Finally I remove the timer, you can see the suction release valve that is built right into the timer. When extract is over the rubber seat is lifted and air is sent through this tube into the tub to release the pressure.
Taking Apart a Bendix Economat
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With the parts machine done I now filled the other Bendix with water (the one that I've had for 10 years) to see where it was leaking from. Unforutnately it was from the rubber tub. In pulling out the tub I discovered that under the metal plate it has all sorts of detergent residue on it as well as at the bottom of the tub. I'm soaking them now in hot water and will scrub all of that off, hopefully that will make for a good seal again.
More to come when that task is completed.
More to come when that task is completed.
macboy91si
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Vacuum
The idea of a vacuum bladder washer is neat. Thanks for the detailed shots of a neat, rare machine. How durable are these rubber tubs with normal use? I know they would be susceptible to puncture, but the actual rubber on the one you removed seemed in good shape. Does your tub read "Goodyear" around the rim? Thanks -Tim
The idea of a vacuum bladder washer is neat. Thanks for the detailed shots of a neat, rare machine. How durable are these rubber tubs with normal use? I know they would be susceptible to puncture, but the actual rubber on the one you removed seemed in good shape. Does your tub read "Goodyear" around the rim? Thanks -Tim
RUBBER TUB BENDIX
Neat to see you working on this washer, I was playing with ours last weekend, if you need any parts for these I have a box of used parts for these, sorry no good tubs. I had never seen the earlier water pump before I wonder what it looks like inside?. The later round pump was not a Bendix built pump either but rather a Gorman-Rupp pump almost the same one used in the 1956-1958 33" WP built KM & WP combos.
Neat to see you working on this washer, I was playing with ours last weekend, if you need any parts for these I have a box of used parts for these, sorry no good tubs. I had never seen the earlier water pump before I wonder what it looks like inside?. The later round pump was not a Bendix built pump either but rather a Gorman-Rupp pump almost the same one used in the 1956-1958 33" WP built KM & WP combos.
supremewhirlpol
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Oh this is what I've been waiting for!!! Do you have any videos? Nice machines Robert!!
Rubber Tub
Hi Robert, such a simple design, was fascinated seeing it in action (well listening to the sounds!!!) with you in 2001, always wondered how the insides would look, great show...
Just how thick is the rubber tub?? your first model seems to have a darker coloured tub and a more supple appearance, is this grey one thicker??
Happy fixing, Mike
Hi Robert, such a simple design, was fascinated seeing it in action (well listening to the sounds!!!) with you in 2001, always wondered how the insides would look, great show...
Just how thick is the rubber tub?? your first model seems to have a darker coloured tub and a more supple appearance, is this grey one thicker??
Happy fixing, Mike
Very cool tear down Robert. I've always thought that Bendix copied Maytag's Model E transmission for these. They look similar, have a similar splined agitator shaft, and internally are quite alike. They must have been different enough that the boys in Newton didn't cry fowl.
Hopefully the tub is good from the parts machine that it can be used in the later Bendix. The Crosley though, that's where the money is!
Those weird screws - they're Gulmite screws. Maytag used them for the same application, and I've also seen Bendix use them on the Duomatic door hinges.
Ben
BTW - thought you'd enjoy this sheet discussing the date stamp for the General rubber tubs.
Hopefully the tub is good from the parts machine that it can be used in the later Bendix. The Crosley though, that's where the money is!
Those weird screws - they're Gulmite screws. Maytag used them for the same application, and I've also seen Bendix use them on the Duomatic door hinges.
Ben
BTW - thought you'd enjoy this sheet discussing the date stamp for the General rubber tubs.
jamman_98
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Theory on the Odd Rubber Valve
I believe the odd valve is for letting excess air out of the top. If the clothes are being squeezed out there might be some excess air that needs to come out. To prevent the round top from losing it's seal on the tub, the valve would let off the pressure. Like a safety valve.
Just a thought
Joe
jamman_98
I believe the odd valve is for letting excess air out of the top. If the clothes are being squeezed out there might be some excess air that needs to come out. To prevent the round top from losing it's seal on the tub, the valve would let off the pressure. Like a safety valve.
Just a thought
Joe
jamman_98
This is alot of fun to see such a unique machine being taken apart, I look forward to seeing the rest of the process.
Yep, Mike remembder we stood there and wtche3d it wash (reminded me so much of a Maytag) and then listened to it ha ha ha. Just think you experienced 1140 rpm Unimatics and a rubber tub Bendix all in one weekend. Talk about extremes.
300c
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My Next Door Neighbor Had One of These
Robert, fascinating! I remember when I was a young lad in the early 1960s that my next door neighbor had a 1951 Bendix top loader with the rubber tub that squeezed the clothes rather than spinning them. She used to let me look it over. She had bought it new and had to replace it around 1966. She traded it in for a BOL GE Filter-Flo.
I hope you can make some videos of these machines.
