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With the Kelvinator restoration done and splashing away, I’m ready and eager to tackle the next machine so I moved the 1956 Hotpoint into the workshop. Greg (Gansky1) found this washer about three years ago at an estate sale in Omaha and since we’ve given each other machines and he knew I wanted an earlier Hotpoint he was kind enough to give me this beautiful machine. When it was found it appeared to have been taken apart and put back together by some unknown person. I can get the machine to move the agitator back and forth, but the spin clutch which should completely disengage during agitation and engage during spin appears to be stuck half way between the agitate and spin position and makes a terrible “clickity-clacking” sound in either agitation or spin. So its time to go in and take everything apart and see exactly what is wrong. I’m not totally convinced that I’m going to be able to successfully make this washer run properly again, it all depends on what is wrong with the spin clutch. If all the parts are there, but they are assembled incorrectly, then I have a good chance. But if a specific clutch part is broken or worse yet missing I might be out of luck, because I have absolutely no mechanical parts (new, used or otherwise) for this very unusual Hotpoint except for a new pump.

The reason I say this is a very unusual washer is due to the history of Hotpoint Automatics, this design is from the #2 major Hotpoint automatic washer redesign and was only produced for a couple of years. Here is a quick rundown of the Hotpoint Automatic Washer history, all of the years are my best guess, I should be close, but I might be off by a year or so on a few. This information is not written in any one place but I have compiled it from my many readings over the years. If anyone has any further clarifications, revisions or additions they would be very welcomed.

Design #1 1949-1955 Hotpoint outsourced the production of their very first automatic washer to Beam (who also made the familiar Speed Queen design). Their first washer didn’t even have a spin clutch, they used two separate full sized motors of all things, one for agitate the other for spin! In ’50 or ’51 in their second washer model they kept the same similar design but began using the Beam “Fluid Drive” to drive the spin tub and got rid of that silly (and heavy) extra motor.

Design #2 1956-1957 (This is my machine pictured above). Hotpoint continued to use the Beam style transmission but created their very own, completely unique, spin clutch system. The machine used one single solenoid to shift from agitation to spin. When the timer called for agitation the solenoid was energized and it pulled down a lever that engaged the agitator shaft to the transmission and at the same time it used a spider disk the literally move the spin clutch shoes away from the clutch drum which prevented the tub from spinning. When the timer calls for spin, the solenoid is de-energized and a spring pulls the solenoid back up to the off position. This upward movement of the solenoid disengaged the agitator shaft from the transmission and at the same time moved the spider disk upward to allow the clutch shoes to press against the clutch drum and the tub started to spin. All this was done in one quick movement without a need to pause between agitation and spin.

Design #3 1958-1969 In 1958 it appears that Hotpoint completely discontinued outsourcing any of their washer parts to Beam/Speed Queen and completely made their own washer. They designed their own transmission called the “Co-Axial” transmission and once again redesigned their clutch, but unlike in previous models this clutch drove both agitation as well as spin. Their new transmission was now a reversing style in which the motor rotated it in one direction for agitation and the other direction for spin, which means the washer now needed to pause between the wash and spin. For the next ten years other non mechanical changes were incorporated, such as the lint-filter agitator in about ’64 and multiple cycle machines but the mechanics generally stayed the same.

Design #4 1969-1974 The same, pump, transmission, snubber, solid tub ect, were used for this new redesign except for the fact Hotpoint made a major change to the Clutch assembly. The clutch now incorporated a spin brake to bring the spinning tub to a complete stop within 10 seconds. This transmission was called the "Positive Brake Transmission", its the style of machine that Todd in New Orleans recently found. In some high-end models in the early 70’s, Hotpoint made their solid tub slightly larger referring to it as the Hotpoint “16”.

Design #5 1975-1995. Hotpoint completely discontinued producing its own washer and General Electric now produced washers for Hotpoint, using their perforated basket design. Except for some of the esthetics of the machine, a side opening lid and self cleaning filter ring as opposed to using GE’s filter-flo system the machines were essentially the exact same as the GE washers of the time.

Design #6 1996 to Today: We all know what GE started making in ’95 or ’96 so I wont even bother to mention it because, oh forget it, we all know why it doesn’t need mentioning.

Here is a link to the beginning of the restoration album...

 
I'm betting all the parts are there...but there was definitely a problem somewhere. When I found it, the previous owner started to take the machine apart and it appears as he got as far as removing the tub, gave up and went out to buy a new Maytag A606 washer in the early 70's. It will be very interesting to see what the problem was. Hopefully it will just need a hose clamp ;-)
 
Great Reading!

Robert,
Loved reading the history on the Hotpoints. I think that these machines are one of a kind!
I am more that sure that you will be able to find what the issue is, and fix it good as new. Your Hotpoint is in such excellent shape!
I was able to watch this very model run at Jimmy's (FilterFlo) house a year ago. I could not get over how quite the machine was. It was such a solid machine. Loved the way the actual case of the machine got hot when it went into spin due to the cabinet being the actual outer "drum" of the machine.
It is a one of a kind machine!
Thanks again for the pictures, and the education on Hotpoint!
Brent
 
Amazing about the Hotpoint designs! I know the '49 Hotpoint is one of the machines you're after; with the heavy two-motor system instead of a spin clutch shouldn't it last longer? I'm confused as to why these machines are so rare.

