Thread Title: "I am not Gay" or Just Desserts or Tappy McHappy Pants

[whirlcool]

This is shocking to say the least.
But I don't understand WHY in the world someone would want to have sex in the bathroom to begin with. Most public bathrooms are just teeming with bacteria. Jeesh, I could never imagine doing it. Also, the possibilities of embarrassment are sky high!

I imagine our dear Larry Craig is now feeling embarrassed almost out of existance! I personally think that the best thing he could do to prevent further scandal is just to come out and apologize for his actions. And then to just come out!

 

[maggie~hamilton]

He could never come out

He could never come out

What will happen is exactly what has happened with all these other liars and frauds. He will go "into retreat" at some fundie rest farm somewhere, then come out [pun intended] a month later proclaiming "God has healed me and delivered me of my sinful lifestyle."

All will be forgiven by his doting wife (fag hag) and followers (self-righteous bigots), and before you know it he'll be back in the saddle good as new and better than ever.

And, having learned from his mistake, will be far more discreet when groveling about in public toilets.

Yep. You can count on it.

P.S.:

I agree that sex in any public place is disgusting, especially the filthy, malodorous cesspool that a public toilet is. Especially one in a busy metropolitan airport. Ewwwwk. I can barely stand to go into one of them long enough to take a pee when I =HAVE= to.

But there is a subset in the gay community who find that idea quite alluring. Back in the dark ages, mens' rooms were quaintly called "Tea Rooms" and toilet sex was called "Tea Parties." To those really stepped in the tradition, so to speak, the ranker and filthier the toilet, the better.

There's just no accounting for taste, I suppose.

 

[Unimatic1140]

But I don't understand WHY in the world someone would want to have sex in the bathroom to begin with.
I couldn't agree more with you Allen, the whole idea is gross. As Maggie said above, it's a hold over from 60 years ago when the majority of gay men were forced to stay in the closet and had no other outlet for taking care of their natural human instinct. But for most part, to the out younger generations the whole idea is completely unnecessary, not to mention gross.

By the way, Matt Forman the head of the National Lesbian and Gay task force made a statement to the effect of why is the Minneapolis tax payers money being wasted on plain-clothes cops patrolling bathrooms at the Airport. Well in a rare turn of events I do not agree with Matt this time. As a proud gay liberal Minneapolis tax payer I am in total agreement with the Metropolitan Airport Commission this time, there is a time and a place for everything and the airport is not one of them.

Apparently there are over 100 rest rooms at MSP, but this one rest room in particular is listed on an international web site as a place to find this kind of behavior. Now what an "unfortunate coincidence" that this happened to be the one rest room that this Senator got caught in.

 

[toggleswitch]

Don't you just LOVE hypocrytes? Especially the ones who throw around judgements, self-righteousness and moral indignations, yet they themselves are nowhere near "pure".

Methinks a hooker that gives her last dollar to feed a homeless person or donates to a chilren's charity has far more redeeming social value than the church-goer who is there to watch who comes and goes and gossip about others' hair, nails and weight and outfits and spread half-truths and rumors.

At least (s)he (the mythical hooker) has espoused her sexuality and is not putting on false airs. Those who supress their true instincts often find those instincts surfacing in rather inconvenient ways.

As for closeted men. They are often the most desperate horny/randy, dangerous risk-takers and are emotionally unbalanced/explosive. Teh menatality? "I'm not gay so I won't catch anyting" WANNA BET? No glove, no love. This include YOU mister macho. It never pays to lie to oneself; and we fags "See right through you", because where you are now, I once was. Been there. Done that, got the T shirt.

There is nowhere to run and hide. G-d sees all! And so do the neighbors.

As Quentin Crisp once said- Now that we all live in glass houses the only thing you can do is learn to urninate elegantly.

 

[maggie~hamilton]

Disease

God only knows what sorts of diseases and filth this man (and others like him) may have brought home to their loving wives. Wonder if she's ever had to get treated for Crabs, or stabbed in the butt with a huge needle-full of penicillin for the Clap. To say nothing of HIV or the other host of vile possibilities.

