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I bought a Waste King Royal compactor for five bucks. I put 100 beer cans in there and then got a wild hair in there and decided to smash the Perrier bottles. OMG!!!!! It smashed them SOOOOO hard that my skin care products FLEW off the top. After wipping away the tears and peeing (well, almost) I checked the broken glass and it was so smashed it couldn't even cut you. This machine claims 6000 pounds of force. My 18 inch Kitchenaid claims 3500 pounds. Is this true????.....Bill in Az......
 
> After wipping away the tears and peeing (well, almost) <

Are you related to the guy here on AW who gets sexually excited by overflowing washers?
 
Steve

The waste King compactor is strange. It has a scissor ram desighn. The KA has a 3 point drive system. The KA has a 1/2 hsp and the WK has a 1/3 hsp. The WK is 12 inches wide.....Bill in Az....
 
"Why are trash compactors so expensive?"The machine has to be built to withstand its own compaction force.The mechanisms have to withstand that as well.and hydraulic models are even more expensive-but look around-go to out of business sales and so forth-There was someone on "YouTube" that bought a Hydraulic Pollution Packer Compactor(Now under the Fox name)for only $50 bucks at a going out of business sale.I could have bought a Marathon compactor from the Lines and Things store that went out of business here.Don't know waht it sold for.But it was HUGE.Would need three phase to run it.But would crunh anything thrown in it.Oh yes-on that Pollution Packer the new owner throws things in it and shows it on YouTube-so far microwave ovens,TV's,Toys.The Pollution Packers are a small vertical hyrdaulic unit with a 1.5 Hp hydraulic system and can run off a 120V 15A outlet.They can develop up to 12,000lbs of force.I have seen these and they are VERY powerful.Would be fun to have-but they are very heavy to move for a small unit.They weigh something like 500lbs!
 
The Whirlpool clones

use a screw drive. My Broan/NuTone has the scissor drive. The Broan claims 5,000lbs, whereas the Whirlpool is 2,000. I have had the Broan for a year now. The compaction cycle is longer than the Whirlpool before it, about the same as the GE we left behind in a former house. I would not hesitate to recommend the Broan.

They are expensive because they have to be built to withstand their own forces. They are heavy, usually a powerful motor and a sturdy drive system.
 
Did It again

Well, my Ex Ed came over last night and after watching Youtube, we found more stuff to smash. Old Vcrs an old pc. To smash the pc I put an empty bottle of Mickey's on top. OMG I thought the air conditioner on the roof was going to pop off. It bent one vcr in half. Fry's here I come. Ed knows how to do this video crap. .....Bill in Az....
 
Trash compactor at home?

Isn't that the job of the bin man? Here in Amsterdam we have garbage trucks with built-in compactors. No need to do that at home. Back in the old days it was a fascinating sight to see old television sets and furniture being crunched and swallowed by the garbage lorry. Nowadays large items are collected separately and simply placed on an open lorry. No more crunching:(
 
Americans

Have a very different system of garbage/refuse/recycling than we do in Europe.
My parents, for example, pay the same amount whether they put out five bags of rubbish which are filled with heavy things or only leaves.
This makes trash compaction highly desirable.

Recycling in the US is also very primitive compare to Europe. For some reason, throwing valuable materials away is considered normal and recycling is 'liberal/socialist/progressive/fascist/Marxist/Leninist...' to many people.

I can put anything I like in a plastic bag and leave it at the curb to be thrown into the dump in Fort Collins. Should I be feeling sufficiently masochistic to want to recycle, I must do the following:
Separate paper into newsprint, colored, black and white, toner printed
Separate cardboard into non-corrugated, single-wall corrugated, multi-ply corrugated
No paper may be accepted which is wax coated or stamped 'food grade'

Plastic is only accepted if absolutely clean and then must be separated into the seven first plastic groups. No mixtures or composites permitted.
No Styrofoam or construction foams.

Glass must be thoroughly washed and separated by color, no flat glass (windows, for instance).

Aluminum must be washed...
Steel is not accepted...

The penalty for even one sheet of paper accidentally placed in the wrong bin is up to $5,000 fine and / or six months in jail.
There are City SS troupes stationed in plain clothes at the recycling site to apprehend and ticket offenders. Resistance is met with handcuffing and criminal charges.
There is exactly one recycling center for a city which is roughly the physical size of Amsterdam.

