murando531
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I don't know why I even log on to this site anymore.
The Great Washing Machine Scam
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Jerome, Thank you! I 100% agree with that guy- minus the choice of a few adjectives.
I feel his rage, I understand it in full. I truly wish every single consumer was like him. The world would be a far better place. I also wish China or some other rogue players would begin producing expired patents or simple put a novel yet durable design into production altogether. If everyone was like me that company would take off and modern appliance makers (except Alliance) would lose all sales.
I feel his rage, I understand it in full. I truly wish every single consumer was like him. The world would be a far better place. I also wish China or some other rogue players would begin producing expired patents or simple put a novel yet durable design into production altogether. If everyone was like me that company would take off and modern appliance makers (except Alliance) would lose all sales.
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His rage is understandable. I'd try to keep it clean of the profane language, but I get that he is trying to get his point across. This is where we are now, except with Speed Queen Laundry.
His rage is understandable. I'd try to keep it clean of the profane language, but I get that he is trying to get his point across. This is where we are now, except with Speed Queen Laundry.
I don't think the reliability of (front load) washing machines sold here in the UK has changed much over the years, I don't think it has ever been more than about 10 years on average. If you want one that's likely to last a fair bit longer, you'd expect to pay a lot more money for a premium machine like a Meile.
I'd normally expect the rubber seal around the shaft to start leaking after about 8 - 10 years, letting water get to the bearings and wash out the grease. Which is usually terminal since most people will be reluctant to fork out for the high cost of repair on a machine that is already 10 years old, or want to put up with the inconvenience of waiting at home for a repairman to show. Before machines had effective out of balance detection, people would keep on using them till the rumbling and vibration got too much to bear, or something broke.
My mum used to have a repairman out quite often fixing her first couple of machines. Mostly trivial faults such as the fill valves not working, thermostat, and most commonly the water level pressure sensor, or its air chamber or pipe blocked. I'd usually only find out the machine had gone wrong after it had been fixed when I'd get home from school and see the old part that had been left behind on top of it. I used to take them apart as I was curious how the worked and would clean them up to get them working again and keep one as a spare. Never got to use any, not even after I started repairing more significant faults, because she'd never let me know it was broken.
Unlike the guy in the rant, while it used to be a problem, I've not had a solenoid valve on ours fail with a blocked pinhole or for any other reason for getting on for nearly 40 years now.
I'd normally expect the rubber seal around the shaft to start leaking after about 8 - 10 years, letting water get to the bearings and wash out the grease. Which is usually terminal since most people will be reluctant to fork out for the high cost of repair on a machine that is already 10 years old, or want to put up with the inconvenience of waiting at home for a repairman to show. Before machines had effective out of balance detection, people would keep on using them till the rumbling and vibration got too much to bear, or something broke.
My mum used to have a repairman out quite often fixing her first couple of machines. Mostly trivial faults such as the fill valves not working, thermostat, and most commonly the water level pressure sensor, or its air chamber or pipe blocked. I'd usually only find out the machine had gone wrong after it had been fixed when I'd get home from school and see the old part that had been left behind on top of it. I used to take them apart as I was curious how the worked and would clean them up to get them working again and keep one as a spare. Never got to use any, not even after I started repairing more significant faults, because she'd never let me know it was broken.
Unlike the guy in the rant, while it used to be a problem, I've not had a solenoid valve on ours fail with a blocked pinhole or for any other reason for getting on for nearly 40 years now.
What Reply #30 said.
When you mass produce posts, people will soon loose interest.
Always better to have quality posts, not quantity.
But it seems, Jerome and Chetlaham don’t seem to really understand. They keep on going at it, which in turn, pushes people away and discourages intelligent conversations and interactions with one another.
Jerome and Chetlaham can argue all they want with me, but one thing is for sure, they don’t have the mechanical experience as I do as well as many others on the site. Doesn’t make sense to argue with people who have more experience working on the older machines (can have experience despite being older or younger), Jerome and Chetlaham probably haven’t even done any major repairs let alone dismantled something for a rebuild/refurbishment.
