Dumpster diving has its risks-esp with food items-Many times if the food has been thrown out-IT MIGHT NOT BE FIT TO EAT-DO SO AT YOUR RISK!!!!Esp eggs,meats,dairy products.If the package-such as ice cream is not cold and melted---DO NOT USE!!!!!And are the packages CLEAN???If not DO NOT USE!!!!When I dumpster dove-salvaged mainly items-like appliances and such-NOT food.Just too risky-and of course another hazard for dumpster divers---THE TRASH TRUCK!!!!Don't allow yourself to get dumpted in it-keep an ear and eye out for the truck-GET OUT of the dumpster right away if the truck approaches it.Getting crushed in the trucks packer will get you killed-Is this worth your life? And you may encounter "other" dumpster divers such as rats,mice,raccoons and possums,and in some cases----BEARS!!!On classsic refuse trucks they show a bear pushing a dumpster away from a building so he can rummage thru it at his leasure.
This Has To Stop Now! Shrinking toilet paper
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toploader55
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Now back to Toilet Tissue...
I'm apparently in the minority of people who would rather pay a few cents more for a product that remains what is commonly considered "full-size". As a person who prepares a lot of food, the downsizing of some products messes with recipes.
I use cake mixes frequently as a base for coffee cakes. Downsizing these from 18.25 ozs. to 15.25 definitely changes characteristics of the final product. Thank goodness the Hy-Vee store brand still makes an 18.25 oz. cake mix. The quality of the product is comparable to national brands.
The latest downsizing trend causing me to spit spikes involves bags of shredded cheese. Kraft, in particular, is systematically downsizing their 8 oz. bags to 6 or 7 ozs. There are 2 cups of cheese in an 8 oz. bag and 1.75 cups in a 7 oz. bag. This probably isn't a deal-breaker when stirred into a casserole or used in a lasagna, but it will definitely mess with a sauce recipe.
While almost all downsizing annoys me, I have to admit that getting a 12 oz. bag of coffee beans instead of a full pound (16 ozs.) probably isn't going to play into altering a recipe. It simply means that, while the price is enticing, you'll have to purchase it more often.
Oh, the trials and tribulations we 1st-world people have to endure! The poverty-stricken have no idea, do they?
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I use cake mixes frequently as a base for coffee cakes. Downsizing these from 18.25 ozs. to 15.25 definitely changes characteristics of the final product. Thank goodness the Hy-Vee store brand still makes an 18.25 oz. cake mix. The quality of the product is comparable to national brands.
The latest downsizing trend causing me to spit spikes involves bags of shredded cheese. Kraft, in particular, is systematically downsizing their 8 oz. bags to 6 or 7 ozs. There are 2 cups of cheese in an 8 oz. bag and 1.75 cups in a 7 oz. bag. This probably isn't a deal-breaker when stirred into a casserole or used in a lasagna, but it will definitely mess with a sauce recipe.
While almost all downsizing annoys me, I have to admit that getting a 12 oz. bag of coffee beans instead of a full pound (16 ozs.) probably isn't going to play into altering a recipe. It simply means that, while the price is enticing, you'll have to purchase it more often.
Oh, the trials and tribulations we 1st-world people have to endure! The poverty-stricken have no idea, do they?
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danemodsandy
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Matt:
While the additives in packaged foods are a consideration for many people, what's at work here is that a lot of well-loved "product recipes" don't work as well any more, or don't work at all, because of package downsizing.
The fabulous Bacardi Rum Cake and its variations (Chcolate, Pina Colada, etc.) would be just one of the casualties.
Yeah, if you're an experienced baker you can get around this. But product recipes were for the average person with limited skills and time who wanted a great result.
While the additives in packaged foods are a consideration for many people, what's at work here is that a lot of well-loved "product recipes" don't work as well any more, or don't work at all, because of package downsizing.
The fabulous Bacardi Rum Cake and its variations (Chcolate, Pina Colada, etc.) would be just one of the casualties.
Yeah, if you're an experienced baker you can get around this. But product recipes were for the average person with limited skills and time who wanted a great result.
Shrinking Products
The lesson here is not to buy big nationally advertised branded products, I stick to good store brands, get your toilet paper at Costco.
The lesson here is not to buy big nationally advertised branded products, I stick to good store brands, get your toilet paper at Costco.
DirectDriveDave
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You can probably Google this, there's a pic somewhere of someone holding up 2 of those chocolate easter eggs. I think they were both a few years apart or something, it shows the size difference.
Eugene is right.....
think about this.....a simple Betty Crocker cake mix call for 2 extra large eggs per recipe....but since the size has changed....do I look for a chicken that lays a reduced size egg to match the recipe so that it is not altered from previous product?....
some things can't be altered that far off track without causing something to be out of whack!.....
next thing you know, a dozen eggs will now come as an eleven pack....too much brain power will go in to making it an even ten...
on a side note....I do like some of these newer TP without the cardboard roll in the center, more product on the roll, and no cardboard waste to get rid of...
think about this.....a simple Betty Crocker cake mix call for 2 extra large eggs per recipe....but since the size has changed....do I look for a chicken that lays a reduced size egg to match the recipe so that it is not altered from previous product?....
some things can't be altered that far off track without causing something to be out of whack!.....
next thing you know, a dozen eggs will now come as an eleven pack....too much brain power will go in to making it an even ten...
on a side note....I do like some of these newer TP without the cardboard roll in the center, more product on the roll, and no cardboard waste to get rid of...
