Spin shaft measurements

[bazzybtec]

Does anyone know what the spin shaft measurements are from for a whirlpool belt drive machine?

I have removed the transmission from the washing machine. I have measured the spin shaft itself and it seems to be 16" from the break pad to the top. from the pully to the top of the shaft it is 17.5 or there about. I am hoping i have ordered the correct part, i ordered 383923.

I also damaged a rubber pipe to the magic filter. not sure what to do about that.

 

[bazzybtec]

Also the local machine repair shop has said i need to replace the bearings and the center shaft seals however i don't know what the part numbers or even where to find those parts in the machine.

 

[repairguy]

Yes you ordered the correct basket drive and you definitely need new bearings and seals. The whirlpool part number is 285134.

 

[bazzybtec]

ok i have ordered the bearing and seal kit 285134.
however i don't immediately see where these bearings go.

is the old one in the shaft somehow? how do i remove the old one and install the new one?

also looking at my old one there seems to be a seal missing on the 4th photo above going by the diagrams i have come across there should be a seal there however it seems to be missing. i am guessing the black junk on the old basket drive could be whats left of it.

the kit seems to come with two metal rings that i am guessing to be the bearing. do they both get used?

 

[DADoES]

 
Bearings (upper and lower, with seals) are inside the tub centerpost to support the spin tube.  There was a remover tool, otherwise find a way to pound them out.  There's also a tool to install the new centerpost bearings into proper position, otherwise you have to devise some other way to do that.  Lubrication (turbine oil) of the bearing cavities is required when reassembling the components.  The top centerpost seal is set in place after assembling and oiling.

There are also bearings inside the spin tube that support the agitator shaft.  I've not seen those sourced separately, they're already in place on a new spin tube.

Did anyone else notice the heating element in Pic 1 above?

 

[repairguy]

Yes I noticed the heating element. I forgot to mention that’s really cool.

There are several good posts on this site about rebuilding a whirlpool/kenmore belt drive washer. Just do a search on this site.

 

[bazzybtec]

unfortunately i believe the element has failed, it still gets hot when activated however it trips the earth leakage breaker so i would say there is water ingress. I have it disconnected at the moment. I will probably put the mega on it to confirm its condition.

I am trying to find the tool to remove it but having trouble as i don't even know what it should look like.

a google search this comes up
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1442331...dE9yiD6OCKRcr4bjXnN_sn7dJBVgrt88aAoy6EALw_wcB

but that may be for a new style washer.

 

[DADoES]

 
Your link is for a SmartDrive-design Cabrio, completely different design.

Photo 1 = bearing puller & installer tools; removal of lower centerpost bearing.

Photo 2 = (cutaway) install upper & lower bearings, done simultaneously with the one tool.

 

[bazzybtec]

ok i am unable to find that tool available anywhere. is there any other way of getting that bearing out?

It seems that there is one at the top and at the bottom so there is no way of getting anything inside the space that will be wide enough to pull it out.

the inserter looks easy enough to make something up.

 

[combo52]

Removing WP BD Center Post Bearings

I have almost never used the remover tool even though I have at least 4 of them.

 

We just use an old agitator shaft and insert it in the center post and take a heavy hammer and pound the old bearing and seals out, did hundreds of rebuilds this way over the years.

 

The installer tool is much more useful however, but you can also devise ways to pound the bearings in if you are careful.

 

John L.

 

[DADoES]

 
Yes, the service where I worked, we used an old agitator shaft from a transmission to pound the old bearings out, but an installer tool to set-in the new bearings.

 

[bazzybtec]

Could a large spindle of washers of varying sizes on a threaded rod be used in place of this installation tool? then use a nut welded to a metal brace that can go across the tube at the top be used so as you turn the threaded shaft it pulls tighter pulling the bearing into place.

 

[DADoES]

 
There's an oil seal that fits beneath the upper bearing, and both bearings are intended to be at specific depth positions in the centerpost.  The installer tool mandrels are formed accordingly to set the bearings and seal.

Note also that the full interior of the centerpost is to be wire-brushed/cleaned before installing the new bearings so there's no residual debris to fall onto the lower bearing.

Perhaps you should search for service documentation on the procedure if you don't already have it.

 

[bazzybtec]

ok so i really need the proper tool to do the installation.

I am probably better to not pull out the old bearings if i don't have access to the tool to put the new ones in correctly.

I also don't have the service procedure for replacing the bearings. I was unable to obtain them either. all i could fins was for modern machines and they are different

 

[DADoES]

 
Some information is e-mailed to you, perhaps will be helpful.

 

[bazzybtec]

Just an update and further question here. how critical is it these bearings get replaced? i have ordered them but it looks like the seller has done the runner with my money as they claimed they have sent yet its not marked as sent and when i asked for the tracking number they have ghosted me.

If i clean up the junk out of that spin tube using some de greaser then lubricate the new spin shaft with grease would those bearings be ok or would they really need to be replaced?

I have tried to source locally but they are not available here and if i order another set from USA it will be another month sitting there in pieces.

 

[repairguy]

It is imperative that the bearings and seals be replaced with a new basket drive if you want to use this machine for any specific amount of time.