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"The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.&quot

Thomas Jefferso <br <br
I now seems to be official, the gavel of congressional power will pass to the Demorcratic Party for the first time in 12 years. Listening to the press reports through the day, some were jubilant, some somber and aprehensive, still others were denying it could be true and singing the woeful cries of wounded birds as the world witnessed one of the biggest political upheavals in a generation <br
Whatever your political leanings may be, we must remember first and foremost that we are all Americans. Record turnouts at the polls and the celebration of the victors should not overshadow the fact that our country is still obviously very divided. The recent political threads on this forum illustrate this on a very small scale, but they also illustrate how civil yet spirited debates between anyone who wished to participate can be provocative and healthy for our democratic processes. Some of the more notable posts have rung in my head for a couple of weeks. <br
How the congress wields their power in the coming two years will be a good indicator of the Democratic party's willingness to put aside petty, vengeful behavior and act in the best interest of our country. Remember too, they all work for us, Republican, Democrat, independents and even those who do not care. It is up to us that we see a better government come from this congress, write your congressional representatives often and respectfully. Even a few lines in an email can make a difference! This is your country, your democracy and your freedom, now go earn it ;-)
 
Amen Greg!

Ranting doesn't mean a thing, unless you rant where it counts; the voting booth!! I will be watching very closely to see if the rhetoric that has been ceaselessly emanating for the last six years will come to fruition.
 
Impeach Bush!!

Wow, what a great idea! The impeachment of George Bush will almost certainly <br
Get us out of Ira <br
Improve national/border securit <br
Put a moratorium on nuclear (or is it nucular ;-) ) proliferatio <br
Eliminate our dependance on foreign oi <br
Reduce medical and insurance cost <br
Reduce taxe <br
Curb runaway federal spending and reduce the budget defici <br
Pass a REAL campaign finance reform bil <br
Stop global warmin <br
Address human rights issues.... <br
the list goes on and on. I just knew the Dems had a plan all along <br
That ridiculous investigation and impeachment of Bill Clinton was a colossal waste of time and money. It accomplished absolutely nothing. So, are the Dems going to reach across the aisle, pass the cake, and really get something done; or are they going to pass Bush's head on a platter, create more divisiveness, and leave the country in the same, self-destructive holding pattern?
 
Toggle <br
I can always count on you! Now, could you please pass the cigars (ducks and runs......FAST) ;-)
 
Impeachment does nothing but waste time and money. We need to get the country back on track, and that is what the democrats want to do. There are some that still want a fight, because of all the awful things that were said about the liberal party
I hope we can forget all that stuff and get on with it. Plus we will have a better chance in 08 <br
It is the fault of Bush and Co. that the republican party is in shambles. It is NOT the fault of the democrats. We won this time only because we are not the republicans. Next time we will win for what we can do to make things better.
 
Fire and Brimstones

According to my parents (who are VERY old school, and DO NOT bash them or their faith in any way or that will seriously PISS me off), the democrats taking over signals the "end of the world". The Iraqi's will destroy America and then the "fire and brimstone" will come. I admire them for their faith, but being that I am a Christian myself, I just cannot believe that God is going to rain all terror on us because of having democrats in office. I'm sure there will be an "end of the world" but no one really knows when. They're just old school, they belive everything that happens is according to some Biblical prophecy. They live miserable, depressing lives because they're always under the belief that the word is going to end any day now. How truly sad. The Bible also tells us not to worry about the future, it's all in God's hands. Funny, the pastor at my church gives positive, life-changing, healing messages, not like John Hagee that sounds like a loud barking dog that gives prophecies of terror and fear. Their whole message is, "Yeah, you're saved, but U GOTTA suffer anyway". BS <br
I voted Democrat this time around because I agree, we need change. We need all those things Venus listed. How about sending our soldiers back home and fight the war we have here in the country, like crime, drugs, gangs, illegals, etc. And I have a good feeling about it too, morally and spiritually. This will be the positive turnaround our great country needs.
 
I Can't Believe I'm Saying This....

Rick, my friend.. <br
For once we actually agree politically! This could be a good thing! :-)
 
I concur with those of you who feel impeachment would be a big waste of time, effort and money. Let's put all that energy into solutions for health care, fiscal issues, education and our standing in the global community.
 
It' still the day after November 7th, OMG !!!!

There is NO comparison between the farse of trying to impeach President Clinton and removing the inferior white trash that is sitting in the position of President now <br
Clinton did nothing wrong. Actually, the Impeachment attempt validified his actions because the impeachment attempt failed, Americans may be slow, but they are not stupid <br
America wants and deserves justice and accountability. The list of Crimes this administration have committed is extensive, overwhelming, and unprecedented. <br
With both the House and Senate Democrats have the potential to do alot of Good. If Bush attempts to use his Veto crayons colorfully he will not only show how obstanent republicans are he will holding up progress for America, not that he would do that(right). It would be better to have the little bugger removed, one way or another <br
On the other hand... how much fun it will be to watch the trash squirm <br
My guess, Jr. and cheney and perhaps rummey will go for an air plane trip somewhere that will "crash" mysteriously or be "struck down". Unfortunately we won't have any footage of the "accident". We'll just have to take the word on that. <br
Irronically a song called
"Good Bye to You" by the group
'Scandal' comes to mind <br
LOL
 
I'm not looking for impeachment. I'm just looking for accountability and, if we're lucky, the chance to recoup some of the money that has been lost to war profiteering. Some sort of face-saving resolution to the occupation would be nice as well. Every occupation has ended with negotiation, there's no reason this one can't be different. If it leads to a civil war there, so be it. It was never a "real" country anyway - it was formed by the British at the end of WWI following the breakup of the Ottoman Empire <br
I hope this upset helps the real conservatives and true Republicans (The ones who believe in small government, low taxes, primacy of the individual) to regain control of their party. While I tend to be more socially liberal and believe government has a positive role to play, I am also fairly conservative fiscally, and I think there's a middle ground we can all meet at. <br
Regarding the whole end of the world thing: certain sects of religion have been predicting that since the dawn of religion. And, for some reason, the turn of the century always heighten those fears/anticipations. It usually lasts for about ten years following the turn. <br
It's my opinion that God works on his own schedule :-)
 
Time and money? One could have had the same argument about the Nuremberg trials <br
If impeachable offenses have clearly been committed, how is it NOT the duty of the government to initiate impeachment proceedings <br
It's not their job to pick and choose the dispensation of justice based on financial considerations and political expediency.
 
Get ready for two years of investigations, subpoenas, hearings...you name it. Everything will be investigated, then investigated again. But the Republicans did it to themselves...every last bit of it.
 
Gotta get worse before it gets better

This is the proverbial shit hitting the proverbial fan. At this point I really don't take any side (repub, dem, whatever). I just want the USA to get better or I'm moving to England LOL.
 
Investigations are a good thing. Unfortunately, when a war or a natural disaster happens, contractors try to get away with things. That's where Congress is supposed to provide oversight. <br
In WWII, Harry Truman, then a Democratic Senator, went against the leadership of the Democratically controlled Congress, and the Democratically controlled White House, to create a Truman commission to provide oversight to the military contractors. <br
The Truman Commission saved American taxpayers $15 billion (in 1940s dollars). And by uncovering faulty military equipment, he prevented the deaths of thousands of GI's <br
If a GOP Senator - say, John McCain - had had the moral courage of Harry Truman and had required fiscal oversight into both the War/occupation and Katrina, we would be in a much better fiscal condition, and they might have held onto Congress.
 

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