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the 50's were the curvy years! look at jane russell, she had to do playtex bra commercials after the 60's hit! i'll the take the curvy women of the 50's any day, with the possible exception of audrey hepburn. funny i watched niagara on u tube the other day having just gotten back from buffalo new york. love that line!
 
Jane Russell

Actually had a very good stage, Vagas, and singing career well into the 1960's or 1970's IIRC. Know she was in Sondheim's "Company" taking over for none other than Elaine Stritch and yes Miss. Russell sang the heck out of "Ladies Who Lunch".

Even with those commercials and adverts for "us full figured gals", shouldn't feel too sorry for Miss. Russell, the lady was well compensated.

However will agree with you that in general, once the 1960's hit in earnest, things weren't so easy for the curvy sex stars of the previous decade. Jane Mansfield, Mamie Van Doren and the lot would have just seemed so part of another era to the young men of the Woodstock era. Then of course fashions changed and girdles went out. For a certian type of woman, going out without her thighs encased in lycra, rubber, or spandex gives an impression from the rear of two pigs fighting under a blanket.
 
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For a certian type of woman, going out without her thighs encased in lycra, rubber, or spandex gives an impression from the rear of two pigs fighting under a blanket.

Of course when I read things like this, I visualize it. What a sight that would be! This cracked me up.

Nowadays "full figured" usually means obese or a drag queen.
 
in a way you a partially right jeff

the massive coverup of her death did unravel as the years went on, people got older and got tired of lying about it. mrs. murray's taped confession is a prime example. one of many!

what people believe they believe, as long as i know the truth i'm satisfied. it's out there! and there are many more out there who know the story as well.

"some like it hot" was a great film, and marilyn had a percentage of the gross on that one, unlike her fox films so it made her and arthur miller some money. the farm miller bought while married to marilyn (and where he lived till his death) was paid for by marilyn.
 
Well Yes,

But considering what had happened, if certian theories hold true Mrs. Murray could have been on the hook for criminal charges (not that anyone would have brougth them on an elderly woman).

Tampering with evidence, failing to render assistance, perjury, the lot up to an possibly manslaughter if the woman assisted with giving the drug lace enema. Then of course there would be the fallout and perhaps even scorn from the millions of MM fans all over the world held against a person they belived "killed" the star.

No, after giving a lie that long, one best keep rolling with it to the grave.
 
mrs murray did say something

before she died. i have it on videotape actually in one of my files on marilyn. an interview with anthony sommers, author of "goddess". she told the same tired story for over 20 years about finding the light on under marilyn's door around midnite, then changing it to finding the telephone cord under marilyn's door when it was brought up by witnesses that marilyn had just had new carpet installed in her bedroom thick ebnough to prevent light from being seen under the door. the story also changed from "around midnite" till around 3 a.m. when the question was raised as to why police were not alerted till 4 am. if she found her at midnite.

different variations but the same lie basically. she found marilyn, called dr. greemnson who rushed over and broke her bedroom window to enter it, finding marilyn dead! funny, the broken window was investigated and it was found it had been broken from the inside (as part of the coverup) as the glass lay on the ground on the outside!

she even wrote a book (which i have) with the help of her sister. same old story pretty much. she said it was her "piscerian qualities" that alerted her to somthing wrong that nite with marilyn. her sister was a psychic.

truth be told she did discover marilyn, but not in her bedroom, in the guest house and her son in law, handiman norman jeffries was with her. it wasn't her "piscerian qualities" that alerted her, it was the site of marilyn laying on the bed comatose with a phone in her hand! again in her guest house, trying to reach peter lawford for help as she went under.

murray finally told the truth, to anthony sommers, saying "why, why at my age do i have to keep on covering up this thing". she then admitted that bobby kennedy had indeed come to see marilyn that day. hotel records in L.A. later proved it as well as the testimony of lynn sheridan, the police officer to stop lawford's car speeding along with bobby inside. the helicopter service used to transport bobby out of town also provided proof.

