The Kohler Co. goes on strike!

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I wish the Kohler workers all the best. I am surprised Kohler has not already moved their manufacturing plants overseas. A
 
You gotta admit if a company like this is one of the relatively few who's entire manufacturing headquarters stays in America, that there's going to be something like this going on, as in a strike or arbitration by a Local American Federation of Labor, as in Union...

 

 

-- Dave
 
I believe this strike affects the kitchen & bath, and engine (power) divisions.  They are represented by the UAW (United Auto Workers) union.
 
I'm just about to cross the picket line when I go out for lunch. My company locked out one of the unions on Sat. morning after failing to negotiate a contract. The union has about 350 members of which 3 of the 4 sections (about 150 members) have reached an agreement but the other section (200 members) have not. They have been without a contract for 2 years. Companies for which we are trying to get contract work do not want to give it to us unless we have all of our union contracts in place thus the reason for negotiations to be settled urgently. So far it has been pretty calm....the picketers just hold up each car for 5-10 minutes.

Gary
 
Best wishes for the workers.

I'm pretty sure I've seen Kohler urinals in men's rooms around here. Next time I use one, I will have to pretend it's actually the heartless high level management of a certain plumbing fixtures company I'm peeing on...
 
I must disagree.

Unions in and of themselves are not a bad thing, it's most often the bull headed leaders that give them a bad reputation.  Quite a few of those union leaders only want to line their pockets on the backs of the rank & file membership with the dues they pay.
 
I agree...

Unions are not in themselves a bad thing, and quite honestly they are a big reason we had the prosperity we did from the 50's till the 70's. I really feel there needs to be a counterweight to all the power Wall Street and corporations have. Just as there are bad greedy corporate types, there are bad greedy Union types, but personally I'd think we'd be in a better shape economically if unions had more sway today. Anything that Wall Street and corporate heads oppose can't be bad.

For a long time I was very anti Union, I grew up in Flint Mi and saw some of the stupid things the UAW did back in the 70's. But as I grew older my attitude has changed, now I see a real need for workers to organize. The simple fact is management was as complicit in those stupid work rules as the UAW - they thought they were invincible. Corporations and the media have made "union" a dirty word, and I think for any type of revival they will have to be called associations, or even guilds to gain any traction.

This is really not the right section for this discussion but I had to get that off my chest...
 
Well said MattL, My late Dad worked GM and was UAW. We had a great lifestyle my Mom did not work outside the home. The manufacturing sector has been hard hit by globalization. Jobs that cannot be exported comes to mind as being right for organizing. Healthcare/nursing comes to mind. To be fair I look at the teachers union as an organization that protects not all but some very unproductive people.
Art
 
my Dad too

He retired from Reynolds Aluminum Company in Sheffield, Alabama...aka Reynolds wrap and many other aluminum products.  They were represented by ABG (aluminum, brick, and glass workers).  My mother also was a stay at home mom.  He retired when Alcoa bought Reynolds out.  He'd been there 30 years anyway so he took his retirement and ran at 55 years old!  Wish I could do that!  He had eye problems anyway that were becoming more troublesome.  He built houses when he married my mother...and one day a nail popped him in the eye.  They didn't have replacement lenses back then so they just took out the lens.  When I was in kindergarten in '76-77 he had a cataract on his good eye...again, no replacement lenses still so they took out that lens too.  My entire life he's had to wear contacts just to see and glasses on top of them to read.  He will be 73 next month.  

 

There are pro's and con's to union representation.  I was UAW myself at the Murray bicycle and lawnmower plant before I became a nurse....but they didn't do anything for us.

 

 

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unions are not baaaaaad. everyone deserves legal representation and the right to organize. don't forget the history of American manufacturing included child labor in factories and dangerous working conditions not unlike what is going on in these third world countries today. cognitive dissonance holds no merit over common sense.
 
I can certainly understand

their position. Problem is they have been sold out by politicos in Washington who just happen to work, incognito, for Wall Street.

When bass ackwards trade deals were signed where we basically gave away the store in the interest of trying to promote butter over guns, it put the average working person in a factory at a severe disadvantage come wage negotiations. That being said, companies could very well make good on a threat to move the entire plant to Mexico or wherever, thus the 2 tier wage agreement. That was a sop in a way that by the time the old line guys died or retired, the company would have a new crop of workers at far less wage expesnse. This makes Wall Stree dance a jig as they envision all kinds of freed up funds to buy stock back, increase the dividend, and reward shareholders.

As surely as night follows day, imports flooded in. And most American sheeple buy cheap instead of quality so the shoppers ate this up like hungry lumberjacks at an all you can eat buffet. More cheap stuff followed and in order to compete with slave wages, companies had to force concessions. Thus the two tiered wage setup. Reduced or eliminated benefits. Cheaper products. Et cetera. Or let's reduce competition by purchasing our competitor (electrosux digesting GE appliance for instance)

Rheen, Lennox, trane, for example all have HVAC operations in Mexico. You can buy an Ameristar made in China too! But always remember, we really want quality but just can't seem to figure out how to pay for it.
 

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