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the picture barely scratches the surface, being mere clutter. It's the level that approaches hoarding that, while perhaps at the risk of broaching such a sensitive subject, bears examination. As Socrates said, the unexamined life is not worth living, and there is some degree of truth in that. I, for one, found the article in Retro Renovation to be of some worth and that is why I posted it. YMMV.
 
That just reminds me that I'm a real hoarder but unlike most, it makes me feel good to pile things up. When I was a kid, I remember my grandparents getting rid of most of their interesting possessions to live in a smaller space. They were fine with that but I wasn't! That's probably why I have a dozen of GE toaster ovens (I missed theirs so much) and quite a few Philips 12 cup coffee makers like they had. That way, if I ever have to get rid of one like they did, I should still have a few extras!

There's no way I could see myself downsizing anything. I can find the appeal of "Less is more" but I couldn't live in an empty space without filling it up!
 
Thank you for posting that

I have found that I tend to accumulate the most when I am unhappy. It's like I am expecting to find joy packed inside an old appliance. I am no longer bringing home anything because someone should save it. If I can't think of where to put it myself or come up with a half-assed excuse for it, it won't come home.

I am likely in my last house. I know how big the rooms are. I can't bullshit myself in believing that I need more stoves or refrigerators for my next house.

I have my favorite things in the house. Then, I have the excess in the garage. Slowly, the stuff in the garage is going to new homes. It's too much work to wipe it all down and post it at once. It's also a bit sad to see it go. I sold three jukeboxes earlier this year. I had bought the first because it was close to what I wanted, then found the second because it was what I wanted. Then, the third showed up locally. I am glad that 1500 lbs of my life is gone. I am thrilled that they went to a guy that's restoring them. Lord knows, I wasn't.

I can't say that I am normal. I sure as hell can't be a minimalist. Living a vintage life means having spare parts and things. I don't collect microwaves, but I have an RR-4D in the basement in case the RR-2 acts up.

I do see the point of the author. I made an inventory list about five years ago. I marked everything as keep, sell or undecided. I found that working to get rid of the sell items was easiest. Most of the undecided items are still here. Sometimes my reluctance to let go is my concern about finding a good home. That was the issue with the jukeboxes, but I found one! I have also put every dollar from what has sold into restoring something on my keep list. That has made the pain of letting go easier.
 
You're welcome Travis...

I found it very insightful, and hope others will take the time to actually read it. I guess it comes down to what inner need is being fulfilled by accumulating large quantities of material stuff, and more importantly, why. It's enough to keep many a shrink busy. I had to get rid of several rooms stuffed full of electronics when we moved to NY, and after doing so it felt really great, actually. Trying to actually walk the walk over the last 5 - 6 years we're now down from 4 houses to 2, 5 boats to 1, 8 cars to 5 (the hardest for me), 10 vintage outboards down to 1, 5 vintage KA dishwashers to 1, and now just 1 vintage range, oven, and washer (luckily those never got too far out of hand). Can't say I miss any of them all that much, and when I found I didn't necessarily need to own things to appreciate them, it like a big weight being lifted off. As I said YYMV, some like piles of stuff... Anyone want 50 Christmas window candles and big boxes full of vintage car literature? Our next house will be a small one!
 
A very interesting article. Like the grandmother in the article, my grandparents lived through the Depression and had a similar mentality.

While I definitely did inherit that tendency, it's a weakened version. I also spent several years with roommates who were incredible hoarders. Dealing with their estate forced me to take a look at my own habits. I found I didn't tend to accumulate an excessive amount of any one thing. However, I wanted ONE back-up for EVERYthing. So my deal with myself is that if I find a third which is better, one of the 2 I have has to go. so far it's worked out.

So where's my weakness? Clothes, paperwork/financial records, books (big one for me!), shoes (because I can't wear regular shoes). When I look at that stuff, I realized that my decisions to save them were correct AT THAT TIME. I was RIGHT to save those things and more often than not I had very good EXTERNAL reasons to back up my decisions. Example: I look at shoes and say to myself, "These shoes are old, but still good for 'X'." If my life has changed and I'm unlikely to do 'X' in the foreseeable future, I donate the shoes.

The kicker is that (as some of you know) my life has been turned upside down so many times in the last 15 years that I've lost count. Point? The reasons I saved the stuff are GONE. I no longer have a reason to keep those things. Therefore they can go. End of story.

What do I do about it? I've figured out a system that works for me and doesn't require much thought. This is important because I'm usually exhausted when I finally get around to clearing things out.

First, I set up 4 boxes: Definitely Keep, Not Sure - keep it for now , & Definitely GO (one box for trash/recycle & one for donation)

Second, I grab a random box (it's important not to think about which box) and sort EVERYTHING in it into one of the 4 empty boxes.

Third, whenever one of the 4 is full, I stop and close it up. If it's Def Keep or Not Sure it goes back onto an EMPTY section of shelving. Donation boxes get stacked up in a corner. Def GO boxes get taken out of my apartment IMMEDIATELY.

I've found that on average, if I go through 5 boxes (usually NOT efficiently packed), I end up with one. to Keep, one Not Sure and two to GO. I started with 5 boxes on my shelves and ended with just TWO. Progress is made without trauma :-)

For washers and other appliances:

If you're looking at 6 of something, ask yourself:
1. Is it working?
2. Is it in demand (or would it be if working)?
3. Is there someone in your family fascinated with it and who wants it at some point in the future?