Realistically, the American compactors make a lot of sense, given their absurd pricing by sack or container, the difficulty of recycling and the lack of interest in sorting and reusing waste.
 
Did I miss something?

Ummm.......do other states NOT have the curb-side recycling pickup? I happen to know for a fact that here all you do is dump your recyclables into the bin and haul it out to the curb on trash day. They do all the sorting when it hits the truck.

Sadly the only things I actually do recycle are aluminum, steel, and glass. Anything else just hits the trash.

Both plastic and paper produce MORE pollution and cost more to recycle than just to make a "new" whatever, so I don't bother chunking them into the recycle bin. Glass, aluminum, and steel or tin are all easily recycled, produce less waste, and cost less to recycle than to create "new" stuff, so those get an A+ in my book.
 
It depends

Cheyenne, Wyoming has a very friendly and good recycling system.
Whether recycling costs more or less depends on too many factors to just say yes or no. It certainly does pay here in Munich, including paper. Both cities have to export their trash to other places, Cheyenne to other states at enormous cost!
Of course, it is also a question of mentality. Fort Collins was home to the second most conservative member of Congress until the fall elections and has done everything possible to make anything the Republicans didn't invent very difficult.
 
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I'm speechless... Nothing seems to have been left unused to put off Americans from recycling.

I must say that I'm frequently annoyed by the fact that some people here are too lazy to separate the paper and plastic and put it all into one container, but the American penalties are way too harsh especially when the rules are so complicated.

About the separate collecting of large garbage items like appliances or furniture in the Netherlands: this has more to do with regulations concerning the maximum weight that a bin man is allowed to lift than recycling. The open lorry has a crane that is used to load the garbage on the car. Bags with waste that are too heavy are not accepted. That's another reason, I think, why trash compactors at home don't seem useful to me. The volume gets smaller but the weight-per-volume increases.
 
Theo,

America was once far ahead of Europe in protecting the environment.
When Democrats run the country, it is a free, beautiful place with progressive ideas.
When Republicans run the country, they do their best to make life hell on earth for gays and to make the country into a Western version of medieval Europe.
 
Oh, Helen, please...

I grew up with a Whirlpool compactor. Noisy, smelly!!! It was difficult to remove the plastic reinforced bag, as it was heavy and the pressure of the compacted rubbish against the side of the bin made for an ultra-tight fit. After a while, the metal bin warped a bit, bulging out around the bottom. The paint chipped/peeled away in short order, leaving lots of opportunity for rust. Difficult to clean when empty, could never get rid of the rotting garbage smell.
 
Well, I've just placed my trash outside...

Tomorrow is collecting day in my neighbourhood. Actually, it is illegal to place your garbage on the street before 6 am, but the trash man comes round early here and I don't like to get up early on a Saturday just to place my bags outside so I usually do it before I retire.

As you can see many neighbours have the same idea :-)

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Outside Nashville

I went to visit my cousins when they moved from Los Angeles to Murfreesboro TN, It is beautiful there, but we were all shocked that there is NO recycling with the trash pick up at all. It was very political as to who was going to get the contract, so nothing had been done and this was 2008. I was there during the presidential election campaign, and dare I say the McCain signs were 10 to 1 to Obama.
 
"Hydraulic Pollution Packer Compactor(Now under the Fox name)for only $50"

I swear!If News Corp buys one more company under their //FOX conglomerate, they'll own everything having to do with trash!
 
No-the company of Fox compactors has nothing to do with the Fox News network.the Fox name is after the person who currently wons the compactor company-his last name is "Fox".they even have a fox logo.-like the animal.
 
Trash truck compaction mechanisms fascinate me as well-I am awed by their shear unmerciful POWER-I mean they can even destroy themselves if the wrong items are put in their hoppers or charge boxes.I have heard of instances of items impailing the roofs of rear loaders from the power of the tailgate compactor unit.And items being pushed thru the bottoms of their hoppers.You can get an idea of the power of these from the "Videos" on the website "Classic Refuse Trucks"they show videos of various objects being crushed in many kinds of trash trucks.Including some white goods-the one of the Dennis Pheonix trash truck crushing a FL Hotpoint washer was something--poor washer!They crushed it many times--only thing left was a bent motor!Like disposers-trash trucks are kinda interesting-but its easier and cheaper to collect disposers.Did find a compactor at a yard sale once-didn't buy it since I couldn't fit it in the car I had at that time.Still on the lookout.May be fun to have like the disposers.To aviod odors in the compactors-do not throw food in them-throw that into the disposer.Rinse out containers before putting them into the compactor.On another YouTube video they show someone trying to crush a home type compactor with a D4 type cat tractor-the compactor was actually strong enough to support the tractors weight-about 4 tons!

http://www.classicrefusetrucks.com/video.html
 
I love my compactor. It's a Kenmore that I bought on sale in 2003 for $349.99. I have never had a problem with smells as all food goes in the disposer and I rinse out cans, food packages, etc. I live alone and a bag lasts me about 2 weeks.
 