NYCWriter-- Hey, buddy, one man's nasty chemicals are another man's attempt to preserve himself without the expense of cryogenics. L-cysteine monohydrochloride rules!!
Been buying Array extra-soft toilet paper at GFS for the past 3 years or so. Have been pleased, and don't have to use the plunger nearly as often as with Northern, or especially Charmin.
launderess
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IIRC Eggs, Milk and certain other products are regulated
A dozen eggs must be just that. Not sure but think there are guidelines for egg sizes as well.
Consumer Reports for years has been tracking "downsizing" of products and now their members have gotten into things. It seems each month or so CR prints items sent in by consumers that have shrunk everything from ice cream to breakfast cereal.
A dozen eggs must be just that. Not sure but think there are guidelines for egg sizes as well.
Consumer Reports for years has been tracking "downsizing" of products and now their members have gotten into things. It seems each month or so CR prints items sent in by consumers that have shrunk everything from ice cream to breakfast cereal.
launderess
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Baking
Since one does all cakes and breads from scratch package sizes aren't a problem per se, but that does not mean we have not been affected.
IIRC one posted several months ago that 5lb bags of sugar are rarely that anymore. Domino and many other brands are down to 4lb bags. This of course means depending upon how much sugar various recipes call for, you'll need more bags yearly (or whatever depending how often one bakes/cooks) to get the same as before.
Since one does all cakes and breads from scratch package sizes aren't a problem per se, but that does not mean we have not been affected.
IIRC one posted several months ago that 5lb bags of sugar are rarely that anymore. Domino and many other brands are down to 4lb bags. This of course means depending upon how much sugar various recipes call for, you'll need more bags yearly (or whatever depending how often one bakes/cooks) to get the same as before.
I wouldn't think "greenies"-Tree Huggers would be happy about these downsized packages-Not only "GYP YOU" pricing,sizing-but more spent containers going to the landfills.
whirlcool
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One of our friends had sewer problems in her house and had to have the Roto Rooter service out twice to fix it. On the second visit the Roto Rooter guy said to stop using Charmin, it clogs the sewer pipes. So they switched brands and had no further problems. I just thought it was an isolated incident as we have used Charmin for years with no problems at all at any of the homes we have lived in.
But just as a precaution we now use Angel Soft. Why tempt fate. It sounds like this Charmin problem is bigger than I thought!
But just as a precaution we now use Angel Soft. Why tempt fate. It sounds like this Charmin problem is bigger than I thought!
mich
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If your one who cares...
Angel Soft is made by Gerogia Pacfic, and is owned by two brothers who have some quite interesting political views. I wouldn't personally purchase there products, because of my believes, and I don't wanna support them.
Just Google them.. and I'm not gonna hide it, (I'm Gay) Surprise! Anyhow, they've donated a lot, and I mean a lot (millions), of money to political parties (on purpose) that don't exactly care for my personal believes, and I'd assume quite a few fellow members on here, too.
Angel Soft is made by Gerogia Pacfic, and is owned by two brothers who have some quite interesting political views. I wouldn't personally purchase there products, because of my believes, and I don't wanna support them.
Just Google them.. and I'm not gonna hide it, (I'm Gay) Surprise! Anyhow, they've donated a lot, and I mean a lot (millions), of money to political parties (on purpose) that don't exactly care for my personal believes, and I'd assume quite a few fellow members on here, too.
mich
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Here's what they make...
For anyone curious.
For anyone curious.
Thanks Mich.
There is a nice phone app called Buycott that let's you scan an item's barcode and it will tell you who made it and if there is any ongoing protest against the company. I will hunt for an obscure brand before those brothers get a penny from me.
There is a nice phone app called Buycott that let's you scan an item's barcode and it will tell you who made it and if there is any ongoing protest against the company. I will hunt for an obscure brand before those brothers get a penny from me.
It started with namby-pamby ice-cream eating wusses . . .
. . . who said nary a word when "premium" ice cream brands shrank from a half-gallon to 1.75 quarts to 1.5 quarts to, mark my word, eventually a quart for the same price. Then it spread like a cancer to every shape and price-point: round, blocks, oblong tubs, supermarket house brands, drug store chain brands and generics alike.
The right response at the time: a boycott of every brand no longer sold in half-gallons until whole warehouses of the stuff were on the verge of unmarketable spoilage. But it's too late now for ice cream. Other makers of consumer products were watching and marveled at how easy it was to hoodwink these spineless American consumers.
Now, when Jimmy Dean shrank their sausage chub from a pound to 12 ounces, there was a right and proper uprising, and that's why nearly every brand of bulk sausage is still sold in 1-pound chubs.
. . . who said nary a word when "premium" ice cream brands shrank from a half-gallon to 1.75 quarts to 1.5 quarts to, mark my word, eventually a quart for the same price. Then it spread like a cancer to every shape and price-point: round, blocks, oblong tubs, supermarket house brands, drug store chain brands and generics alike.
The right response at the time: a boycott of every brand no longer sold in half-gallons until whole warehouses of the stuff were on the verge of unmarketable spoilage. But it's too late now for ice cream. Other makers of consumer products were watching and marveled at how easy it was to hoodwink these spineless American consumers.
Now, when Jimmy Dean shrank their sausage chub from a pound to 12 ounces, there was a right and proper uprising, and that's why nearly every brand of bulk sausage is still sold in 1-pound chubs.