 

[alexb1186]

He's probably a cruiser

"Cruising" is kind of a DL thing here in Mid-MO, especially at the Cosmo Park and even at Binder Park in Jeff City. KRCG, the CBS station in CoMO/Jeff City, did a report on cruising in November 05 and even the reporter got asked for a handjob (not on camera)

Robert, I think that cruising website is the one that ends in .org if memory recollects me. They have listings of all the gyms, spas, adult bookstores, parks, bathrooms, etc. The users on there give reviews on if they were able to get some, if there are cops patrolling, even post messages i.e. "Will be at Lowe's men's room around noon, and looking for a few good men." And Missouri has a lot of listings. And for all I know this Larry Craig could be a regular on there

I swear some of these Republicans are just turning out to be a bunch of douchebag hypocrites when it comes to anti-gay crapola. And why the F do they care whether Bob and Dan get married? Why is it any of their concern? Does it affect them personally? To quote Wanda Sykes, if they want to "protect the sanctity of marriage," make divorce unconstitutional.

He could join the Log Cabin Republicans, he could be gay AND Republican, which I still don't understand myself. You'd be joining the party that's all out to get you and prevent you from certain rights.

 

[toggleswitch]

You better work. Work it girl . Do your thing on the runway.

~if they want to "protect the sanctity of marriage," make divorce unconstitutional.
Or better yet, behave in a manner that makes one believe you value YOUR marriage.

~And why the F do they care whether Bob and Dan get married?

Because if B&D (oh now THAT Is funny)get married and society accepts the situation, the closet cases have less reason to stay in their relationships with women. They will get the same rights and privileges and social status following their true heart and instincts by being with a man. They may not have to fear societal rejection as 'mos. Apparently, society fears an avalance of gay marriages. This may indicate that there are more on the fence (and that more discontent brews) than one may suspect.

Str8 men may not have realized this, but when gays finally begin to get legally get married, alimony and child-support laws may become more gender-blind or disappear to a degree. This will perhaps help them avoid being some ungrateful ex-spouse's meal-ticket for two decades or more. You wanted out? Get off your @$$ and work. There will perhaps be fewer automatic financial priviledges for throwing your heels up to heaven and shouting "JEEEEZUS come to me"

 

[goprog]

Hypocrites - through and through. I was confused last night.
I was relating it to the incident in Florida and was wondering
why the big todo about it again. I'm on the fence about paying
police to look for this kind of thing. If we're talking about
adults - it's none of their business - as long as it is taken
somewhere else than a public bathroom with the possibility
children might be in the area. When children aren't involved,
then it's a matter of what is acceptable/unacceptable whether
it be same or opposite sex couples. Same laws and enforcement
for either.

What I WAS upset about was the news saying it was the biggest
story across the country. This was the same day Bush was
saber-rattling and saying he was going to protect our troops
from (unproven) danger from Iran by whatever means necessary.
The tone of his voice was just disgusting. THIS is the person
all our law enforcement agencies SHOULD be targetting.

 

[peterh770]

If this were a Democrat, the public lynching would have alre

No, if it was a Democrat, the only place you would hear about it is on conservative talk radio. The media has field days when a conservative Republican screws up.

Not for nothing, regardless of party affiliation, when an elected official is found doing something illegal at worst and gross at best, that person should step down. No citizen should be represented by someone who cannot seem act appropriate to the office for which he was elected (let alone appropriate social etiquette).

 

[gansky1]

I read today that Fox News (We Distort, You Decide) had 38 seconds of coverage of this Craig affair yesterday. I wonder how much time the comedian Rush Limbaugh spent on this subject today? The Repubeicans seem to have a very well-honed talent for sweeping disagreeable news about their members under the rug quickly. I'll bet Alberto was thrilled to see Larry Craig come swishing out of the restroom stall, talk of his own resignation and prior wrongdoing, likely illegal as well, was all but forgotten.

Here is an audio file interview with one of Larry Craig's former restroom tricks in Union Station, D.C. given to the Idahoan Statesman. This goes back to 2004 so 'ol Larry must have a bookmark for quite a few cruisin places to visit.

Don't get your hopes up that his seat will be filled with a democratic candidate when it comes up again, the state of Idaho is all but owned and run by the Mormon church - just like Utah.

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2007/08/28/12/craigsource_1-2.source.prod_affiliate.36.mp3

 

[goatfarmer]

I don't get the whole restroom thing, either. Gay, straight, or indifferent, the last place I'm looking for some action is the restroom......

kennyGF

 

[washertalk]

I agree with you Ken.

I know I sometimes inflict self depricating humor that has sexual overtones, buy really I kindof a prude.

