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Auntie's 1969 less-deluxe model had the same four auxiliary controls/choices but arranged around the timer instead of across the panel.  The timer was backlight with an incandescent bulb, IIRC.  Normal and Durable Press cycles, possibly Soak but I don't clearly recall.  No bleach dispenser.  I remember she mentioned that she had questioned the dealer on concern about it always filling full for rinse regardless of a smaller selected load size and was told it's supposed to do that.  She also told me that Extra Fill is to get a full fill if the supply pressure is low.
 
Thanks again for the kind comments, everyone. A few answers to questions:

McGraw-Edison - yes! SQ was under the watchful eye of McGraw-Edison during the era of this set, in fact they owned Speed Queen from around 1957 till around 1979.

Does this mean each cycle had one set wash time? - yes, in theory. The wash cycle should have 10 increments of 60 seconds each for the Regular cycle, with the overflow taking place during the last increment of wash. The Durable Press and Soak cycles share a 3 increment wash period, with the Durable Press cycle getting another 3 increments in after the first "dilution" period of overflow and fill during spin.

 

Summer of Love - Christina I was hoping someone would catch it, and so glad it was you!  :)

 

SQ and Timers - yes, this particular model does have a Mallory timer in it.  Sometimes, but not always, SQ and Maytag even would append a suffix at the end of the timer PN with a -1, -2, or -3, indicating MFG of the replacement timer.  The PN stamped on the timer is 23022-1, which may indicate a standard Mallory timer per SQ's timer hierarchy.  Kingston was also used well through the 70's on the solid tub washers, and by the early 70's the ratchet type advancements on the Mallory versions were replaced with the tension spring escapement, usually found on timers marked M300.  Panthera, it's a bummer the flow washers are no longer regulating the pressure properly.  They often overflow for several seconds even when new.  Oh hey, I finally found a printed reference in some SQ documentation to your washer - is it a model MA69F?

 

Is this standard or large capacity?  Standard capacity, used on SQ from the beginning all through the 70's.  The large capacity tubs were introduced on the DA reversing motor series starting in the early 70's.


 

replacing the fluorescent lights with LEDs?  The thought had not crossed my mind.  If I could get a higher output I'd consider it.  Will need to check the length as I suspect it isn't standard.


 

Extra Fill is to get a full fill if the supply pressure is low.  Glenn, it's a shame the sales rep didn't walk your aunt through the "Sure-Fill" models that used a pressure switch in line with an auxiliary overflow tank to dial in the load size, very similar to GM Frigidaire of the late 60's.  I do like how the rep responded with, "it's supposed to do that."


 

Ben
 
Mitzi's Speed Queen Set is very similar....

Here is a link to a video of Mitzi Gaynor, and you can see her dance around a very similar Speed Queen set in the then popular Harvest Gold color.

Her dryer look bigger than standard, was it wider than the normal 27"?

This was link posted before as post 55484 in 2014 (Can it really have been 7 years ago??) Lots of fun comments.

 
Oh goodness that was a hoot. Can't say I caught that clip the first go round but certainly glad you shared it, Barry!

She is prancing around a 1970's 9000 series set, more than likely similar to a DA9041 (1970 - 1974) or FE9101 (1974 - 1976), or something very close. There were several variations of the lighted panel 9000 washer during this era of SQs, which are just as attractive as the A78. The dryer would be a DE9021 or FE equivalent.

I couldn't imagine kicking my legs like that without fear of injury.

Ben

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Yes, that's the model number

Thanks!

Apparently, repair folks back then just 'knew' the MA was special and mentally translated it to get the right parts.

The full-temperature range switch sets it apart from the lowest, apparently.

I got used to monitoring the fill levels with our Thumper. I really should put an atmospheric pressure cistern into the attic, and fill our fill-by-time machines from that. We'd only need one adjustment, once, for each.

Your machine is enormously quieter than ours - I need to find the time to see what is making a rumbling sound in ours. Sometimes, the inner tub will spin during the fill. Not very fast, and with very little torque behind it. 

Thanks for mentioning that - without you folks, I would never have found anyone to believe us. I know, now, to just use a 'real' model number when searching repair part sites.
 
Panthera's Mystery Machine

A few weeks ago I stumbled upon an eBay auction for some SQ documentation that has eluded me for some time: the early version of the "Speedy" parts guide. Years ago I found the 1970 - 1985 version but always wondered if they had an earlier version that listed the 1960's machines, and sure enough they did, in fact it goes back to the beginning of the automatic washer production with the A10.

From what I can gather from the document, the MA series machines were either mirror copies of earlier 1966/1967 A series solenoid driven washers, or new models that would have been introduced between 1968 and 1970. There is an MA version of the A78 and the rest of the 70 series machines, as well as commercial series 2xx, too. Hopefully one of us either has some documentation on the MA series machines that they would be willing to share or that we stumble upon new material at some point.

By this time they were starting to switch over to the first iteration of the DA series water valves, the 24596 (3.5 gpm) or the 24597 (3.8 gpm), but not for all. The 22454 listed for the MA69F would also be a 3.8 gpm valve that matches the A78, but it's anyone's guess at this point as to the difference between the 22454 and the 24597. To make matters worse the MA78F is listed as using the 24596, using a 3.5 gpm fill rather than the earlier 3.8 gpm fill. Confusing? It certain is to me. I ordered an NOS 24597 for the A78 and even if it overflows a half gallon or so isn't the end of the world.

If the tub is coasting during fill/agitation it is an indicator that the motor shaft isn't freely spinning on the inside of the fluid drive bearing. You can take the assembly apart and clean up the motor shaft and add a dab of turbine oil to the cleaned shaft to solve for this issue. Also check the lining in the clutch cup while you have fluid drive off, mine chatters as if the material is starting wear through about half way to full spin speed.

Ben

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The dishwasher is a Tappan. One of their last in-house designs. It has six cycles (I think) and three modifier buttons. You can see the modifier buttons next to the door handle. The left side of the panel has cycle sequence lights.

This was not a ReversaJet; it was the model series after it.
 
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