While I know many top loaders had suds savers, were there ever any front loaders with this feature? Always been curious about this! Greg
Suds saving front loaders?
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That would be the answer in search of a question. Not only is the quantity of water used much smaller, but the soil concentration in the water much greater than a wash fill from a top loader as would be the waste dyes, probably making the wash liquor unsuitable for washing anything except rags and cleaning cloths .
The closest a tumbler washer came to reusing wash water was the design where the machine was a horizontal tank with a rotating basket, a cover over the tank and a wringer at one end. Some were known as "Cabinet Washers." Maytag was among the manufacturers who offered one. These machines were among the transitional machines between wringer washers and cylinder washers from which the first automatic took its design. Along side these machines were machines like the 1910 Cataract which was a boat-shaped tank with a ribbed bottom. Laundry, soap and hot water was placed in the tank, the lid closed and the motor started which caused the tank to rock side to side. After the washing, the load was removed and put through the wringer then the next load was put in the machine. All of these machines used more wash water than the early front loaders, however. One of the points raised by the testing magazines about the Bendix Automatic Home Laundry was the amount of hot water required versus the hot water heating capacity in the average home. Washing machine manufacturers who did not offer suds saving devices countered that each load was washed and rinsed in fresh, clean water.
That would be the answer in search of a question. Not only is the quantity of water used much smaller, but the soil concentration in the water much greater than a wash fill from a top loader as would be the waste dyes, probably making the wash liquor unsuitable for washing anything except rags and cleaning cloths .
The closest a tumbler washer came to reusing wash water was the design where the machine was a horizontal tank with a rotating basket, a cover over the tank and a wringer at one end. Some were known as "Cabinet Washers." Maytag was among the manufacturers who offered one. These machines were among the transitional machines between wringer washers and cylinder washers from which the first automatic took its design. Along side these machines were machines like the 1910 Cataract which was a boat-shaped tank with a ribbed bottom. Laundry, soap and hot water was placed in the tank, the lid closed and the motor started which caused the tank to rock side to side. After the washing, the load was removed and put through the wringer then the next load was put in the machine. All of these machines used more wash water than the early front loaders, however. One of the points raised by the testing magazines about the Bendix Automatic Home Laundry was the amount of hot water required versus the hot water heating capacity in the average home. Washing machine manufacturers who did not offer suds saving devices countered that each load was washed and rinsed in fresh, clean water.
Thanks Tom for answering my questions! I'd never thought about the level of dirt in saved water... Thanks for the history lesson about those first "Cabinet Washers, too! This is WHY AW is here! Greg
kenmoreguy89
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Indesit I recall.
Yes! Some Indesit models had a tank above the machine where you could store hotv soapy wash water into.
Then you removed the plug and let the water drain inside the machine for a next load.
The machine would eventually adjust the water level and you may have been required to add a bit of detergent more.
Vintage FL's machines used much more water and were much more quicker.
So it made a lot of sense. IMO
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Yes! Some Indesit models had a tank above the machine where you could store hotv soapy wash water into.
Then you removed the plug and let the water drain inside the machine for a next load.
The machine would eventually adjust the water level and you may have been required to add a bit of detergent more.
Vintage FL's machines used much more water and were much more quicker.
So it made a lot of sense. IMO
[this post was last edited: 5/8/2021-13:31]
kenmoreguy89
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At 1:31 a brief view of the sudsaving system.
kenmoreguy89
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kenmoreguy89
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My Malleys Automatic 12 came with a suds save option.
It was essentially a laundry tub with two drain holes. One was plumbed to the drain, the other was hard plumbed back into the washer tank. All water drained into the wash tub, being for wash and three rinses. At the end of the first cycle, you pulled the plug out out and let enough water run back in until the drum was half full.
You can see the black rubber protrusion on the left. This is where the suds return would connect to
The PDF of the patent is in the URL[this post was last edited: 5/8/2021-17:16]
It was essentially a laundry tub with two drain holes. One was plumbed to the drain, the other was hard plumbed back into the washer tank. All water drained into the wash tub, being for wash and three rinses. At the end of the first cycle, you pulled the plug out out and let enough water run back in until the drum was half full.
You can see the black rubber protrusion on the left. This is where the suds return would connect to
The PDF of the patent is in the URL[this post was last edited: 5/8/2021-17:16]
