Spokane residents smuggling "good" dishwasher detergents in from out of state

[ronhic]

Xraytech

Sam,

You're 22 years old!

How 'set in your ways' can you possibly be?

I suggest that you have a good look around you at the crisis that are emerging around the globe be it water shortages, pollution, fossil fuels, increased pollution in rivers, lakes and oceans and global warming in general and then hand-over-heart comment that you are 'set in your ways'....i.e. not prepared to do a thing to help.

Nobody is saying that you can't still use your favourite appliances or, as far as I am concerned, favourite detergents. What goads people is that you appear unprepared to do anything.

How about recycling the final rinse water out onto your lawn or pot plants/flower beds?

As for 'burning pits', the chances are, if it is burnable, it is recyclable....consider rinsing out cardboard containers/tins/bottles (use that rinse water from the washer!) and put them in a big box in the boot of that huge car you say you have and drop them off at the recycling depot in town next time you are in there....

If everyone did at least SOMETHING rather than the nothing that you say you do (or don't do) the world would actually be a better and cleaner place.

 

[sudsman]

ATTITUDE:

Is the difference between somebody and nobody!

 

[iheartmaytag]

I try to be green where possible

BUT--if there is no good alternative detergents available. I would most certain smuggle.
There is nothing more frustrating that running a load and having dirty dishes in the washer when they are finished. I do not pre-soad, or pre-rinse because that's the dishwahser's job.

If this ban was to go nationwide. How long will detergent store and still be good?

I see that they authorities suggested installing a water softner. Did I read somewhere that mechanical water softening causes pollution as well with all the salt that is released?

 

[launderess]

Try to be "green" where possible, but not to the point in increases my housework load and or endangers health.

Case in point, tried Ecover's rinse aid, thinking it was a good choice in the dishwasher because it was "green" and wouldn't leave any sort of chemical residue. Well no matter what one did, there was always "yibbles" left on dishes. Tried adding STPP to the wash (which caused etching of my glassware), and even adding an extra rinse,which increased water use. Finally gave up and went back to JetDry, mainly because local supermarket had the lot on special as it was being discontinued. Now my dishes are clean, and dry for the most part totally without using the heated dry cycle. With the Ecover rinse aid, often there would be drops of water on bowls, silverware and such.

L.

 

[ronhic]

Launderess....

I agree...

I would rather use a good not so green product sparingly and know that it works than a 'green' product at a higher rate which negates half the benefit...

 

[supersuds]

"If this ban was to go nationwide. How long will deterg

It is going nationwide. The article states that the detergent manufacturers have made an "irrevocable, nationwide commitment."

I wouldn't recommend tablets -- I've had them get so hard it took a hammer to pulverize them; they'd just go through all the cycles and look good as new! Powders will last a long time, but they can get hard fairly quickly especially in humid storage. I imagine either a liquid or perhaps the Electrasol/Finish gelpacs would keep a long time.

The problem is the same as when phosphates were eliminated from most laundry detergents in the 1990s: You can stock up, as I tried to, but eventually, you run out and are in the same boat as everyone else.

 

[launderess]

Depending Upon Water Hardness

One really only needs a small amount of phosphates per wash load, so in theory a good sized stash should last quite a long time.

Am still trying to work through five pounds of STPP purchased from the Chemistry Store, well over a year ago now. Took well over a year and one-half (maybe two years), to go through a box of vintage Amway "water softening powder" , which is a blend of phosphates.

 

[moonvalleycacti]

I have a $33 box of miele dishwasher tabs under my sink, along with those new Finish/Electrosol tabs and Cascade GEL packs. SO far the Finish ones are best, but only one load has been run with the miele ones..

What does any one know about the miele tabs?

 

[rayjay]

Miele Tabs

Chuck, When visiting the Miele showroom in Princeton, NJ last year, there were free samples of the tabs. I took a pocket full. The tabs really do a nice job. I am thinking of ordering some.

Ray

 

[iheartmaytag]

Yes but. . .

If I had say a three or four year stash hidden away, maybe they would have something useful on the market by the time I ran out.

 

[danemodsandy]

This Story Has Hit...

...The Drudge Report, which will give it a lot more visibility. What will be interesting is how the reaction plays out. Will manufacturers and gummint folks realise that they have a lot of work to do before the new phosphate-free detergents are ready for prime-time (dishes not coming clean are a health hazard)? Will hoarding and smuggling increase? Will gummint decide to crack down on smugglers? Stay tuned...

 

[maytagbear]

In my experience,

powdered dishwasher detergent does not have more than a year's viability, even if it is kept in a cool and DRY place. Under the sink is a terrible place to keep it.

Lawrence/Maytagbear