The Creda/Electra Mission.

[candyd10_14x]

Creda 1970s

Hey Hass!!

Thank you for bringing this thread back! Since I last posted on here I managed to save a Creda 275 from a neighbours garden and I also thought I'd share this story that I'm sure many won't believe me on...

I rmemeber I think matchboxpaul saying no one has seen a square door Creda in the 2000s or so...well back in 2010, I was 13 at a car boot sale in Rhyl, North Wales near Colwyn Bay. In the back of this van was I think a dishwasher and then at the time what I assumed was a Hoover A3110, upon closer inspection I saw the CREDA badge at thought "oh, I didn't know Creda did square doors like Hoover." it was sold. It wasn't until 4 years later when I read through the thread had I realised what I had seen!! It was a 10500 Super De Luxe Electronic model because I remember it had 2 knobs on it.....hope to God it's still surviving and maybe one day it'll surface on eBay....ohhhh the gruelling pain!!!

Well thank you for the pictures, do you have any on the Creda Debonair Microns with the slanted facia or from that range as I'd like to get to know a little about that 1980s range. No rush

Brandon.

 

[aquacycle]

Thanks for sharing these, Has. Creda were always an unusual brand where I lived. Lots of Creda dryers and spinners but only the odd Supaspeed dotted around. I never knew anyone with an older washer, so these are great to see

 

[thelaundrylab]

TI Creda...

Hello Brandon, I doubt anyone would have a reason not to believe you mate and I'm glad you got to see the 'square door' Creda. I'm sure it's on most people's bucket list of the machine 'to have' for their collection, but we shall wait patiently until it does.

As for your request, the one's I've uploaded are the current picture's that I have. I don't have much Creda Microns at the moment, but I do have the advert featuring Cliff Thorburn for the Creda Micron.

Chris... as we slowly piece together Creda's history, I think their was a pattern that may have been adopted through the years where Creda may have done better at 'Marketing & Selling' their dryers oppose to their washing machine's. They did not make many washing machine's until the mid to late 70s, which gives us an indication inside the record sleeve (70s memorabilia shown above) where Creda says;

"TI Creda are proud to present you with this album of million-seller recording artistes, as a way of thanking you for the part you have played in achieving a record of another kind. Last year you helped us to sell our one millionth tumble dryer. We believe this demonstrates in a realistic manner the importance of Creda within the home laundry market. The signs are encouraging that our policy of designing appliances to meet the needs of both retailer and customer alike is working well for another Creda product-washing machines. We look forward to celebrating the sale of the one millionth Creda washing machine on the not too distant future".

I'm wondering this could be the reason we haven't seen many Creda washing machines (especially the 70s Creda machine's) popping up the surface.[this post was last edited: 9/11/2016-07:31]

 

[thelaundrylab]

Creda late 80s...

Screen grab of what looks like a Creda Washer & Dryer, the start of the Supaspeed generation?

 

[slpj]

Creda One Thousand Electronic washing machine. Model 10700

Hello all.

I joined this specifically to tell you about my Creda One Thousand Electronic washing machine. Model 10700.

It was bought new by me, sometime back in the mid 1980s when it first came out. It was bought from Alders in Croydon, along with the reversair rear venting dryer, and a stacking kit to mount the dryer on the washer. Both are still in use, but the dryer is now installed in an understairs cupboard with an outside wall for the vent hose. I am amazed at quite how long both have lasted, and just how reliable they have been. Although, I did buy them specifically because back in the 1980's when I researched which washer and dryer buy, TI Creda had a truly excellent reputation for quality and reliablity. So perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at how well they have lasted.

The dryer is still pretty much perfect and in regular use. Sadly though, I now do have to replace the washing machine.

The washing machine still works perfectly too. The paper masking tape you can see on the front of it, is only because the enamel paint is beginning to lift in a couple of places, and the tape stops this spreading. But unfortunately the washer now has very noisy drum bearings, and one of the shock absorbing spring units/legs has almost had it( the other side is still perfect though). I am unable to find a new/replacement shock/spring unit, and the bearing replacement I can find, is poor quality compared to an original part. I know this because I fitted a replacement bearing including rubber seal, about 3 years ago, and it simply hasn't lasted. Hence I can't keep using it indefinitely in case the bearing collapses. So I'm going to buy a new washer.