Beer bottles

When I lived in my townhouse in Glendale Az. I bought the 18 inch KA compactor. It was a drag cuz a weeks worth of beer bottles weighs like 80 lbs. My 2 trash compactors smell like beer. YUMMY!!!!!......Bill in Az....
 
Here in LA we have three bins supplied the the city: a black one for any kind of waste, blue one for recycling paper, glass, cans, etc. and a green one for lawn and garden clippings. Additional bins can be supplied but cost extra, so a compactor would make sense for people with large families who make a lot of trash.
 
Tolivac---Just Kidding. I didn't think that they were really the same company, but both deal in a lot of trash, good and bad. Family Guy comes to mind. I love its irreverence!
 
We've had a residential, curb-side pick up of recyclables for many years here. It's recently gotten more friendly, now we can recycle magazines, all paper, etc. We have a (green) bin that goes out on the regular garbage day. The city stopped recycling glass of any kind a few years ago, there was no market for it. We have our bin out every week. Sorting restrictions are pretty lenient and the bins are dumped into one truck, curb-side sorting is gone. I hear tales of giant machines with robotic arms that sort and separate the recycled items automatically. I recently made a much more concerted effort to recycle 100% of our cardboard and have been astounded at the volume we used to throw away without a second thought. It only takes a small amount of effort to make a difference.

I have a KitchenAid compactor that I found new at a thrift store for $30. It's a perfect match to the 18 series dishwasher and all I have ever used it for is aluminum cans. I'm with Peter, with a weekly pick-up, I don't need to have a filthy, smelly compactor - nor do I have the time or energy to continually maintain the cleanliness of an appliance that generally must be disassembled to keep clean.
 
News networks-I find it difficult to find ANY good news source in the US-all of them are TRASH!!Use BBC instead-very professional.The US news media could be considered by some to be the WORST in the world-why?they are not for truth in the news-but sensationalism and ratings.Now-back to compactors.I guess home type compactors are not very popular in my area.I use the big Marathon one at the "dump" -transfer-recycling station I take my trash to.One dumpster for cans,bottles,magazines.Another for newspapers-anoither for cardboard-and the Marathon compactor for general trash.Patrons like to see their trash mashed into the container.LOVE the "POP" trash bags make!!also at a workplace in Wash DC I used to work at-they had a GIANT Marathon compactor-served two buildings.Loved to "feed" it!!you could watch the meter on it-had a picture of a goats face-and "normal" compaction-"Heavy"Mid scale-then"Haul" full scale.Could only get it to say "normal".Makes chairs into "milking stools".had a 15HP hydraulic unit.Enjoyed pushing the "Push To Crush" button on that beast.also that place had a really large and old paper bailer.Never saw it work-had a cable hoist mechanism in it.No Hydraulics.would have been neat to see how it worked-Figure that Marathon compactor replaced it.The old unit was built into the building-the building is a Gov't one built in 1939.Was kinda a neat place.
 
We had a trash compactor in this house when we moved in. Worked ok for awhile then had to replace the worm gear that ran up the shaft of the scissor movement. Then we started recycling in our city. Got tired of compactor and replaced it with the butcher block from my mothers kitchen. Perfect fit under the counter. Started with 2 bins one for paper and cardboard and one for glass and metal. Now you can throw any into one bin or both. This spring we are supposed to replace those with a normal size dumpster like the one for household trash. All recycling in one and regular trash in the other. This will be great cause usually we can fill both bins quite fast. After that it goes into the regular trash bin.
Jon
 
Americans don't recycle because we are rich. Only rich people throw away things of value. But, the way things are going, that might change. Personally, I love wasteful Americans, I am a proud dumpster diver/trash pirate. I have made scores worths hundreds of dollars off trash. Matt
 
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