This Red Goat light duty disposer is a Old Kitchenaid design ????

[volsboy1]

I picked up this Red-Goat light duty commercial disposer. This thing is built like a TANK. This thing is Heavy Heavy.

It's only 1/2 H.P. with Reverse grind but this one is different on the inside compared to my Old kitchen aids.

The Flywheel is cast out of the same stuff as the grind ring that heavy cast nickel chrome and the hammers are different and

to me look like they would be more effective than the Viking hammers which sometimes had the tendency to bounce things around.

They did not make many of these I think just a few and then they got bought out and combined with Somat,Master-disposer.

I was shocked that it was that old Kitchenaid/National design.The Viking disposers used a zinc flywheel and I did not care for that cause zinc is not that strong of a material.

I never found 1/2 Hp disposers really lacking in power , my National and Maytags never had a problem grinding anything.

That heavy cast flywheel stores a ton of inertia and that does help smash things. Has anybody else seen a Kicthenaid disposer with that type of grind set up ? Mine always had the Viking grind set up .

 

[fisherpaykel]

Kitchenaid, viking hammer grind plate

hi Volsboy, nice to hear from you again. I have a Viking 1000 bought based on your suggestions some few years ago. I am away from home on holiday just now but the cut off pyramid hammer and maybe the raised rectangular one look familiar but I think the rest of the plate is different from the Viking and yes chicken bone joint cartiledge tends to remain and just bounce around.
how do you rate your new Redgoat versus those last Viking 750/1000's and current Insinkerator Evolution Excels? While expensive I wonder when my Viking gives out how the Insinkerator LC50 compares as well.

 

[volsboy1]

Well the In-sink-erator LC-50 is a joke(no offense) so don't waste a ton of money on that.If you want a commercial disposer I have about 5 I think of different brands . I have attached some pics of what a ISE LC 50 commercial looks like on the inside(the last time I looked). I used to have a 1981 Kenmore Sears best disposer and the grind system was the same as that LC-50 that Kenmore looks just like that LC50. There is a fan inside the LC-50 that's why it looks taller cause its a continuous duty motor. I have a 1969 ISE 77 that is made like a tank that has fixed hammers,which I have attached a pic also, those old ISE with those fixed hammers and cast everything grinds GREAT.

I have not used the Red-goat at all save for plugging it in to make sure it runs. The hammers are flat unlike the the Viking half moon on the ends.

 

[tolivac]

The Red Goat disposers I have met were commercial industrial ones that was in a college cafeteria.It was like 10Hp and offset neck.It would eat anything you threw in it-Spoons,small plates,milk cartons,large bones and so on.The offset neck design meant it wouldn't throw things back at you.Ran from 3ph power.So remember the bright red body,too!And that angry goat logo!!!

 

[volsboy1]

Yea, my Aunt and Uncle they used to own a chain of IGA grocery stores in Louisiana in the late 80s. I remember my uncle showing me there 10 H.P. Red-goat disposer with a shit ton of raw bones and everything. There had to be 500 + pounds in that sink and it was poof gone ... The other store was new and bigger and they had 3 disposers in there.

They had a Hobart 1.5 H.P. and then they had one of those Garbel disposers /hammer-mill and the big one was I don't

know the name but it had like a Genie on the side of it.

 

On another note I am really impressed on how well that Red-goat of mine is put together. The triple breaker bars protrude farther on the grinding ring  and are sharp and that also is true for the whole shredder ring. That nicron heavy flywheel is much better than that cast zinc.

I still don't understand why they only made one these  that I know of?

 

 

[tolivac]

The Garbell disposers ring a bell to me-Saw two 5Hp ones while going on a self guide tour of the battleship "Alabama"They discharged thru a scupper out the side of the ship hull!Belt driven no less-too!Interesting machines.

 

[stevet]

All in the family!

Wes, first of all, good to see you posting again here. Hope all is well with you.
If you or anyone else is not aware, Red Goat was bought by ITW some years back when Standex Corp broke up its brands and sold them to a number of different companies. It is now part of ITW Food Equipment Group, which includes Somat, Hobart, Vulcan, Masterbilt, Stero and a number of other companies.

It is no wonder that Red Goat would have a disposer that looks just like the old KA disposers. There must have been some deal made that Hobart could keep that design for commercial disposers while Whirlpool also got the design and then sold it to Viking. Or for all we know, Hobart licensed the design to Red Goat to sell.

I can't vouch for any of the details, but I will say that they were nearly indestructible as you well know. You did not mention what the model or serial numbers were on your example and Red Goat does not show anything like it in their current catalog. Maybe if you can list it, we can find some more information on it.

 

[volsboy1]

Sure the model number is E50

serial number is 011596EE072 and it says Standex ,Murfreesboro Tenn.on the side.

I don't know when this was made , cause now Red goat is in Penn and combined with Master disposers..