But I can't bring myself to simply scrap this washing machine.

Is there anybody out there with a genuine replacement drum bearings and seal, and perhaps a left hand side(looking from the front that is) shock/spring leg? (I've included a picture of the spring unit from a post on here).

Would anybody perhaps be interested in this machine for themselves? I see from previous posts that there are some restorers here. My 10700 is in pretty good condition apart from the above items. I still have the original user manual instructions that came with it.

 

[supermaticjames]

Good evening Peter,

I've sent you an email. It would be my pleasure to restore this machine as this design with the chunky chrome door is one of my favourites! Courier on standby haha!

Kind regards,

James

 

[chestermikeuk]

Creda Washer & Dryer

Hi Peter a warm welcome to the madhouse, as you can see many of us are Creda enthusiasts through and through, a great pair of laundry appliances from the Great British Creda company of old and you have had the additional benefit of buying from a reputable last of a dying breed department store of old. Bought many of my appliances from Allders in Chester....

AS for the bearings what replacements did you use ? where they SKF bearings and seal ? or from Homespares or Qualtex etc..

We use an engineering firm that might be able to make up a gas / spring loaded strut, I will send an email to him tomorrow and let you know. If you then deceide to let the Credas go then you can be assured they will be looked after within the realms of the club !!

 

[slpj]

Hi chaps, thanks for the replies and the emails.

The bearings I bought were from Amazon in 2013 by a company called Uni-fit, at a cost of about £9 quid inc postage. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003FTGYHG/ref=pe_217191_31005151_3p_M3T1_dp_1 There's a review on there, but it wasn't me, and now they are out of stock there anyway.

The originals were SKF.

The replacements that came as a packaged set including the seal, were NTN, and looked good quality. I actually still have the original SKFs that I took out, and would be quieter than the NTN's that replaced them, so I've toyed with putting them back in.

What I think happened to the originals, is that the seal failed and water got into the bearings, but that was after 25 plus years of use. I think the same may have happened again, but this time in only about 3 years. So perhaps it's the seal causing the problem?

But anyway, I think that even if I can get the correct bearings and a suspension strut, I might prefer to have a new washer that won't need any attention for the next 15/20 years, which may well see me out. lol.

I stumbled on this site whilst searching for spares. Knowing that there really are people who conserve these is a nice thing. But I'll only be replacing the washer if I decide to do that, as a), the dryer works fine still, and b) there's sentimental value to both of them. If the washer wasn't playing up, I wouldn't consider replacing it.

I'll have a read of the emails and reply to you both.

 

[optima]

Creda Ti 1000

Creda One Thousand. Never ever would i have thought i would see one again.

 

[slpj]

Hello Creda TI 1000,

Yep, and it all works too, other than needing new drum bearings and a suspension leg, -- which are still just serviceable but really do need replacing. The suspension leg suffered becaue there was a water leak above it -- now fixed. I even have the original electric motor for it, that was replaced in error when the drum bearings went circa 3 years ago. I thought the noise was from the motor, so I sourced another -- new, but cheap from someone. But then found it wasn't the motor after all. Amateurs huh? lol. But anyway as a result, I have the original electric motor that could be refitted if the replacement ever fails.

Meanwhile, I've found a supply of bearings for it. Bearing boys sell them SKF 6004 and SKF6005. The seal I guess would be more of a problem to find, but I suspect that as the replacement has only been in for 3 years, it can be cleaned and re-used, if it had to be.

But I'm going to decide today if I should let someone else keep and preserve this machine. I hadn't realised that there were other people out there who not only appreciate these w/machines, but also collect and preserve them. As I don't have the space to keep it if I buy a new one, I suspect the best thing for me is to let it go to someone else. As I said, I'd hate to see it scrapped.

 

[thelaundrylab]

Hello Peter...

Welcome to the club, nice to see there are still Creda machines out there! If you do decide to replace your machine, there are a few guys here who will happily take it off your hands. With there magical hands, it could be nicely restored for others to enjoy and would be taken care off.