Robert, fascinating! I remember when I was a young lad in the early 1960s that my next door neighbor had a 1951 Bendix top loader with the rubber tub that squeezed the clothes rather than spinning them. She used to let me look it over. She had bought it new and had to replace it around 1966. She traded it in for a BOL GE Filter-Flo.
I hope you can make some videos of these machines.
Thanks Robert fo all the pictures. This sure brings back memories of my grandmothers. Hers was a semi=automatic that you had to fill with a hose attached to the sink faucet. She had hers from about 1951 until the mid 60's when my grandfather left a nail in a pocket and it runined th tub and they were not able to get another. They bought a MOL Whirlpool. I can still hear it running in my mind.
Bendix!
Thank you Robert for posting - this brings back a lot of memories when I was a tot my grandparents neighbors had one. I liked the sounds it made and I look back and have many fond memories of this machine! Best Of Luck with the restore!
Peter
Thank you Robert for posting - this brings back a lot of memories when I was a tot my grandparents neighbors had one. I liked the sounds it made and I look back and have many fond memories of this machine! Best Of Luck with the restore!
Peter
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Seeing that rubber tub is really cool! Never really could visualize what it looked like out of the tub.
Im sure it will be like new when you finish it!
Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Im sure it will be like new when you finish it!
Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Just how thick is the rubber tub?? your first model seems to have a darker coloured tub and a more supple appearance, is this grey one thicker??
Hey Mike, actually its pretty thick rubber. All of the rubber tubs I have are in generally good shape, I'm thinking it was leaking between the rubber and hold down plate.
Thanks Ben for the date stamp info, that is cool! The early parts machine tub is a B and the later one is a D. The Crosley is a Good Year tub.
I believe the odd valve is for letting excess air out of the top.
Joe that is a really good theory, makes sense to me.
Hey Mike, actually its pretty thick rubber. All of the rubber tubs I have are in generally good shape, I'm thinking it was leaking between the rubber and hold down plate.
Thanks Ben for the date stamp info, that is cool! The early parts machine tub is a B and the later one is a D. The Crosley is a Good Year tub.
I believe the odd valve is for letting excess air out of the top.
Joe that is a really good theory, makes sense to me.
mickeyd
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What I wouldn't give!
Either we kidnap Drew Cousteau with his underwater camera to Robert's so he can film the squeezing or we chip in and buy Robert his own to film the deep sea wonders, and then we'll have Nirvana right here in Earth before the Aliens come. The belly wiggles in mirth.
Either we kidnap Drew Cousteau with his underwater camera to Robert's so he can film the squeezing or we chip in and buy Robert his own to film the deep sea wonders, and then we'll have Nirvana right here in Earth before the Aliens come. The belly wiggles in mirth.
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Great pictures of the breakdown Robert.</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Thanks for taking the time to post them.</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">What an interesting machine!</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Brent</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Thanks for taking the time to post them.</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">What an interesting machine!</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Brent</span>
spankomatic
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<span style="font-size: medium;">Great photos,Robert. I'm curious... Does this machine have a filter? Looks like one might go down the agitator like a Maytag. It just has me wondering......</span>
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<span style="font-size: medium;">Jim</span>
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<span style="font-size: medium;">Jim</span>
easyspindry
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Bendix Economat
Thanks, Robert, for this fascinating tear-down of the Economat. There were several of these machines in my small hometown when I grew up. There was an earlier model with a slightly different lid and fill mechanism. That particular model had a red button in the handle of the top that had to be pressed to release the pressure before the lid could be opened.
On this earlier model, the fill faucet fit into a hole in the side of the dome, and the water ran through the dome and down through a hole in the center of the dome that had a valve that would plug and unplug the hole to maintain or release the pressure.
I never saw one of this model that worked properly.
I have always wondered what the guts of these machines looked like.
On the model you have, it always interested me that in the fill process, when hot water was selected, the water sort of oozed in from under the agitator. But when warm waster was selected, the water bubbled up through and out of the top of the agitator.
Such a shame that it is impossible to watch the extraction cycle.
You are a genius!!! Thanks for all the pictures. Can't wait to see the rest of the operation.
Jerry Gay
Thanks, Robert, for this fascinating tear-down of the Economat. There were several of these machines in my small hometown when I grew up. There was an earlier model with a slightly different lid and fill mechanism. That particular model had a red button in the handle of the top that had to be pressed to release the pressure before the lid could be opened.
On this earlier model, the fill faucet fit into a hole in the side of the dome, and the water ran through the dome and down through a hole in the center of the dome that had a valve that would plug and unplug the hole to maintain or release the pressure.
I never saw one of this model that worked properly.
I have always wondered what the guts of these machines looked like.
On the model you have, it always interested me that in the fill process, when hot water was selected, the water sort of oozed in from under the agitator. But when warm waster was selected, the water bubbled up through and out of the top of the agitator.
Such a shame that it is impossible to watch the extraction cycle.
You are a genius!!! Thanks for all the pictures. Can't wait to see the rest of the operation.
Jerry Gay