If any of the 6 gets a NO on all three, pick ONE to go.

If an item needs fixing, ask yourself what the likelihood of you getting the time, the energy, the tools, the co-operation from other people, etc. needed to fix it is. An item that gets "not very likely"...goes. Notice I didn't say anything about you own personal willingness to invest in repairing it. YOU are just the beginning; the rest of the planet has to co-operate. Sad, but true. if you realize you'll probably never be able to fix a washer/coffee maker/etc. because of outside factors, accept it, but don't take ownership. Why not? Because you don't control the outside factors.

If you have multiple collections of multiple items and you've already decided you need to pare down, I would only sell/donate ONE item from each collection at a time. The goal is to make your collections manageable, not to stop collecting!

I hope I've made some sense.

Jim
 
I asked someone how to be sure you were a collector and not a hoarder. They told me that if stuff was organized, packed properly, in good shape, like mint in box, then you are a collector and not a hoarder. Things that are rare can be less than perfect.

John, Jeff and I have worked, wished and dreamed for more than 30 years to have certain appliances, like representative models of all of the washer-dryer combinations made in this country and other things like the Westinghouse 1000 pair. Our dreams have largely come to fruition. I feel that we are holding these treasures in trust; for whom, I don't know, but there are things like Guardian Service with those beautiful glass domed covers that just command respect bordering on reverence and there are many other things like that.
 
I have large collections of vacuum cleaners,books,CD and records,cassettes,DVDs and laserdisc movies.Add to that an unspecified number of guns and ammo,lighting equipment,movie posters and banners.Its like the Smihsonian-I can only display or look at items some at a time-then rotate them.Just hving these things is what I like and makes me feel good.Visitors do like seeing the vacuums and lights and show them guns if they want to see them.I keep those out of sight otherwise.And like another on here lots of electronic gear-Hi fi stuff-some movie projectors-8MM,16MM and one 35MM.A huge box of movie trailers-35 MM came from an old theater.Some of them could be valueable!Most are unplayed-keep them that way.Still in the orig pack and reels.If I had minimal "stuff" that would drive me nuts in another way.NO STUFF TO PLAY WITH!
 
The things that many of us collect are like mileposts of innovation, design and technological achievements. I grew up in a house filled with books. They were used, consulted and read to us when we were young. A house without reading material would seem sterile in the bad sense of the word.
 
In the book as it appears in the link, there is a picture of a minimalist 50s room. I would much rather spend time with the people in the room with all of the tchotchkes. It would be a more interesting place and the people probably more fun as well. Hell, at least there are things you can ask questions about and there are probably entertaining stories behind each object. I have been in a few junk stores that I thought were small corners of heaven put down in my path.
 
Minimalism can be taken too far...

that's for sure. The extreme sterile look in decor can make one uncomfortable, there needs to be some balance there. But we're really talking more about the amassing of extremely large amounts of something, in some cases just randomly, in which case clearly there's a subconscious hoarding problem, something actually defined and catagorized in the latest DSM V.

In other cases there's actually some kind a method or purpose to it, the etiology of which is not nearly so clear. In some cases perhaps due a desire to preserve, in others due to boredom or to use available time, and yet others to a particular fascination taken to an extreme, the latter I'd attribute to my own excessive obsessive (and it does become obsessive, when, like me, you spend time daily in pursuit of the next and the next and the next) collecting of vintage electronics: 10s of thousands of vacuum tubes, rooms full of old electronic stuff which I'd never in a million years use, or be able to enjoy, cabinets and cabinets of old literature, 15-20 consoles, hundreds of electronics books, stacks of testing equipment... in all most of a 3 car garage, 2 rooms, and 2 sheds. I even used to advertise for more stuff "WANTED" in the local "Pennysaver" publications in several states! The occasional $25 mother lode "find" that would sell for several Grand (which did happen 3 or 4 times) would just motivate me even more to continue the "treasure hunt". When I finally was forced by a move to NY and had to pay movers by the pound - I'd NEVER have done it voluntarily - to give almost all of it away to another "collector" it actually turned out to be one of my best days ever, a huge weight removed. Right then vowed to never get so overwhelmed with "stuff" again. Aside from the occasional slip up I've pretty much kept true to that. Along with attenuating the constant "searches" (a sure clue), periodic "purges" keep things well controlled now.

Seems to me collecting vs hoarding is an important distinction with a very fine line. Collecting vintage items of whatever genre in order to preserve them from destruction and actually sharing/helping others ala hosting or a museum, is laudable, within reason. To pile up in order to "squirrel" away stuff in order to satisfy some insatiable endorphin rush of acquisition, and not use in any real functional way, seems a bit out of kilter. Sort of like the guy in Michigan who owns the only 2 surviving Baldwin Sharknose (ex D & H) diesel engines and shut them away in a hidden warehouse off limits to other rail buffs to see, obviously just to have them safely for himself, or art collectors who shut masterpieces away from the public eye to satisfy their particular artistic lust... well, not so good. It's complicated stuff, all in all a good subject for a PhD thesis, if not already done.
 
Blank body of post fully intended to show "too minimalistic."

I wonder, sometimes, if some people who aren't super minimalists don't have some sort of psychological issues, just as people who hoard have issues.
 
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