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@chestermikeuk

The guarantee is the thing that sells appliances to me
If the guarantee is short then I feel the manufacturer either has no faith in its appliances, or the parts are to expensive for the manufacturer to place inside if there is ever a problem within guarantee.
I know its Swiss made, which is just as good as German build, if not better, but 10 year guarantee would be much better on something that expensive. So i don't feel there built as well as they should.
(Another thing is that I saw a photo of the machines (Previous Range) with Plastic tub and plastic paddles)
 
If the guarantee is short then I feel the manufacturer eithe

Zanussi Washcrafts didn;t have 10 year guarantees.

AEG Lavamats didn't have 10 year guarantees

Miele only offered 1 year guarantees until the early 2000.s

Bosch machines only come with a 2 year guarantee.

 

By your theory, this must mean that they are therefore of low quality too.

 

(Incidentally, my Maytasko only has a 2 year warranty, I must be imagining the quality of that too...)

 

I presume you have never seen let alone used a V-Zug, whereas Mike owns one - like the saying goes, don't judge a book by it's cover.  It's a hard lesson to learn (lord don't I know).

 

Just a friendly piece of advice, nothing more nothing less...

 

Jon
 
@ glenfieldmathk

Plastic tubs mean nothing in terms of reliability,

They resist coin damage much more than any enamel tub could ever resist and they insulate the heat of the wash water better than any other material out there resulting in economy.

They dont make cookware and pans from stainless steel for no reason other than looks.
Its because it conducts heat well amongst other reasons.

Judging by how thin some stainless steel tubs can be Id take my bets on plastic being more ressiliant in the long run against stray items inevitabbly finding their way into the machine.

Now as for the gurantee some manufacturers have different ideas granted but dont judge any book by its covers before you have looked at the appliance and experienced it for yourself which you quite clearly have not.

Flip side - Dyson offer a 5 year gurantee on their cleaners, Why? because it was the only way Which? would ever reccomend them as the reliability is so poor that for the money they ask they are not good value for money. Dyson offer the gurantee as they know customers will need to use it.
 
New here

Hey,
I've just logedd in here and im from germany. The manuals aren't online yet. if you load a german on, you just get the manual of the past year model. 2 years waranty are normal in germany and neighbourhoud. The quality of v zug is just amazing. and it wont coast that much. it will coast you half that much if you buy it on other sites, but it is still just amazing expensive. And on heating system: It can heat withe 50/50 3,6 kw heater and heatpump, 25/75 or 0/100 spliting.
 
Guarentees

I cant help thinking there is a sort twisted irony to this guarentee business with quality machines you shouldnt need a long guarentee as they are built to last whereas with cheap junk you will need a long guarentee
 
This may be an interesting link for people to have a look at regarding warranty and guarantees.

'How long do the consumer guarantees last for?

The consumer guarantees are not limited to a set time period. Instead, they last for the amount of time that is reasonable to expect given the cost and quality of the item or any representations made about the item.

This means that a consumer may be entitled to a remedy after any voluntary or extended warranty has expired.

For example, a car would be expected to last longer than a television, and a television would be expected to last longer than an inexpensive toy. A more expensive fridge would also be expected to last longer than an inexpensive fridge.'

Effectively, our legislation ties warranty to a comparative purchase price/value of good scenario - you would justifiably expect a V Zug to last longer than an Electrolux....so regardless of the card that comes with the machine stating 12 months warranty, there is a legal obligation here to warrant goods that are effectively sold as a 'quality option' based on the consumers reasonable expectation of longevity.

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/957903#h2_36
 
False economy comes to mind.

And I'm not saying this to rain on anyone's parade. It's pretty in a stark and minimalistic way, but far too expensive for what it does and is.
 
I want one of those launderess uniforms!

*LOL*

Generations ago and maybe still for all one knows all over Europe you had "hand ironing" rooms pretty much laid out the same. Rows of ironing boards and women who stood over them for eight or more hours per day doing the ironing part of "hand laundry" services.

Of the places that remain today however the ironing boards are usually vacuum/blow up jobs and the irons fed from steam boilers or some such device.

If the V-Zug "no iron" program is anything like the one on my Oko-Lavamat it simply uses a combination of controlled tub action and no spins between rinses. Water temp is limited to about 40C and the final spin though fast (1200rpms) is <3mins. For lightweight percale or such things come out ready to iron. Heavier shirts will need to "drip dry" somewhat as they come out nearly wet, especially areas made with double layers of fabric such as collars and cuffs.

In an odd but interesting twist my older Miele does pretty much the same for it's "Permanent Press" cycle, minus the controlled drum actions. Again simply no spins between the four rinses, but one gets a series of short burst spins. Result is still the same, many items are much to wet for ironing and will need to be hung for drying.

All of these programs it seems require one to load the washer at about half capacity in order to achieve the best "no iron" results.
 

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