Great looking machines! However unavailable here. In the past Gorenje products were sold under the Hollandia label, but that was ages ago.
Time for a new washer - new gorenje wave active line
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Thank you Louis,
I didn't know this. Does Hollandia brand still exists?
Gorenje is present in the Netherlands with their brands ATAG, Pelgrim and Etna.
I didn't know this. Does Hollandia brand still exists?
Gorenje is present in the Netherlands with their brands ATAG, Pelgrim and Etna.
rolls_rapide
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UPO
I think Which? once commented upon the Finnish UPO brand in a washing machine test in the late sixties.
I think Which? once commented upon the Finnish UPO brand in a washing machine test in the late sixties.
Yes UPO are now Gorenje machines, but in the past they were also rebadget Italian ARDO or Turkish Vestel or something else. Or just pristine Finnish made real UPOs. The most famous were their compact toploading tumble action washers.
The Hollandia label still exists, but only for microwaves and fridges AFAIK. Haven't seen Hollandia washing machines in ages.
Yes, I know of Atag, Pelgrim and Etna. Those were the three main manufacturers of gas stoves in the Netherlands.
Yes, I know of Atag, Pelgrim and Etna. Those were the three main manufacturers of gas stoves in the Netherlands.
l86810
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Hey Ingemar,
I've only found this manual so far.
If you follow the link, the manual is downloadable by clicking the book icon further down the page, under support/document section.
I've only found this manual so far.
If you follow the link, the manual is downloadable by clicking the book icon further down the page, under support/document section.
rolls_rapide
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Ukranian user manual
Interesting, thanks for posting link.
I see (with copying and pasting the text into google translator) that the transit bars and brackets are removed, but the screws are replaced and plastic covers fitted.
On my Panasonic, the bars, brackets and screws are removed, and there were no bungs to cover the holes.
I would say, on balance, that the Gorenje machine seems to be the more polished machine with attention to detail. I am quite impressed!
Interesting, thanks for posting link.
I see (with copying and pasting the text into google translator) that the transit bars and brackets are removed, but the screws are replaced and plastic covers fitted.
On my Panasonic, the bars, brackets and screws are removed, and there were no bungs to cover the holes.
I would say, on balance, that the Gorenje machine seems to be the more polished machine with attention to detail. I am quite impressed!
Yes Ukrainian user manual ... interesting
Thank you Adam ;-)
Now I've found also the Serbian user manual. It's also interesting to see that on some models there is a light indicator which turns on when it's time to clean the pump filter.
... I'm becoming impatient
Thank you Adam ;-)
Now I've found also the Serbian user manual. It's also interesting to see that on some models there is a light indicator which turns on when it's time to clean the pump filter.
... I'm becoming impatient
Here it is finally ...
Hello guys, so my new Gorenje Waveactive is here. I bought the one without the steam generator because those are not yet for sale and I was impatient to have a new washer. I made 3 loads including an extremly dirty loads of whites.
So far I'm very happy with it. The spin cycles are much better than the previous sensocare generation, so no more annoying distibutions of the load before stating.
Hello guys, so my new Gorenje Waveactive is here. I bought the one without the steam generator because those are not yet for sale and I was impatient to have a new washer. I made 3 loads including an extremly dirty loads of whites.
So far I'm very happy with it. The spin cycles are much better than the previous sensocare generation, so no more annoying distibutions of the load before stating.
It hase lots of programs, the doseaid feature which according to the load determines how much detergent must be added. The ion wash which adds ionized air and lots of other options....
The thing I love the most is the new recirculating spray because it is so powerful.
The thing I love the most is the new recirculating spray because it is so powerful.
rolls_rapide
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Nice machine! The styling looks quite elegant - almost Siemens-y.
I like the pattern of drum holes on your machine. I also like the drum lifters/paddles (similar to Bosch/Siemens but with an actual twist), and the recirculation jet is indeed powerful (old Zanussi style).
Is that an LED drum light in photo #2?
And does this machine have an optical sensor in the sump, like the Panasonics had?
How easy is it to turn the drum by hand?
Turning my machine's drum by hand, I've noticed on my Panasonic (Gorenje made) that:
(a) The drum sometimes seems a little stiff, almost as though something is binding on the drum shaft - occasionally it squeaks;
(b) Other times, the drum mostly gives 'clunks' as it is turned by hand (bearings?);
(c) And on several occasions I've detected an odd drum vibration, a chuntering feel - like when you file down a block of metal which has a 'grain'.
I like the pattern of drum holes on your machine. I also like the drum lifters/paddles (similar to Bosch/Siemens but with an actual twist), and the recirculation jet is indeed powerful (old Zanussi style).
Is that an LED drum light in photo #2?
And does this machine have an optical sensor in the sump, like the Panasonics had?
How easy is it to turn the drum by hand?
Turning my machine's drum by hand, I've noticed on my Panasonic (Gorenje made) that:
(a) The drum sometimes seems a little stiff, almost as though something is binding on the drum shaft - occasionally it squeaks;
(b) Other times, the drum mostly gives 'clunks' as it is turned by hand (bearings?);
(c) And on several occasions I've detected an odd drum vibration, a chuntering feel - like when you file down a block of metal which has a 'grain'.
Gorenje Waveactive
Glad to see you have your new washing machine Ingemar, nothing like unboxing and the "New Smell" , looking forward to hearing your reviews...
The recirculation spray certainly seems very powerful and to soak spray the clothes. is it on all the time and for rinses ??
Cheers, Mike
Glad to see you have your new washing machine Ingemar, nothing like unboxing and the "New Smell" , looking forward to hearing your reviews...