A public bathroom is for "going to the bathroom" and washing hands, and maybe checking your hair. That's it.

I remember 10 years ago when I first started "coming out" I was perturbed at the police trying to stop the cruising in Madison, WI city parks(as I am sure they did in other cities). But why should we Beautiful Gay people be relegated to such dangerous circumstances? We deserve better.

Today, if you want that, go on line.

And yes there are people who actually like glory holes. WHY? It's like a form of denial. It seems so archaic. (by Archaic I mean a bad greedy insecure, pastey white male, republican inspired idea from the first 1/2 of the 1900's)

And NO,
the media at this time,
without The Fairness Doctrine in place,
and with 90% of the media ownership being by a few republican biased sources
DOES treat Democrats differently than sleazy republicans.
In times of Scandal, which for republicans is sooooo often, gone as far as changing the (R), that would indicate republican, that would accompany an individuals name to (D), that would indicate Democrat, when reporting on yet another republican piece of white-trash in an effort to create confusion. It's documented.

People we need the Fairness Doctrine. It, much like Unions, and fair taxes on people and corporations making more than $125,000 a year, IS GOOD!

Ask for it at your local grocer. (bling)
Or better yet contact your elected officials, who are government servants here to serve EACH of us.

http://mediamatters.org/

 

[maggie~hamilton]

As expected,

The Conservatives are scrambling to distance themselves from this man and his scandal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6969703.stm

 

[maggie~hamilton]

What I want to know is,

who would find this man - who looks like an elderly Baptist minister, or the head of the local Elks Lodge - sexually attractive. That's -almost- more repulsive than going for some action in a public cesspool.

I guess there ARE gays who find shriveled, flabby, pasty-looking old white men attractive but I sure am not one of them.

(That's the police booking photo below.)

 

[washertalk]

Oh, Now, now ...

(lol)

(everyone has their type)

Yes, he does look creepily like a repressed Baptist. scarey.

 

[alr2903]

Gasp, We love you, DADDY WARBUCKS!, and by the way thanks for another black eye. This time, OUR community will pray for you, and your family. How sad, to live (some part, or all of your life as a lie). alr2903

 

[63getelevision]

He did not age well

These pictures were taken with a quarter inch layer of gauze over the lens. Maggie, get out the make-up kit.

 

[goprog]

From maggie-hamilton's link

Republican Senator Norman Coleman, of Minnesota, called for him to stand down, saying: "Senator Craig pled guilty to a crime involving conduct unbecoming to a senator."

ROFLMAO

Right, and none of the laws they pass indicate anything
unbecoming.

 

[sudsmaster]

I was wondering when this topic would make its way into a thread here...

"Tappy McHappy Pants", lol, paints quite a picture...

Been discussing the incident on a political forum. It's amazing how the conservatives try to turn this around to saying that liberals are anti-gay for even bringing it up. They just don't get it, do they? But they don't have much of a argument with all the prominent Republicans calling for Craig's resignation.

I don't think he should resign... I think he should get some psychiatric help and make a clean breast of things. Maybe get a real boyfriend or something. Perhaps it's not too late.

But please don't mock the man for his age. Bear in mind that all of us, if we are lucky, will get to be his age, or older, and I can pretty much guarantee you won't look like you did at 25 by that point.

 

[toggleswitch]

Bend over, honey, and take your punishment like a man.

Sing it girls....
Where ya gonna go when the beauty fades?
Are ya gonna run? Are ya gonna hide? GET OUTTA THE GAME!

Imagine what a country this would be if lawmakers were to do what was best for the country first, and their political party somewhere further down the list.

I also invite all to look at the judgementalness and vocalness seen above in these posts while we ourselves are not perfect. This is the exact quality we appear to be mocking in the dear, misunderstood senator. Also the average 9 year-old believes in extremes. Always or never, black-and-white perfectly right or perfectly wrong. For those who have matured past that level, the world is a lot more grey; especially true in one's 40's *LOL*

The joy of the universe is that it is round. One does not have to lift a finger for justice. Justice will be served and come about all on its own. He will pay for his actions dearly. His greatest fear (to be treated as a poor disguisting low-life homo because, after all, he is "straight") is exactly what he will be getting.

I bless you dear senator, but I bless you AWAY from me. May you receive as much forgivenss and compassion as you have given from your own heart to others. So be it and so it is.