in Europe. Electric power generation must then come from other natural sources (coal or whatever else can be burned) or nuclear.
Despite the claims, SQ never had a true 210 arc... It was 180 at best... Same with Norge...
neptunebob
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I wish Speed Queen would bring back the script lettering like on the machines in the ad above, I think it would be a hit with the mid-century look.
Likewise Neptunebob
In fact, I would like to see the Arc-C-Cuate come back with a separate belt driven pump in lieu of the current direct drive plastic pump. And a true 210 degrees of stroke no less!
At any rate, regardless of engineering, the machine works as advertised and does not add any drama to washday as do some of the techo-laden modern machines.
In fact, I would like to see the Arc-C-Cuate come back with a separate belt driven pump in lieu of the current direct drive plastic pump. And a true 210 degrees of stroke no less!
At any rate, regardless of engineering, the machine works as advertised and does not add any drama to washday as do some of the techo-laden modern machines.
50 years is the design limit for the FLers.
Am I reading this correct? That they expect SQ FL to last 50 years.
In the UK, where we have had FL longer, the average life of a FL is now around 4 to 6 years :/
Even Miele, which is our best of the best, only state up to 20 years.
My FL has just broke this week, and that is only 7 months old (not a cheap one either - equivalent to around $1500).
Am I reading this correct? That they expect SQ FL to last 50 years.
In the UK, where we have had FL longer, the average life of a FL is now around 4 to 6 years :/
Even Miele, which is our best of the best, only state up to 20 years.
My FL has just broke this week, and that is only 7 months old (not a cheap one either - equivalent to around $1500).
Theoretically, I would think you could get 50 years out of a washer…but where do you draw the line for parts replacement? If you replace motors, bearings, pumps, belts, struts, seals and electronics, is it still the same washer or is it a new one?
No frigilux
It would be old wine in a new bottle! Or something like that
I agree, in theory, that one could get 50 years out of a washer. Well, let me clarify that statement, that would only apply to something built no later than say the 1970's. Maybe even earlier. No modern machine, save for SQ, would match that.
Then we'd have to have a criteria of sorts that defines "useful life" and how much of the original parts are being replaced.
For instance, you have ______ (insert brand) for say 5 years. You replace a timer module. Is the washer still useable? Was the replacement cost a reasonable percentage of purchase price? Can you even get a replacement part? What if nothing else goes wrong for the next 45 years? Did the machine "last"?
Is replacing only a belt enough to satisfy the replacement requirement?
Hard to say for sure.
Not even a Model T would last that long without something being replaced and that was about a bare bones car as one could get.
It would be old wine in a new bottle! Or something like that
I agree, in theory, that one could get 50 years out of a washer. Well, let me clarify that statement, that would only apply to something built no later than say the 1970's. Maybe even earlier. No modern machine, save for SQ, would match that.
Then we'd have to have a criteria of sorts that defines "useful life" and how much of the original parts are being replaced.
For instance, you have ______ (insert brand) for say 5 years. You replace a timer module. Is the washer still useable? Was the replacement cost a reasonable percentage of purchase price? Can you even get a replacement part? What if nothing else goes wrong for the next 45 years? Did the machine "last"?
Is replacing only a belt enough to satisfy the replacement requirement?
Hard to say for sure.
Not even a Model T would last that long without something being replaced and that was about a bare bones car as one could get.
liamy1 ...
… no one is "saying" their washers can last up to 50 years.
In fact, no one has ever "said" it.
The fact of the matter is that today's washers are not built as well as previous generations. Period.
And washers of eras past most certainly CAN last 50 years (or even longer) given good care.
But that's the caveat: good care. Most consumers are hard on their appliances, so they don't generally last longer than 20 years.
… no one is "saying" their washers can last up to 50 years.
In fact, no one has ever "said" it.
The fact of the matter is that today's washers are not built as well as previous generations. Period.
And washers of eras past most certainly CAN last 50 years (or even longer) given good care.
But that's the caveat: good care. Most consumers are hard on their appliances, so they don't generally last longer than 20 years.
NYCWriter
IIRC, the only maker that stated something along the lines of longevity was Miele.
In fact, had they kept the 4800 series for US distribution, I would have seriously considered that model to replace the GE when it died.
IIRC, the only maker that stated something along the lines of longevity was Miele.
In fact, had they kept the 4800 series for US distribution, I would have seriously considered that model to replace the GE when it died.
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