When you mass produce posts, people will soon loose interest.
Always better to have quality posts, not quantity.
But it seems, Jerome and Chetlaham don’t seem to really understand. They keep on going at it, which in turn, pushes people away and discourages intelligent conversations and interactions with one another.
Jerome and Chetlaham can argue all they want with me, but one thing is for sure, they don’t have the mechanical experience as I do as well as many others on the site. Doesn’t make sense to argue with people who have more experience working on the older machines (can have experience despite being older or younger), Jerome and Chetlaham probably haven’t even done any major repairs let alone dismantled something for a rebuild/refurbishment.
Sean, me and Jerome have cooled it. We haven't posted in 4 days. Yet here you are still bringing us up into the equation.
I posted washer dampening straps. You called them car suspension components in Reply 89:
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?91869_92~1
Given your mechanical experience I'm sure you knew that as well. So I can only conclude my knowledge or experience isn't the actual point of doubt or contention.
I posted washer dampening straps. You called them car suspension components in Reply 89:
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?91869_92~1
Given your mechanical experience I'm sure you knew that as well. So I can only conclude my knowledge or experience isn't the actual point of doubt or contention.
Should have cooled and toned it down a long, long time ago.
Speaking of scams, you have scammed yourself out of TIME. Just think what you could have done with that time instead of dwelling on something that’s neither here nor there.
Speaking of scams, you have scammed yourself out of TIME. Just think what you could have done with that time instead of dwelling on something that’s neither here nor there.
Scammed? LOL!
I LOVE fantasizing about washing machines second to using them. When I'm not using a washing machine I'm either talking about them or dreaming about them. To me this not time wasted, rather time well spent in paradise.
The irony in what you're saying is profound when compared to you going out of your way searching, restoring, spending money and using washers that have long been made either obsolete or never performed well in the first place (capacity, cleaning, lint removal). Maytag is literally neither here nor there.
I LOVE fantasizing about washing machines second to using them. When I'm not using a washing machine I'm either talking about them or dreaming about them. To me this not time wasted, rather time well spent in paradise.
The irony in what you're saying is profound when compared to you going out of your way searching, restoring, spending money and using washers that have long been made either obsolete or never performed well in the first place (capacity, cleaning, lint removal). Maytag is literally neither here nor there.
There’s lots of stuff I like to fantasize about as well, one of them bringing a car to life that’s been in the back of my mind for quite some time, but won’t happen if I keep on running my mouth and fantasizing about it.
Got to walk the walk, not talk the talk.
Got to walk the walk, not talk the talk.
Going on impulse doesn't end well, the 5-oclock news is living proof of that.
You have to think, talk, reflect, then act.
Mental imagery and written language are a means by which future plans are formulated. 95% of this site consists of people talking about their dream machines before acquisition, during rebuild, and after success.
I understand what your ultimately getting at. You don't want me and Jerome reviving old threads and you don't want me and Jerome bringing up GE/Hotpoint/RCA washers daily. Conveying those two desires explicitly "clicks" faster (for me) than being tangential (peripheral). I'm guessing the same would hold true for Jerome.
You have to think, talk, reflect, then act.
Mental imagery and written language are a means by which future plans are formulated. 95% of this site consists of people talking about their dream machines before acquisition, during rebuild, and after success.
I understand what your ultimately getting at. You don't want me and Jerome reviving old threads and you don't want me and Jerome bringing up GE/Hotpoint/RCA washers daily. Conveying those two desires explicitly "clicks" faster (for me) than being tangential (peripheral). I'm guessing the same would hold true for Jerome.
to chetlaham
This is very true. As a blind person, I can see the decline in quality in feel and hear it in sound alone.
This is very true. As a blind person, I can see the decline in quality in feel and hear it in sound alone.
cleanteamofny
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Finally got aroung to it.
Yesterday, I washed that oiled, bleach-spotted tea towel. As I had said before, I did not pretreat it.
I used the towel cycle with sanitize, solid soil, stain-soak, perfect steam, and pure rinse.
