verizonbear
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Interesting
There's a livestream of a Speed Queen Top Loader full of garden tools .
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toploader55
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Why ?
They've been doing this for a while with various types of objects on a machine that's programmed to run through repetitive cycles to tout the durability.
If The TR Series Is So Durable
Why don't they put coin boxes on them and put them in commercial service,
Because they know they will not clean big loads of clothing that people stuff in coin operated models.
But the good news is you can now wash garden tools as well as golf balls and Billiard balls, LOL
John
Why don't they put coin boxes on them and put them in commercial service,
Because they know they will not clean big loads of clothing that people stuff in coin operated models.
But the good news is you can now wash garden tools as well as golf balls and Billiard balls, LOL
John
justjunque
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That is strangely interesting.
I never saw any purpose for this type of washer. But, I would like my garden tools cleaner!
Barry
I never saw any purpose for this type of washer. But, I would like my garden tools cleaner!
Barry
spinmon
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just stop..
Jeez,SQ. Drop this UN-washer and do whatever it takes to build only transmission style machines in base/mol/tol.
If you want adventure,offer some COLORS. But don't show us any more non-laundry items being ''washed''.
Jeez,SQ. Drop this UN-washer and do whatever it takes to build only transmission style machines in base/mol/tol.
If you want adventure,offer some COLORS. But don't show us any more non-laundry items being ''washed''.
I'm still curious as to how many people commenting on this machine have used it?
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I get defensive on this because I see people always dogging this machine and they've never used them.
Go buy one of these, use it, form an opinion of it.
Then buy one of the whirlpool/lg/maytag/ge/samsung top load popular advertised all over machines, use that and then use the speed queen again.
People want to cram heavy a** blankets and baskets full of clothes in these modern top loaders and none of them can handle it for long periods except the speed queen TR series. For what people want to wash, this machine handles it better and performs better than the agitatorless machines. I've washed several loads of shop rags and moving blankets in almost every top load we sell and the TR series handles them better and spins them better.[this post was last edited: 7/3/2020-12:33]
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I get defensive on this because I see people always dogging this machine and they've never used them.
Go buy one of these, use it, form an opinion of it.
Then buy one of the whirlpool/lg/maytag/ge/samsung top load popular advertised all over machines, use that and then use the speed queen again.
People want to cram heavy a** blankets and baskets full of clothes in these modern top loaders and none of them can handle it for long periods except the speed queen TR series. For what people want to wash, this machine handles it better and performs better than the agitatorless machines. I've washed several loads of shop rags and moving blankets in almost every top load we sell and the TR series handles them better and spins them better.[this post was last edited: 7/3/2020-12:33]
Speed Queen TR TL Washers
Hi Joshua, I have used this machine, We sell this machine, for the amount of water it uses it just not do a good job on really dirty or large loads,
You are using some pretty lame washers if this SQ TR washer actually cleans dirty shop rags better than about any other TL washer ever sold, Large moving blankets should be washed in a FL washer for decent even cleaning.
Speed Queen knows it is substandard in cleaning performance which it has not appeared in commercial settings.
SQ though they could get away a simplified design and it failed badly, they lost more than 1/2 of their sales, Frigidaire marketed almost the same machine 6 years ago and abandoned it after 2 years, No one is more disappointed than we are we lost a lot of sales due to this blunder.
Hi Joshua, I have used this machine, We sell this machine, for the amount of water it uses it just not do a good job on really dirty or large loads,
You are using some pretty lame washers if this SQ TR washer actually cleans dirty shop rags better than about any other TL washer ever sold, Large moving blankets should be washed in a FL washer for decent even cleaning.
Speed Queen knows it is substandard in cleaning performance which it has not appeared in commercial settings.
SQ though they could get away a simplified design and it failed badly, they lost more than 1/2 of their sales, Frigidaire marketed almost the same machine 6 years ago and abandoned it after 2 years, No one is more disappointed than we are we lost a lot of sales due to this blunder.
Small Point: I said "in almost every top load we sell" meaning current offerings from the brands we sell.
Not ever sold; not discontinued items.
The TR series speed queen will handle day to day household usage better than the current top load offerings from our other vendors.
We sell the GE GTW220 and GTX22 pair more than we sell any other top load pair because of price point.
When people are looking at a 999, 1099 and 1199 top load washer, the speed queen tr series is better money spent than other similar priced top load washers. They are more durable, they move more water and they handle bulkier loads better.
Put a sleeping bag in this or an lg or samsung or even whirlpool/maytag and see which one runs the whole cycle quieter and quicker and still gets the same results or better.
We have had two come back for clean-ability reasons. Both were unopened, both had posts printed from this site that they found on google.
Most, if not all, of the other offerings the TR series is designed to compete with aren't available in commercial offerings... The TR series is aimed at the home customer, why would you not look at the comparison between home machines?
