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Here’s a picture of the extractor I’m getting, The handle on the right of the lid Locks The lid closed, releases the brake and starts the motor, Although I think the switch is possibly stuck in the on position, I’ll look at it in more detail when it arrives

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Absolutely NOTHING electronic.

The most "complex" thing is an electromechanical timer similar to a vintage washer.

Even the clicking noises sound like a vintage washer.

Pressure switch also isn't electronic. a good and reliabe ANALOGIC pressure switch.

If somebody wants to adjust the water level (which is not necessary at all because I intentionally made the water level already ABSURDLY high to make D.O.E. hate me forever) One just needs to remove the top and adjust the pressure switch using a philips screwdriver. (be aware it's a PITA to do that)

as I mentioned before... I was made to be SIMPLE and RELIABLE.
 
Would pics of the timer or tech sheet be to much? I already like the choice of wire colors your using.

Well thought out machine. You could make a larger Staber version for customers who want a full size yet economical no BS washer but I doubt it would sell as well.

Honestly I wish you could make full size washers considering how well you are doing with portables. You have a gift, and I like it! :)
 
Regarding the full size, not portable HATL washer.

1) It will be way bigger
2) There will be a version that also dries
3) For the version that dries, there will be a GAS version.
4) All of them have internal heater (gas version will have a GAS heater)
5)It's impossible to make it electronics-free, but I intentionally kept electronics to a minimal, only what was impossible to avoid.
6) The electric version will be vented and there will be another verson that's condensing.
7) Stainless steel in and out.
8) I'm trying to make it a self contained suds saver. Not sure if the cost will allow that.
9) Intentionally designed to look like a vintage washer the concept is all around 1940's and 1950's "industrial" look.
10) Kevin's (Revvinkevin) Coin op westinghouses were an excellent source of inspiration for the cosmetic design.
11) It will have some bells and whistles and "easter eggs" that people here on AWO will faint when they see. (No, it won't play "how dry I am" because that's not "original")
12) Yes, it will "play" something. Inspired on one of my favorite Hanna Barbera cartoons but not exactly like that due to copyright and that will be electronic... adding a xylophone would be TMI nowadays.
13) 10-year full warranty (parts and labor) as standard.
14) Whirlpool will probably want to send somebody to murder me.
15) 100% MADE IN U.S.A.
16) It will be freaking expensive but we don't care. You're going to be getting what you paid for.
 
I actually understand what John tried to say. Unfortunately some costs here in the USA are really outrageous. Add to this the "corporation" thing (having to make shareholders happy). The result is what we've seen happening for decades: quality being replaced by "profit", so meticulously calculated that we end up seeing stupid things like washers that last 50% less because or a simple bearing that would have costed 25 cents more. Plus planned obsolescence, etc, etc, etc.

Add to that the culture of making people believe something is really absurdly expensive because of a silly feature, like "Look, this model costs 3x more but it has an interior light and the power plug has out logo on it.

For a small family company(now not so small thanks to COVID), we dont need to make shareholders happy, so we have a bit more freedom.

Luckily at this point, the CEO really trusts me and gives me the green light to use all my knowledge and expertise. I was also able to educate him about many things, for example bells and whistles may make some younger customers happy and the market is full of models with tons of bells and whistles. But the market has a giant deficit of "No-nonsense" models focused on performance and durability.

It's a shame that the Golden era of the American engineering was completely forgotten by AMERICAN corporations and an immigrant is the only one trying to bring it back.

Our company survived and thrived with cheaper models. If you pay attention to our product timeline, there was a huge improvement starting in 2016, when I joined the company. We'll never stop.making those low cost products because they're part of our DNA. We may not add some features to keep them affordable, but we will never "save 5 cents on a part", sacrificing quality to protect profit.

And now, we're slowly starting to add more products and parallel to that develop medium and high end models.

Some products I am authorized to openly talk about because they're going to be released very soon are:

1)round washer inspired on a maytag wringer (mentioned above). It won't be a washer that people here will say "Wow, it's fantastic, it's wonderful, it's the best thing since sliced bread", but it will do a decent job and will last average 10-12 years under normal household use. And costing under $100. Again, you get what you paid for, but at least we tried to do our best to make it reliable. Our competitor is those Chinese craps sold on eBay that comes with a 30-day warranty and a 6-month expected life.

2) We're bringing back the "Scirocco" washer from the 1980s. Now much improved, more reliable, more functional, automatic and it will have the drying.
Small capacity, the drying isn't the very best thing in the world, but it works. If you have a spin dryer, that washer can be a lifesaver if you live in an RV.
Competitor is an expensive front load all in one unit. Of course it will be better than our little scirocco, but its not portable, its not super compact, and its not affordable, specially for people that live on fixed income and struggle using laundromats.

3) The niagara spin off. Everything in it was calculated considering the worst case scenario of a family living off-grid. It MUST work using a crappy walmart amazon portable solar panel because those customers can't afford a better solar system. It has to be functional, it has to be inexpensive, but it can not leave quality behind. Our competitor, in this case is a washboard in an RV bathtub.

We will definitely make A LOT of noise on the next few months.
 
I'm so proud of you! :) And grateful that you exist.

I'd really try and make a low cost combo. I'm figuring that if the machine does not spin, you can easily add a blower and heater for just a bit more. But thats me just imagining.

I have to say, my mind is still swimming from the Niagra.

If you could start producing a no none sense DW and stove I think this could make the company compete with Whirlpool.

You will never meet another no none sense person like me I think.
 
A New Gas Combo, Reply # 51

I may be off in the retail price somewhat, but it will still be north of $10,000 easily if it does even 3/4 of the things you list in reply # 51.

 

We have ranges in this country that cost $10,000 too over $20,000, many high end refs cost over $10,000.

 

I am glad you are here Thomas the world needs big thinkers and dreamers, I dream of designs and machines I would like to see as well, I do believe full sized combination washer-dryers will make a comeback and do fairly well. But it will take a large company to do it and even then it will cost over $4000.

 

When you look at the several people that thought they would build an original automobile over the last 50 years no one has ever succeeded in doing much more than blowing through millions of dollars.

 

John L.
 
...Not when you have 30 somethign products subsidizing the costs...

And after they "catch up", it's a different story.

Today my husband and I spent 500+ dollars ona food processor, known as the "badass" creme de la creme of household food processors.

We had no other alternative, but I'm sure it costed no more than $20 for the manufacturer.

Once we break this "we need to have absurd profit so our products will be considered superior just because they're expensive and very few people can afford them", things get much easier.

Years ago, would you believe a company would make a HATL washer that doesn't cost a fortune? Well, it's on the market since last year.
 
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