TurboZone...Does it live up to the marketing hype?

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I looked at the 3-rack Maytag, too, and quickly realized it was absolutely not going to allow for the amazing loading flexibility of the 2-rack model. So I went with a TOL 2-rack. The 3-rack also didn't score as well in cleaning with CR.

Smart Wash Cycle: I have never used mine. I think they also opt for using more water and lengthen cycle times. In fact, I've taken to using the China cycle most of the time (about 60 minutes) and the 20-minute Insta Wash cycle for light-to-moderately soiled loads. There is no dry time on Insta Wash (unless you choose Heated Dry, and even then, it's very brief), so I pop the door open and let the dishes 'flash dry'.
 
Christopher my suggestion would be to go with either the Whirlpool or the Maytag. I have the GE Profile (8280) and believe me it is the worst dishwasher I have ever owned. Have you considered the Kenmore with the turbo-clean, sounds and looks like it does a good job.
 
this is very perplexing to me.
We have a GE Triton XL with their multi arm wash system. It's wonderful. When I look at our 2003 XL at home and the Profiles of today (2007) the wash systems are identical.
How can they be "horrible?"

Nothing's different.
Unless do you think they screwed with the cycle sequences?
 
I wish I knew John, I had GE out here just last week, he checked everything out and his only suggestion was to turn up the water heater which I did. I always used the added heat setting as well before. So far cleaning has been a bit better but still nothing like I see from the pictures of the Turbo Zone. The guy did say that he thinks these machines would do a better job if they used a couple more gallons of water.
 
more water?

well, while that may be true, i seriously think that might not be an issue....unless you're not getting full water pressure due to pump cavitation?

the filtering system in GE's new tall tub machines is virtually fool proof and do so well that they make the hard food disposer in there useless.
NOTHING can get sucked into the pump that is larger than those tiny holes in the sump filter. And whatever goes through there is partially routed to the super fine mesh filter under the wash arm. The tubs fill with a about 1.2 gallons of water which, in our machine, is perfectly fine.
An answer from the "GE Answer Center" told me that water is run through the fine mesh filter at a rate of about 1 gallon per minute, meaning in just over a minute, theoretically all the water is passed through the mesh filter.

Now... the only thing i can think of is a very poor cycle sequence programming. Other than that...this wash system is phenomenal.....is it being loaded properly? (I know, dumb question on this forum)
 
Oh yes John it is being loaded correctly. Like I said, results have been a bit better since I turned up the water but still not what I would call fantastic. Anyone that knows me will tell you that if anything I pre-rinse way to much so I don't know what the problem is. There have also been several times that all of the detergent hasn't even been washed from the cup. At first I thought I had placed to large of an iten in front of it but even after making sure that isn't happening there have been a few times where it is not all out of the cup. Have tried fresh detergent too! This doesn't happen all of the time which is the strange thing.
 
Terry - I have a GE 9200 tall tub, bought in 2004, and it performs flawlessly every time. It handles Bob-loads with no problem. I do clean the filter and the machine out, and I have found a couple of times that the filter had gotten plugged up (it made a funky noise while washing) from some corn husk fibers that had gotten in there (the filter port is very narrow). Once I cleaned it out and ran it through empty, it was right back to cleaning as usual. Something has got to be wrong for you to get such poor results. I assume you have disassembled, cleaned the filter, etc.? You might try running it through without the filter in place to make sure nothing is trapped below (the machine will run fine without the filter in place), and, also make sure the machine is draining completely. That would certainly cause poor results. Hope that's helpful.
 
filter woes

the fine mesh filter ports are quite narrow, i agree.
So I took a drill bit and enlarged the filter entrance hole by about, .100 thousandths diameter. That should help a little, and allow more water to flush through. On the drain side of the filter (that little rubber tube) there's a coarse screen in there, that MIGHT get clogged too, preventing the fine mesh filter to drain.

If increasing your water heater helped...i wonder if the dishwasher itself is not heating its own water...maybe there's an issue with that fantastic, gigantic Calrod.

Also, you could try switching to Cascade ActionPacs instead of regular powder.
the detergent cups in these machines are kind of in a stupid place because dishes CAN block them, and the way they open actually seems to prevent water circulation from reaching them.
I made my parents switch to Cascade pacs, and that solved all detergent issues, because the pac just falls out of the cup, even if it opens part way.

ALSO...there could be an issue with pump pressure. Is it possible that your molded wash arms maybe have a split seam? The water may be spraying out the seams...just a thought.

Best of luck!
 
Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions. The GE guy did check to make sure that the machine was heating the water, I have removed the filter and it was clean as well. I will check out the wash arm for any splits. I will also give the Cascade packets a try. Once again thanks for your help. Terry
 

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