Aside from the fact that we have two complexes that use these in their common laundry rooms simply because they have less service issues from being over loaded.
And having taken these machines apart, if I owned rentals and needed something for common laundry, I would purchase the TR series and have an aftermarket coin/timer installed controlling the outlet because these machines can take a beating. There aren't any gears, just a 1 hp motor driving a fixed shaft and pulley and an independent drain pump.
Not ever sold; not discontinued items.
The TR series speed queen will handle day to day household usage better than the current top load offerings from our other vendors.
We sell the GE GTW220 and GTX22 pair more than we sell any other top load pair because of price point.
When people are looking at a 999, 1099 and 1199 top load washer, the speed queen tr series is better money spent than other similar priced top load washers. They are more durable, they move more water and they handle bulkier loads better.
Put a sleeping bag in this or an lg or samsung or even whirlpool/maytag and see which one runs the whole cycle quieter and quicker and still gets the same results or better.
We have had two come back for clean-ability reasons. Both were unopened, both had posts printed from this site that they found on google.
Most, if not all, of the other offerings the TR series is designed to compete with aren't available in commercial offerings... The TR series is aimed at the home customer, why would you not look at the comparison between home machines?
Aside from the fact that we have two complexes that use these in their common laundry rooms simply because they have less service issues from being over loaded.
And having taken these machines apart, if I owned rentals and needed something for common laundry, I would purchase the TR series and have an aftermarket coin/timer installed controlling the outlet because these machines can take a beating. There aren't any gears, just a 1 hp motor driving a fixed shaft and pulley and an independent drain pump.
pinkpower4
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Of the SQ TL residential, I would ONLY buy SQ TC5000wn.
The TC5000wn is a better value for your money. In addition to office wear, our family has people who enjoy working out at the gym, provide our own lawn care, work at technical trade jobs, enjoy outdoor sports, have pets, kids, etc.
I would purchase the Maytag mvwp575gw over the SQ TR series any day all day. I've had my Maytag for two years now with no issues. At least it has a 5-yr. parts and labor warranty included. If that was out of my budget, I would look at the Roper or Amana dual action agitator models. While none of these may not last as long, they will clean my clothes better for the time they do run AND I will still be out less money versus a laundry mat. Plus, it is more convenient.
No one will convince me the TR series out performs the TC5000wn model or what seems to be the second overall best choice, the Maytag model I have. Why would I spend my hard money to get less for more? Seeing is believing when almost everyone says the same thing.
I hope SQ continues to sell the TC5000wn model--it was not available when I needed a new washer. I do think it has a better build quality, half tub wash and rinse for all main cycles, and NO ATC. With that said, I want to emphasize I've had no issues with my Maytag mvwp575gw in the two years I've owned it. I say this because the TC5000wn may be a time-limited model that may only be sold through the end of this year. I have not heard that recently, so hopefully this is incorrect.
The government passed regulations with good intentions but failed to properly research them. If so, how they can miss what is so obvious to the actual users?
Washers wind up in the landfills much quicker now. It takes more time, water, energy, and chemicals to clean clothes now.
The TC5000wn is a better value for your money. In addition to office wear, our family has people who enjoy working out at the gym, provide our own lawn care, work at technical trade jobs, enjoy outdoor sports, have pets, kids, etc.
I would purchase the Maytag mvwp575gw over the SQ TR series any day all day. I've had my Maytag for two years now with no issues. At least it has a 5-yr. parts and labor warranty included. If that was out of my budget, I would look at the Roper or Amana dual action agitator models. While none of these may not last as long, they will clean my clothes better for the time they do run AND I will still be out less money versus a laundry mat. Plus, it is more convenient.
No one will convince me the TR series out performs the TC5000wn model or what seems to be the second overall best choice, the Maytag model I have. Why would I spend my hard money to get less for more? Seeing is believing when almost everyone says the same thing.
I hope SQ continues to sell the TC5000wn model--it was not available when I needed a new washer. I do think it has a better build quality, half tub wash and rinse for all main cycles, and NO ATC. With that said, I want to emphasize I've had no issues with my Maytag mvwp575gw in the two years I've owned it. I say this because the TC5000wn may be a time-limited model that may only be sold through the end of this year. I have not heard that recently, so hopefully this is incorrect.
The government passed regulations with good intentions but failed to properly research them. If so, how they can miss what is so obvious to the actual users?
Washers wind up in the landfills much quicker now. It takes more time, water, energy, and chemicals to clean clothes now.
pinkpower4
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About sleeping bags...
I've seen demos of bulkier items being washed in the TR series. They don't move. The tub just move back and forth. There is almost little or no turnover. The wash action reminds me of the Scrambler carnival ride. As the direction changes quickly, everything goes to one side SMASHED together. How is that getting clean? This is why SQ does not show clothes being washed. This wash action only works with smaller items or lightly soiled items like office wear.