murray also said on tape when asked about bobby visiting marilyn on aug 4th. "oh yes, sure, he was there. he was in the the living room, she was not yet dressed". this jives with testimony that marilyn didn't sleep fri nite due to a series of disturbing threatening phone calls to her from a woman she thought to be ethel kennedy or someone acting for her. she was tired and angry that day and was in her robe until kennedy's visit.

murray also stated that "i was not supposed to know the details of marilyn's involvement with bobby, i was not made aware of any of this by marilyn, but over time i was a witness to what was happening.".

more importantly, she also stated on tape "it became very sticky for the attorney general so the protectors of bobby kennedy had to step in".

mrs. murray is dead, norman jeffries died from cancer after giving his wheel chair confession stating "i guess they can't very well execute me in this wheel chair". peter lawford is dead after making a death side "confession" stating "if any of this were true i could never tell of it, ever, out of my loyalty to jack". dr geenson died and after initially taking part in the cover up went to his grave declaring "Marilyn did not commit suicide".

her physician, dr engleberg may still be around but he never gave any true account of what he knew. pat newcomb her press agent turned bobby kennedy subordinate is still around and has never spoken a word to anyone about it! she was a key witness as she and lawford arrived before marilyn died. it was pat screaming hysterically when marilyn did die that alerted mrs. murray and norman jeffries (who had gone back to the main house area) that marilyn was dead. those wanting the truth suppressed would definately not want pat newcomb to testify under oath! the kennedy family would not want pat testifying under oath! once she dies the last key witness will be gone.

marilyn's dear friend robert slatzer who spent the rest of his life researching her murder is gone. his libray files had over a million peices of evidence on the subject! he wrote 2 books. he spoke to marilyn on fri aug 3rd. when she told him "if he won't talk to me by this weekend (bobby) i'm going to hold a press conference on monday and blow the lid off this whole damn thing!". it was the last time slatzer talked to marilyn alive and he had a friend witness the converation.

her girlfriend jeanne carmen is still alive, she was a golf pro and actress back when marilyn and her were friends in 61 and 62. she witnessed marilyn's affairs with bobby and jack.
after marilyn died she left california for good! she wan't the only one to get out of town! she has been a great source of info. she has stated she feels foul play was involved.

john minor, who was present at marilyn's autopsy is still around i believe and pushed to have the case re-opened to no avail. he was stedfast in his declaring that "miss monroe did not take her own life". he was privy to a lot of taped info marilyn had recorded for dr. greenson. his testimony would be invaluable if ever under oath!

there may be a few more left but twice serious efforts have been made to re-open the case and exhume the body but both times political pressure from the kennedy camp closed it down.

now 47 years later not enough people are alive and not enough people care to have marilyn's body exhumed. but john minor along with others have stated that if they could exhume marilyn's body they could prove it was homicide. and again, the truth has been there all along in that origional autopsy report! the amount of drugs found in her blood was so high that only an injection could have achieved it! pills could not have done it (and no pills traces were found in her stomach anyway) and an enema could not have done it! she would have died long before that high a percentage was reached! i'm sure marilyn is pleased about that. i can just hear her saying "gee, who'd a thought my autopsy would be the best script i ever had!"

shortly before her death she asked richard merryman who did a "life" interview on her (which came out the day before she died) not to make her look like a joke!

she would not want her memory to be tarnished with the stigma of suicide or accidental overdose when it was homicide! she fought for respect all her life and would want the same consideration concerning her death. she would want the truth to be told. i would if it was me, i'm sure anyone would!

i, along with a lot of other people know what happened to marilyn. a lot of people have tried to get the truth out concerning her homicide. i add my voice in any way i can! not for my sake. i do this to help her! like i said she is with me every day, in spirit! sometimes i feel her presence profoundly. i owe it to her memory! i owe it to her! i will go to my own grave helping declare what has been discovered concerning her death.

i quote j edgar hoover again in closing here

"monroe was murdered, the kennedy's were involved".
 
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