After the wash, I air-dried the towel to see if I needed a second round of washing.
The oil stain spread further into the fabric, covering close to 100% of it.
So, two months later, here are the results.
The detergents that were used.
1. Tide Hygienic Clean
2. Clorox2
3. Booster Blend
(Sorry for lying that I would machine dry the towel when I didn't)
Yesterday, I washed that oiled, bleach-spotted tea towel. As I had said before, I did not pretreat it.
I used the towel cycle with sanitize, solid soil, stain-soak, perfect steam, and pure rinse.
After the wash, I air-dried the towel to see if I needed a second round of washing.
The oil stain spread further into the fabric, covering close to 100% of it.
So, two months later, here are the results.
The detergents that were used.
1. Tide Hygienic Clean
2. Clorox2
3. Booster Blend
(Sorry for lying that I would machine dry the towel when I didn't)
Modern top load washers, especially ones with wash plates, make me angry.
The dribbles of water, the jiggling of the clothes, the spinning and stopping and the just sitting there make me crazy
I've only had a front loader the last 18 years and just got the LG Washtower and love it. The clothes come out clean, stain free and smell good and I can see things moving around ! Amen !
The dribbles of water, the jiggling of the clothes, the spinning and stopping and the just sitting there make me crazy
I've only had a front loader the last 18 years and just got the LG Washtower and love it. The clothes come out clean, stain free and smell good and I can see things moving around ! Amen !
I’ll be real, I don’t mind it if there is a lot of action
And the Motor seems like it has a lot of get up and go instead of slowly starting to Tumble, I want a washing machine that’ll throw itself into spin
And the Motor seems like it has a lot of get up and go instead of slowly starting to Tumble, I want a washing machine that’ll throw itself into spin
kalanikaau1
Well-known member
Mahalo!
Interesting read,Thanks for posting.
This is exactly why I jumped on the opportunity to buy a used 2018 Speed Queen LWN432SP115TWO1 top loader for a paltry $75 two years ago, the seller was relocating to Texas and did not want to pay shipping costs for the machine to follow her.
Mind you the machine still worked fine, matter of fact she was using it when I went to look at it.
The machine sat in my carport for almost two years as a backup for my trusty 22 year old Maytag top loader when it dies, that started to happen earlier this year with transmission issues.
Resultingly, I was forced into action to disassemble and sanitize the Speed Queen and finally placed it into service last August.
In watching YouTube videos about Whirlpool and GE top loader construction and design, I was amazed and appalled at the amount of plastic used in mission critical components, this reinforced my conviction to never buy a modern day machine, ever.
The Speed Queen is humming along just fine, with it's robust construction I expect it to do so for years, did I mention that it has an uber reliable mechanical timer?
About the only drawback to the machine is it's rather low water fill level but I'm working on that.
I absolutely refuse to spend $$$ on a Whirlpool or Haier produced machine and have to push it to the curb 5 years thereafter.
Interesting read,Thanks for posting.
This is exactly why I jumped on the opportunity to buy a used 2018 Speed Queen LWN432SP115TWO1 top loader for a paltry $75 two years ago, the seller was relocating to Texas and did not want to pay shipping costs for the machine to follow her.
Mind you the machine still worked fine, matter of fact she was using it when I went to look at it.
The machine sat in my carport for almost two years as a backup for my trusty 22 year old Maytag top loader when it dies, that started to happen earlier this year with transmission issues.
Resultingly, I was forced into action to disassemble and sanitize the Speed Queen and finally placed it into service last August.
In watching YouTube videos about Whirlpool and GE top loader construction and design, I was amazed and appalled at the amount of plastic used in mission critical components, this reinforced my conviction to never buy a modern day machine, ever.
The Speed Queen is humming along just fine, with it's robust construction I expect it to do so for years, did I mention that it has an uber reliable mechanical timer?
About the only drawback to the machine is it's rather low water fill level but I'm working on that.
I absolutely refuse to spend $$$ on a Whirlpool or Haier produced machine and have to push it to the curb 5 years thereafter.
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