Tide Original HE powder

[helicaldrive]

Just bought a new box.

My old box was 4+ years old. It lasted forever because any more than a teaspoon or two caused an oversuds.

The new box is so different! They must have changed the formula. The scent is barely noticeable. And I can use a tablespoon or two without getting an oversuds. It’s much more effective and rinses more easily than the old box.

I was satisfied with the old box, but this latest formula is a significant improvement.

 

[launderess]

P&G Seems Finally To Have Gotten Wise

Days of old school top loaders are over. Detergents must work in HE/H-axis or whatever washers, and that means rinsing cleanly in less water.

P&G long has known how to produce powdered or even liquid detergents that work well in front loaders. They've been doing it in Europe for years. But they stuck American housewives and others who do laundry with various poor performing versions of "HE" Tide.

Guess Henkel's Persil has shaken P&G up a bit. That and people are wising up that there are other detergents which work well as Tide (but without the tons of suds), in HE or other washers.

 

[helicaldrive]

Wondering about the liquid

Also have a several years old bottle of Tide Original Turbo HE and it too was high suds tough rinse, so I’m wondering if the Iiquit has been reformulated too.

 

[gyrafoam]

When I purchased My Frigidaire Front-Loader back in 1997 it came with a few sample boxes of the (then new) Tide HE.
The instructions on the little box was to use the whole thing for one wash.

It took two full cycles to get the sudz out.

Needless to say, I didn't bother with HE detergents for a long time afterwards.
Following Martin's advice, I began using Tide with Bleach powder in my front-loaders and have had great results. It does a great job in my old top-loaders as well.

Greg and I discussed the new modern detergents the other night and we agreed they are the best detergents we have ever seen here in the US.

I have not completely used up my (once vast) supply of old-school phosphated powders, and when I do finally use the last of them, at least I have detergents available that do a great job without the phosphates.

 

[launderess]

Same here

First front loader (Malber, Italian Merloni washer), came with a sample box of Tide "HE", or so it said.

Fool that I am used entire box; it was Bobby Brady does laundry all over.

Thankfully this was during business hours and one frantic call to Malber service department solved problem. Was advised to drain machine of water, then pour some sort of oil (olive, mineral, etc...) into drum then let machine fill and complete one cycle. That did it and never touched Tide HE again for some time.

 

[golittlesport]

It takes a long time to break old habits

I think most Americans wanted to see some suds during their wash cycles. After decades of detergent marketing telling them "when you see a good, thick layer of Tide's suds you know your wash is getting clean," they came to believe it. Of course that was a carry over from the days of soap, and in the case of soap it was true. Not true with detergents.

As washing machines and laundry habits slowly changed, many folks could not believe their clothes could get clean without gobs of suds and huge amounts of water. P&G gave their customers what they wanted, not what they needed.

P&G and other manufacturers have finally wised up, and maybe because their customers have too. Today's detergents do a much better job without generating foam, improving the machines performance -- whether you are using a front loader or top loader, vintage or modern machine.

 

[tomturbomatic]

The original Tide HE powder came out in the late 80s-early 90s and was recommended for machines by the manufacturers: Asko, Creda, Frigidaire, GE, Kenmore, Maytag Neptune & Miele, with their trademarks or marcas registradas according to the side panel of a box that I saved. This was after the condensed, low sudsing versions of the P&G detergents that came out in the 80s with the small scoops in the small boxes It was very low sudsing. Then it changed, became higher sudsing and the manufacturers' names were dropped.[this post was last edited: 8/4/2019-12:11]

 

[kenwashesmonday]

Suds and more suds.

A scene from Dennis the Menace:

 

[DADoES]

 
Appears to be a dressed-up Whirlpool.

 

[helicaldrive]

Agree with Gyrafoam

Hi Steve!

Very much agree that modern detergent is vastly better today than years ago. Especially Persil, which outperforms anything at my house but Tide is a great alternative. Woolite is also great for cleaning knit shirts but being kind to them.

Anyway, seems that modern detergents give the best cleaning, yet are the easiest on clothes that I have ever seen. And keeping whites white is no challenge anymore as long as I do extra rinses.

I never buy stain treating products anymore, or even stress about stains. I just put Persil Stain Fighter on the stain, set it aside for 15 to 30 minutes, throw it in the machine and the stain is gone! It has never failed me. I never pre-scrub stains anymore. Or dirty white socks. They come out sparkling clean with no pretreatment.

Not only are detergents much better but so are washers. FLs are much better than old school top loaders, and provide much more effective washing action. When water efficiency regs came out I was so dismayed but it’s amazing how at least the FL HE washers are much better than old school FLs or TLs. The old school FLs had too much water for effective wash action; the clothes just rolled around instead of getting the suds water forced through them through dropping action.

Life is good.

The first no phosphate detergents were abominable. Clothes came out faded, linty and not clean.

 

[liamy1]

Word to the wise

Whilst I'll admit they haven't done this for a while, at one time (over this side of the pond) P&G had an annoying habit of constantly swinging between sudsy, sticky, never ending rinsing detergents and then loose, free, barely there suds in their formulations (and then back again)

This is why amongst U.K. members with more than a passing interest will confirm - it's always been agreed that Unilever's detergents (Persil and Surf) are cleaner rinsing than the P&G line up here.

I'd go ages being very happy with Ariel, Bold... whatever, washing well, rinsing great and then bang a reformulate and then suds coming out the drawer and constant rinsing. Made all the more worse by the fact that I have extremely soft water, which is VERY unforgiving of detergent overdosing in the first place. So would mix it up with Persil for a while and then would take another try.

It was the weirdest thing, the constant back and forth (assuming the never ending tinkering with the formulas so they can always say new and improved - suppose it's something you'd never think about - there are people out there whose job is to go to work everyday to tinker with/test detergent formulas)