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Well I took a little break from working on the Kelvinator to finish up my Forbiden-Cycle Plexiglass project for my KD-15 KitchenAid Dishwasher...

Yay for Plexiglass...
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Installed in Door...
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Starting to Fill...
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The Pressure is Building...
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Full Washing Power!...
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And since I know you guys and gals are just dying to see this live, I made a video for all to see, right click and save target as (4mb)...

Hydro-Sweep EXPOSED
 
FRIGGIN FABOU !!!!!

I am so Excited !! I have not saw the video yet,

but just know it is gonna be FRIGGIN FABOU !!!!!

Robert you are the best....... THANKS !!!!! Tom
 
That was super Robert!

Robert,
Thanks so much for that fantastic treat! It was also great to see a picture of you.
You are really getting good with the plexiglass cutting! It worked great!
One question...Does the Hydrosweep turn even faster when there is a full load,loaded?
I just love the sounds!
Thanks once again.
Brent
 
That is really awesome! How did you rig the light? I need the dimensions so I can do the same thing with mine! Must be great fun to watch. Thanks for the photos! -Steve
 
Thanks everyone, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Brent I can’t take credit for cutting this Plexiglas door myself. I did make two attempts at first and both ended up to be a disaster. Lets just say after I tried each one I had a very clean kitchen floor after mopping up the mess. So I decided to go to Target and buy a big piece of poster board and cut out a template in the exact shape of the interior of the dishwasher well. I took the cutout to “Idyllic Acrylics” and they cut a perfect clear door and extruded it out one inch so it would clear the racks as they stick out of the well about 3/4”.

Steve, I rigged up the light using a rubber weather proof light socket and a coated 75 watt “Tuff-Bulb” both of which are available at Home Depot.

Here is a shot doing the first real load of dishes tonight. After the two pre-rinse cycles I pulled the door open just enough to pop in an Electrosol Gel-Pac.

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Robert that is one cool dishwasher! LOVED the video--that spray arm moves FAST!!! YAY!

You had to laugh...after my Monitor tabletop washer arrived, I didn't realize you had to fill it up to the water line. I filled it halfway up the pulsator, and...well, let's just say I cleaned the cabinets, counter, and floor all at the same time!
 
Electro-Sol Gel paks

I hope you had better luck with the Electra-Sol Gel paks than I did in my '62 KM 600 TL DW. Besides the act that the dispenser design is not suited for them, it left a milky film over everything that looked like a hard water film. Scared me at first since it wouldn't wash off. Fortunately, it came off after I re-washed the load using Cascade. Called Reckitt & Colman who sent me coupons for a lot of their products. Currently using the powder Electra-Sol and it seems to work just fine.
 
Since these machines have no noise insulation you can really hear the water sweeping abound the tub. I can remember early on, hearing the water surge around in my parents old K-Aid. I kind of got the impression then that the spray arm did not turn too fast,but put out a very powerful spray. We used to pack it full and it always cleaned everything right the first time! Georgedon commented that he did not see how water could reach the things on the upper rack with the lower one loaded with pots and dishes, but it did and it got it all clean ---with that one spray arm!. Thanks to GregM I have a '65 Superba I can't wait to get hooked up. (I am remodeling the kitchen).Maybe I will be able to figure out Roberts' system for a little "Superba" entertainment! -Steve
 
See it wash!

Fun video. I wonder if wash arm velocity is proportional to cleaning ability, depending on the make...? Would a Frigidaire Hydrosweep work better if slowed?

Will this video make it to the
 
The light is simply attached to a cord which is run out under the bottom edge of the plexiglas door and plugged into a wall socket. There is no switch on it and it is just meant to be temporary only used when I'm using the clear door.
 
Consulting KA Doctrine...

I've been reading the manuals for some of the KA models lately and found some interesting stats. Here's a bit of a summary for those interested in wash arm water volume and jet velocity, and some KA/Hobart milestones in the domestic lines.

KD-10 10/49 - 4/55 Cast Iron wash arm 40 gpm at 60 rpm

KD-11 4/55 - 4/57 Cast Iron wash arm 40 gpm at 60 rpm

KD-12 4/57 - 8/60 Improvements to rack designs, wash systems same as prev.

KD-14 8/60 - 12/64 Same stats for washing systems but now 3 models in this series with updated look for new "Superba" and "Imperial" models.

KD-15 12/64 - 3/68 HydroSweep wash arm 40 gpm at 52 rpm sani-cycle on Superba w/180F final rinse. All models have pump drains standard.

KD-16 3/68 - 5/71 Same washing stats but more cycles added and later in the series, the first Soak cycle and Party Cycles are offered.

KD-17 5/71 - 7/76 HydroSweep arm; 40 gpm at 45 rpm, 10 psi at each jet with constant rinse at top of tank. 16 position upper rack which was removable for washing very large items

KD-18 7/76 - 7/79 3 level wash system; first 50 gpm pump delivers 32 gpm to HydroSweep arm, 16 gpm to center arm, both moving at 35 rpm in opposing directions and 2 gpm to constant rinse above upper rack. "Patrician" model intro'd.

KD-19 7/79 - 2/81 Infamous Energy Saver system; 150F heated cycles but no heated drying. Improved center wash arm to reach corners of upper rack.

KD-20 2/81 - 3/84 Heated drying returns! Sani-cycle has 165F final rinse temp. Sure-Temp heats the first fill and during any phase using detergent.

KD-21 3/84 - 86-87? Major pump improvements, true waste disposal system, 7 decibels quieter than KD-17 series machines.
 
I have to say one thing about the WP/KA relation....At least WP stayed with the Hobart design for nearly ten years before they morphed it into what it is to day.Such a shame. It only seems like a few years ago,you could walk into a showroom,and the boldnesss of a KA dw would just drip quality,heavy chrome and the look of just plain durability all over it.It sucks what we have to pay for now
 
KA constant rinse above upper rack

Hi,

When did KA remove the "constant rinse above upper rack" To me that was a very stupid mistake. We bought an Energy saver Superba in 1983 and it did was exceptionaly well but we would get as we called sand stuck in some of the concave bottoms of things in the upper rack. But as you said they were built like trucks. In 1997 when the motor burned out we decided not te replace it with another very exspensive but cheaply built KA. SOn't laugh but we bought a Frigidaire Gallery and it actually does a far superior job at wahing

Mike
 
It looks that Electrolux has improved the quality of Frigidaire
somewhat.I like the current dw's from Frigidaire. Three way lower wash arm and direct feed middle arm.The plastic tub seems to be of better quality than what WP is using in their tall tub machines.
 
Electrolux

Hi Agiflow
Actually I dont realy know how much a improvement Electrolux made. The newer machines are impressive with the 3 way arm and all these other things. But time will tell if they are quarlity machines. I still love my GE tall tub.
Peter
 
Consulting KA Doctrine...

My mom had the kds 19 series (KD-19 7/79 - 2/81 Infamous Energy Saver system; 150F heated cycles but no heated drying. Improved center wash arm to reach corners of upper rack.)

In fact only 4 months ago she replaced it. Cleaned very well but cycle time long. If you didn't use jetdry the drying performance wasen't great. They could have done a better job with the design and long water heating pauses. But todays machines run a long time also.

She now has GE tall tub like myself and likes the DW - but states that the KA was built like a tank. And yes where ever
you go you cannot get a solid built DW like that.

It's sad that the newer KA's are not great performers!

Peter
 

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