What ever you decide I'm sure it will be the right choice. Thanks for sharing your post with us and adding it to this thread.
Kind regards.

 

[slpj]

Hi there,

Thanks for the welcome.

I've decided the best thing is to accept an offer I've been made. I'll use the Creda to do a few last washes, and then it can go to a new home. I have to confess, I never thought I'd keep it so long, and be a little sad to see it go. But a lot happier knowing that it won't end up as no more than scrap metal. And if someone brings it back to tip top condition, I'll be even happier.

I'll upload a short vid of it spinning when I can find my photobucket password.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Peter.

Whoever it is who has agreed to take it on, you can rest assured it will continue to exist and no doubt be fully restored over time.

When I saw your addition to this thread (welcome by the way!) and saw it was a 10700 you own, it was a sense of 'finally, there is one out there still!'.

Thank you for joining the forum, letting us all know of its existence and giving people the opportunity to take it on, rather than handing it to the council for scrap.
Such good news.

Regards
Paul
p.s long may your 37405 Reversair continue to give good service to you but, as with the washer, when the time comes ..... give us all a nudge.

 

[slpj]

Creda 1000 in action

Here's a vid of my Creda 10700 working. Still going after all these years, albeit with noisey drum bearings and in need of a suspension leg.

The link is to my photobucket account and for some reason it only seems to play back via chrome or Iinternet explorer, but not firefox.

Also, the vid came out on it's side from my Camera, and I don't know how to rotate it.

http://vid1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/slaterlp/Creda/MVI_7766_zpswcaps48j.mp4

 

[supermaticjames]

Hi Paul,

I love that official photo! I'm not keen on the blue tiled top surface but I think that blue sink is quite nice. I'm not sure many people would want to install their washer and dryer in the bathroom but I suppose some homeowners may have been forced to find whatever space they could and that was the answer. I guess Creda are probably demonstrating how they can fit in different rooms too.

PS I hope you and Rob had a lovely Christmas!

James

 

[supermaticjames]

Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for sharing a video with us. It appears to be quite healthy apart from the obvious but manageable paint flaking issue and the need for a bearing change, overall it's done very well for its age and kudos to you for looking after it with much pride!

Kind regards,

James

 

[slpj]

One of my vices many people think, is that I take so much care of pretty well everything I get. When we got the Creda washer and dryer, I was pretty insistent on always cleaning it after use etc. Drove my mum nuts. lol. But on the other hand, I do tend to make things last almost forever. I'd probably be described these days as ocd. Me, I just think I'm careful with my things. Ha ha.

I'll add some more vids to my photo bucket later.

Meanwhile, while I still have it, my Creda 1000 sits next to my Creda Cachet double oven. And I have to say, this is a very good oven. The only thing that doesn't last long is the internal lamp. Other than that it's great.

But it won't look the same in there when the 1000 is gone, that's for sure.

So I'll have to keep looking in here to see any pics of it.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Creda

Wow, a full lineup of classics Peter, those cookers where built like tanks, I got mum a Creda Solarglow slot-in in 1986 and its only just given up the ghost a few years ago after cooking daily for a family of 6 and many parties & guests!! What was the original hob you had with it ?

Hi James, I think Creda where the most innovative with their advertising of the era, most Euro houses have their laundry appliances in the bathroom / utility... Creda certainly covered all bases and pushed boundaries, mind I would have to spray that stacking kit to match ha ha..

Paul, another great Creda advertisement, was this out of the mini Kitchen / Bathroom Ideal Homes book ? love how the design of the filter is so accessible in the fascia..

 

[slpj]

Nope sadly my hob is a bosch. I chose it because it's a 5 ring gas hob that sits in a 600mm gap. And I'm afraid to say, my new washing machine will be another german, a meile.

 

[slpj]

Rear view Creda 1000

Still has the original hoses.

And here's a vid -- poor quality I'm afriad -- of a last rinse(into hidden bucket) before final spin, with the back off. You can really hear the bearings in this one.

http://vid1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/slaterlp/Creda/MVI_7739_zpsceeoi8w7.mp4

 

[chestermikeuk]

Original Creda

Well after the Creda has given you the faithful service you have picked the only washing machine that will live above and beyond the Creda timeline, great choice Peter.