I've seen demos of bulkier items being washed in the TR series. They don't move. The tub just move back and forth. There is almost little or no turnover. The wash action reminds me of the Scrambler carnival ride. As the direction changes quickly, everything goes to one side SMASHED together. How is that getting clean? This is why SQ does not show clothes being washed. This wash action only works with smaller items or lightly soiled items like office wear.
twintubdexter
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #008000;">Remember the famous "sand test" that Betty Furness performed for the old Westinghouse front loader? I suggest Speed Queen do a "Kleenex test". I'm sure the TR series would be the only washer, top or front loader, where the load would emerge perfectly unscathed...and clean provided they were unused to begin with. </span>
speed queen cleaning challenge
I dare you to do the speed queen challenge with tide pods and see how well it will get out tough ground-in dirt on the heavy-duty cycle with max soil setting and auto-fill. I bet it wouldn't work!
I dare you to do the speed queen challenge with tide pods and see how well it will get out tough ground-in dirt on the heavy-duty cycle with max soil setting and auto-fill. I bet it wouldn't work!
pinkpower4
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If someone wants to send me a TR to try at no cost, I will.
But I am not spending my hard earned money to see if the TR series will out clean the Maytag mvwp575gw I already have. My money is on what I already have
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But I am not spending my hard earned money to see if the TR series will out clean the Maytag mvwp575gw I already have. My money is on what I already have
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The TC 5 and the TR series aren't the same animal. and I am not saying that they are. I am saying that the TR does better than a washplate/agitatorless machine.
And whirlpool/maytag can keep their washers equipped with the washplates and a stick.
I've used the tr's, i've used cabrios and bravos machines. I've used the top load samsungs and lgs. I have watched these machines perform in person.
I see what our service department goes through trying to repair the shaft on the whirlpool/maytags when the tubs don't float anymore. That is the number 1 repair on those machines.
And whirlpool/maytag can keep their washers equipped with the washplates and a stick.
I've used the tr's, i've used cabrios and bravos machines. I've used the top load samsungs and lgs. I have watched these machines perform in person.
I see what our service department goes through trying to repair the shaft on the whirlpool/maytags when the tubs don't float anymore. That is the number 1 repair on those machines.
I don't think WP has any machines anymore with the floating basket design? VMW and VMAX both have non-floating baskets with a mode shifter.
And I don't know if WP perhaps did something to mess up F&P's floating basket design ... but I've never had a problem with mine, and my GWL08 that my nephew is using is now 21 years old with no repairs except one pump replacement.
I’ll just say this about the Speed Queen TR washers is they are all style and no substance compared to the models that proceeded them. Speed Queen would have been better off if they ignored to dumb regulations and give people what they actually want.
nmassman44
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Here is what SQ should have done to their machines...keep the transmission and agitator , but, change out the motor to the variable DC motor that they use now...that way the washer can agitate at 68 opms for normal and spin the load at 850+ rpms. I still have my SQ AWN311 and yes its a water hog, and yes the agitation is quite adequate , but spin leaves a lot to be desired. That washbasket will hold onto water much longer than it needs to in my opinion and the final spin is not long enough or fast enough in my experience.
When our lovely city decided to jack up our water and sewer rates that washer had to be sidelined. Going back to a front load washer was the best thing I could have done. I know some pine for a top loader that is old school, and I get that.
The other thing , getting back to the topic at hand, I cannot imagine how nicked up and scratched that agitator and wash basket will be after this idiotic "test". I would bet they won't show you that after effect.
When our lovely city decided to jack up our water and sewer rates that washer had to be sidelined. Going back to a front load washer was the best thing I could have done. I know some pine for a top loader that is old school, and I get that.
The other thing , getting back to the topic at hand, I cannot imagine how nicked up and scratched that agitator and wash basket will be after this idiotic "test". I would bet they won't show you that after effect.
Reminds me of this load of golf balls. Also, skip to about 01:04:45 to see the "spin break" 
Spin break
Oh the wonders of inertia...
Oh the wonders of inertia...
Not a Fan of ANY Speed Queen TL
I think Joshua has raised one good point in his argument defending the TR, and that is a rental situation.
A friend owns a 4-plex and the common laundry room has one washer, a BOL coin operated Whirlpool, and one dryer, a Maytag. Both are less than five years old, I would guess. People who have never owned a washer and have to pay to run a load are 1) Not typically aware when it comes to performance or durability, and 2) Prone to overload to get the most for their money -- even though they won't.
For durability that translates into less need for repairs, I can see from a landlord's perspective that the TR might be a good choice for the rental application. If users are habitually overloading and impairing performance, what difference does it make if the agitator is virtually ineffective?