As for this one, it's BEAUTIFUL! And the rubber agitator fins are in great shape! As for the clickety-clacking, it seems that many older Hotpoints have spin clutch/brake problems, as you've mentioned about your '62 occasionally indexing during wash, and Todd has said that as well.

Good luck on the restoration!
 
Hotpoint!

This is some machine. The first washer I ever remember watching was a Hotpoint 55 that is in the most wanted (the one with the removeable lid). I am sure this baby runs very simular. I would love to test drive it.
Peter
 
This is the machine my Mom had when I was born. Robert, you must make a DVD once it's up and running. Love the unique Hotpoint timer and the red agitator.
Les
 
That really is a beautiful machine. The first Hotpoints I remember had that Red agitator but with-out the rubber tips---maybe a later year--don't know when they stopped the red agitator. My cousins mother had those that came later with the black agitator. She must have had three of them in rapid order as it seemed like every time I went to visit there was a different one! She is a very meticulous person, so I always thought there must have been something unreliable with Hotpoints. I loved the noise they mke when they throw the water out of the tub. Like a chooga-ghooga-chooga noise. Good luck with the repair---that should be a fun machine! -Steve
 
Gotta love those all porcelain inside and out vintage machines. They look brand new after 50 years! Good luck on the restoration! If anyone can figure it out, you can.
 
Work continues and gets even more challenging

Well my first task is to remove and examine the spin clutch. According to the repair master, all you need to do is loosen two set screws on the collar that holds that agitator shaft in place (underneath the machine) and pull out the agitator shaft from the top of the washer. Then you can easily remove the clutch assembly, without having to remove the motor and transmission or anything else for that matter. Well of course it wasn’t that easy, it rarely is with stuff this old. It appears that owner of the machine in their quest to “fix it” had used quite a bit of upward force on the agitator shaft and forced that collar right up into the clutch bearing! This pushed up the clutch bearing over 1/4” forcing the clutch plate and shoes downward and out of alignment. Worse yet, this prevented me from being able to access the set screws as they were now up into the clutch housing. So the only solution at this point was to take the entire machine apart working from below and pulling all the components including the agitator shaft out from the bottom of the machine. Good news is it appears that all the parts of the machine are there. The mystery still is why was he taking the machine apart in the first place??? I’m sure he had a good reason, unless you’re one of us, people normally do not take a washer apart for the fun of it.

Now I’m left with the main spin bearing housing under the outer tub, the outer tub boot and wash tub left in the washer. The wash tub is completely stuck to the main bearing housing shaft and I have to come up with some way of separating the two. Normally I would just torch the two and they should separate, but the top of the shaft is surrounded by rubber and I do not have a replacement. This is going to be the next and more serious challenge as I need to separate them without doing any damage to either part, wish me luck on this one.

 
Help is on the way!!

Robert I have just the stuff to loosen your tub from the bearing shaft! After restoring a 1958 Edsel I know what chemicals work and what do not. I'll call you tonight.

It has always been interesting to me growing up in a GE household in Schenectady and seeing first hand how GE worked from the inside why they ever let Hotpoint continue as long as it did with its own platform and not rebadge their own Filter Flo machines as Hotpoints.
 
Sounds like you've most likely found the cause of the clickity-clackity. If the clutch plate and screws are out of alignment and the collar pushed up into the plate it's no wonder it was making god-awful noises. Hopefully once you get it reassemebled correctly it will run smooth as silk. I'm still wondering what the heck that guy was trying to do.

I'm trying to oocate a photo taken of me around age 3 or 4 standing on a footstool and peering down into my mom's 56 Hotpoint while it washed. This machine was my intro to the world of top loading automatics - and a solid tub at that!

Les
 
Question on those old Hotpoints----

I remember seeing those old solid-tub straight vane agitator Hotpoints at the appliance store in the early 1960's and some of them had a shallow plastic disk---somewhat like a filter pan---but neither deep enough or perforated---so they must have been a dispenser of sorts??? Does anyone remember such a thing? I seem to remember the agitators were black but the little pans were either red or orange. Kind of like upside-down Frisbee's with a hole cut in to fit over the agitator! I also remember some kind of plastic ring/filter? that fit over the agitator of early 60's Whirly's, that did not have the "Magic-Mix Filter"! Anyone know anything about that? -Steve
 
Question on those old Hotpoints----

Steve
Those pans you are speaking of on the old hotpoints were for dispensering detergent. Actually as the machine was filling with water it would overflow the detergent from the dispenser into the tub. In my openion it was essentially useless!
The filter underneith did catch some lint but was no great shakes.
Peter
 

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