It looks just as interesting from the back, my Electra Creda version backplate is different, the vents reminded me of the Servis Quartz and the original hose (hopefully stays in one piece on moving} is very Hotpoint esque. Was the original motor the AEG model or the GEC version, the later motor in the video sounds very Hotpoint. Well you can e assured withyin the group it will have a good life for as many more years. Many thanks for sharing with us a piece of history Peter.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Creda Washer & Dryer

Mines due a new set of bearings, looking forward to getting that done this spring..those original motors are a powerhouse in their own time, very reliable.

 

[slpj]

This is a pic of the ID plate on what I thought was the original motor -- included as a spare.

I changed the original motor thinking it was responsible for the noise, before realising it was the drum bearings. But it says Hotpoint on it. I certainly don't ever remember it being changed before.

I don't have a picture of the motor that is actually on the machine now, but you may be right, it may be a hotpoint too. Did Hotpoint make most of the motors?

Unless in the mists of time, I've confused myself, and have put back the original motor, after realising it was ok after all.

I have found a note that I made about 3 years ago. I wrote -- "GEC BD6222" "W.138" "For Electronic control". "CatD 59039"

I can see now to satisfy myself, I'll have to pull the machine out and take a picture underneath it to see what the motor label is. Yup I think I'm feeling as old as the washing machine, -- my memory's going :-

 

[supermaticjames]

Hi Mike,

Totally agree with you on Creda's innovative advertising, they seemed to take their market research very seriously and try their best to stand out from the rest. What's caught my eye is the fact that Creda offered programme 8 (silks) on all of their machines whereas most other UK manufacturers only offered this programme on their microprocessor controlled machines. Perhaps this was to allow their machines to be readily exported to markets where silks were more common as even in the 1990s a silk programme was usually reserved for more expensive machines. Thank you for posting a picture of your Electra badged Creda without the back panel, they certainly look like well planned and well engineered machines with ease of access for repairs.

Peter, thanks again for posting another video of the machine, it sounds like nothing I've heard before and I agree it sounds like it may have a GEC motor in it. GEC owned Hotpoint and manufactured the motors for their washers. However, being the large company that GEC was, they also supplied Servis with motors in the 1980s and it really wouldn't surprise me if Creda bought in motors from GEC as well as AEG depending on supplier stock levels.

James

 

[slpj]

Bored with new years celebrations, I've seen it all before. LOL.

So I'll ask a couple of questions -- for someone to answer tomorrow when sober

In Mike's picture, there are what appear to be two water traces, coming from the arrow points I've marked in RED. The rear of the drum case looks exactly the same as mine.

When I changed the bearings circa 3 years or so ago, I noticed there were two holes at those arrow points, that go right through into the just below where the bearing seal sits. On mine, those holes were blocked up. So I left them blocked, and the bearings have since failed again.

The other day, so that I can make use of the machine until my replacement arrives, I put back old bearings, which though noisy are useable.

This time I unblocked those holes.

So the questions I have are, what are those holes for, and would they cause bearing failure if they were blocked?

 

[supermaticjames]

Hi Peter,

Those holes are for allowing any water ingress into the bearing housing to drain out. At the best of times they don't help much at all as any water ingress usually makes its way into the bearings anyway and destroys them over time. I've noticed too that a lot of replacement bearing seals actually close off these holes.

I'm sure the One Thousand will give you good service in its final week with you.

James

 

[slpj]

Thanks James. That explains it then.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Thought it sounded a bit Hotpointy

Hi all and happy new year!

As others have mentioned, Hotpoint provided their motors to a number of other manufacturers, as did Hoover for the matter (I think in the 70's they provided them to Servis).

The bathroom image I posted was from an interior design book and, for a while, served as one of only a handful of images of the 10700 on the internet. Since then, mainly thanks to digitised catalogues bought off ebay, there are a few more good images of this model out there ....

 

[matchboxpaul]

images of the 10800 are very rare though ....

 

[matchboxpaul]

rarer in fact than images of the fabled 12000 Microelectronic ....