The recirculation spray certainly seems very powerful and to soak spray the clothes. is it on all the time and for rinses ??
Cheers, Mike
Rolls_rapide
Hi, thank you
Well the drum isn't that hard to turn, but also not that "easy" as on a direct drive machine.
My father has a 4 years old Gorenje Sensocare (previuos generation) and it also squeaks sometimes, but I guess al this is because of the belt, because when the machines "heats up" the squeaking stops.
Try to rub the inside of the driving belt with a hard soap. This usualy hepls.
How happy are you with your Panasonic?
Yes that is a LED drum light.
No this machine have not an optical sensor in the pump. My old Use Logic Gorenje from 2005 had it, but I rarely activeted it in the rince cylce.
Hi, thank you
Well the drum isn't that hard to turn, but also not that "easy" as on a direct drive machine.
My father has a 4 years old Gorenje Sensocare (previuos generation) and it also squeaks sometimes, but I guess al this is because of the belt, because when the machines "heats up" the squeaking stops.
Try to rub the inside of the driving belt with a hard soap. This usualy hepls.
How happy are you with your Panasonic?
Yes that is a LED drum light.
No this machine have not an optical sensor in the pump. My old Use Logic Gorenje from 2005 had it, but I rarely activeted it in the rince cylce.
Mike
Hi Mike, thanks mate,
Yes I was so excited because I was waiting for it a long time.
The recirculation spray turns on and off during the wash and rinse cycle. On the Sensocare generation the pump were on constantly after the temperature was reached, but this jet on this machine is more powerful than the previous.
Also the Ionized Air generator turns on and off but on some programs it is on almost constantly.
Hi Mike, thanks mate,
Yes I was so excited because I was waiting for it a long time.
The recirculation spray turns on and off during the wash and rinse cycle. On the Sensocare generation the pump were on constantly after the temperature was reached, but this jet on this machine is more powerful than the previous.
Also the Ionized Air generator turns on and off but on some programs it is on almost constantly.
That is a nice looking machine. I bet it would be fun to use. Did the guy from the first post, come with the machine?
rolls_rapide
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@gorenje:
Thanks, the Panasonic is okay-ish - but to be honest, I expected a bit more quality.
The optical sensor on mine only really seems to detect during the wash. Therefore powders in solution are seen as opaque, lengthening time; liquids generally are seen to be transparent, reducing time.
For rinsing, I think the machine logs the inability to redistribute - and adds a dilution rinse. If the water is too foamy, I think the pressure vessel/sensor detects that, and adds a dilution rinse. I've never gotten the impression that the optical sensor actually had a hand in the rinse decision making.
Things I do like:
> Mixing of detergent by distribution tumbles;
> Powder drawer stays closed - even on violent spin cycles;
> Zero-delay door interlock;
> Large, very easy-to-read display;
> The idea of wash solution recirculation...;
> Filter compartment has a pouring spout (previous Panasonic dribbled water down between the kick-plate and the machine itself).
Things I don't like:
> Attempting to redistribute the load for spinning is irritating;
> Programme times;
> Spins can be a bit violent;
> A small shard of concrete came adrift(!);
> The filter access panel rattles - and would benefit from a Bosch style thumb-release catch - having to resort to screwdrivers to open it is madness;
> The recirculation implementation could have been better executed. This one has a common manifold with three outlets. They have a tendency to clog with lint.
Thanks, the Panasonic is okay-ish - but to be honest, I expected a bit more quality.
The optical sensor on mine only really seems to detect during the wash. Therefore powders in solution are seen as opaque, lengthening time; liquids generally are seen to be transparent, reducing time.
For rinsing, I think the machine logs the inability to redistribute - and adds a dilution rinse. If the water is too foamy, I think the pressure vessel/sensor detects that, and adds a dilution rinse. I've never gotten the impression that the optical sensor actually had a hand in the rinse decision making.
Things I do like:
> Mixing of detergent by distribution tumbles;
> Powder drawer stays closed - even on violent spin cycles;
> Zero-delay door interlock;
> Large, very easy-to-read display;
> The idea of wash solution recirculation...;
> Filter compartment has a pouring spout (previous Panasonic dribbled water down between the kick-plate and the machine itself).
Things I don't like:
> Attempting to redistribute the load for spinning is irritating;
> Programme times;
> Spins can be a bit violent;
> A small shard of concrete came adrift(!);
> The filter access panel rattles - and would benefit from a Bosch style thumb-release catch - having to resort to screwdrivers to open it is madness;
> The recirculation implementation could have been better executed. This one has a common manifold with three outlets. They have a tendency to clog with lint.
@countryford
Hi Justin,
hahahaha I was hoping the same ! It would be so damn good, he is so grrrrrrrrrr
Hi Justin,
hahahaha I was hoping the same ! It would be so damn good, he is so grrrrrrrrrr
@ Rolls_rapide
Thank you for your detailed description. Well I agree with you. Your Panasonic is in fact just a bit different SensoCare machine. So I agree with you on the things you dislike, especially for the distibution on the spin cycle.
This new Waveactive machine also distibute the laundry when it is not properly distributed obviusly, but it does it much better than the SensoCare generation (or your Panasonic)
Thank you for your detailed description. Well I agree with you. Your Panasonic is in fact just a bit different SensoCare machine. So I agree with you on the things you dislike, especially for the distibution on the spin cycle.
This new Waveactive machine also distibute the laundry when it is not properly distributed obviusly, but it does it much better than the SensoCare generation (or your Panasonic)