Additionally, I agree with statements above that the far-overrated traditional TC/AWN design is seriously sub-par at both rinsing and spinning. Personally, I'd never own either type of Speed Queen top loader. After tolerating our '97 Raytheon Amana for nine years and running countless extra rinses on loads of inadequately spun towels, plus having chewed up belts replaced every three years, we switched to a front loader for our daily driver and have never looked back. Don't even get me started on the poorly designed tinny rattletrap substandard companion dryer that only knew how to render extra-crispy results.
I think Joshua has raised one good point in his argument defending the TR, and that is a rental situation.
A friend owns a 4-plex and the common laundry room has one washer, a BOL coin operated Whirlpool, and one dryer, a Maytag. Both are less than five years old, I would guess. People who have never owned a washer and have to pay to run a load are 1) Not typically aware when it comes to performance or durability, and 2) Prone to overload to get the most for their money -- even though they won't.
For durability that translates into less need for repairs, I can see from a landlord's perspective that the TR might be a good choice for the rental application. If users are habitually overloading and impairing performance, what difference does it make if the agitator is virtually ineffective?
Additionally, I agree with statements above that the far-overrated traditional TC/AWN design is seriously sub-par at both rinsing and spinning. Personally, I'd never own either type of Speed Queen top loader. After tolerating our '97 Raytheon Amana for nine years and running countless extra rinses on loads of inadequately spun towels, plus having chewed up belts replaced every three years, we switched to a front loader for our daily driver and have never looked back. Don't even get me started on the poorly designed tinny rattletrap substandard companion dryer that only knew how to render extra-crispy results.
Why does everyone seem to rank on top load Speed Queens? I think they outclean and out spin a other well known top loaders.
Speed queen made a big miscalculation with the tr series. The previous generations were just fine. They weren’t the best, but just ok.
Back in the early 2000’s sq was not a popular washer, it was expensive and quite frankly not very reliable. It ate timers and /or belts regularly. Literally all the rest of the washers on the market got shittier and by about 2015 sq ( by default) became one of the best out there simply because they didn’t change anything.
2016/17 they were having record breaking years and couldn’t keep up with demand. They raised prices and canceled the spiff program. I suspect they thought they could do no wrong.
Source: 20 years in the business and I’ve bought/tested/sold more washers than anyone here with the exception of maybe john L. I also own a couple TR washers and have documented first hand experience with them.
For the record: I never said the TR was the worst washer ever. I just refused to sell a $1,000 washer to my customers that would deliver mediocre results at best. For people who work in an office and just need a gentle rinser for a washer this model would be a good choice.
Lastly: don’t think the TR is bullet proof. I belong to a website with servicemen all over the country and the TR series has had plenty of service issues already.
Back in the early 2000’s sq was not a popular washer, it was expensive and quite frankly not very reliable. It ate timers and /or belts regularly. Literally all the rest of the washers on the market got shittier and by about 2015 sq ( by default) became one of the best out there simply because they didn’t change anything.
2016/17 they were having record breaking years and couldn’t keep up with demand. They raised prices and canceled the spiff program. I suspect they thought they could do no wrong.
Source: 20 years in the business and I’ve bought/tested/sold more washers than anyone here with the exception of maybe john L. I also own a couple TR washers and have documented first hand experience with them.
For the record: I never said the TR was the worst washer ever. I just refused to sell a $1,000 washer to my customers that would deliver mediocre results at best. For people who work in an office and just need a gentle rinser for a washer this model would be a good choice.
Lastly: don’t think the TR is bullet proof. I belong to a website with servicemen all over the country and the TR series has had plenty of service issues already.
Right- but didn't Speed Queen improve its design since the early 2000s? Today's classic Queens rival whirlpool DDs?
TR Service Issues
What are the common failures/issues seen in the TR?
What are the common failures/issues seen in the TR?
The tr3 initially had a lot of control board issues. The tr7 also. Oddly the tr5 was mostly spared. I would have to search the other stuff as it not at the top of my head
Once again, I'll pass on electronics.
brisnat81
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I’ve said it a few times SQ need to do it like F&P Gentle Annie did 35 years ago.
No gearbox, just a pulley and a belt. There are two shafts only one is driven. When the agitate shaft moves beyond about 300 deg, it contacts a tang on the spin shaft and spins. Computer control aside, the system is unbelievably simple and robust.
No clutch, no gearbox, all that’s needed is good speed control which the SQ has. It can even brake via the motor, so no lid lock needed.
No gearbox, just a pulley and a belt. There are two shafts only one is driven. When the agitate shaft moves beyond about 300 deg, it contacts a tang on the spin shaft and spins. Computer control aside, the system is unbelievably simple and robust.
No clutch, no gearbox, all that’s needed is good speed control which the SQ has. It can even brake via the motor, so no lid lock needed.
I'm speechless. How can Speed Queen mess up so bad?
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