Turquoise Maytag Set / $200 / San Diego
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WOW!
turquoisedude
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Of course.... San Diego.... Dammit!!!
mrcoppertone
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Holy smokes! I've been looking for a blue pair to put in my laundry room that has blue linoleum flooring. I also live in Los Angeles. Just seems like a big risk not knowing if they work and the door not closing.
good catch on the dryer cabinet!
The dryer handle can be replaced (link) but the set will likely need some moderate to intensive work to use as a daily driver.
I had a (700) set for about seven years, one of my all-time faves.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Ma...273607?hash=item2580000007:g:ZVwAAOxyWalR2MOw
The dryer handle can be replaced (link) but the set will likely need some moderate to intensive work to use as a daily driver.
I had a (700) set for about seven years, one of my all-time faves.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Ma...273607?hash=item2580000007:g:ZVwAAOxyWalR2MOw
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I wouldn't let that bother me in the least. If I was close and wanted them, I'd make the deal.
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I wouldn't let that bother me in the least. If I was close and wanted them, I'd make the deal.
>> I wouldn't let that bother me in the least. If I was close and wanted them, I'd make the deal.
Same!
Same!
mrcoppertone
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Are these generally easy to find people to repair and work on? I don't really have any experience yet with vintage washer/dryer's. The rest of my appliances are vintage and those were quite challenging to repair when needed.
I also have to find out if these are compatible with my electric/gas setup. I can take pictures and post in here when I get back home later tonight.
If they seem compatible, I'll try to give it a shot! In the past year, I picked up a vintage refrigerator, dishwasher, and cooktop (that had to be restored.) Gets pretty tiring, and costly, to replace everything so quickly!
I also have to find out if these are compatible with my electric/gas setup. I can take pictures and post in here when I get back home later tonight.
If they seem compatible, I'll try to give it a shot! In the past year, I picked up a vintage refrigerator, dishwasher, and cooktop (that had to be restored.) Gets pretty tiring, and costly, to replace everything so quickly!
>> Are these generally easy to find people to repair and work on?
I would say that finding someone to work on them is (or would be) far easier than finding a pair of the machines.
I would say that finding someone to work on them is (or would be) far easier than finding a pair of the machines.
mrcoppertone
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Looks like the dryer is electric. Is that desirable with these? Also, do these use different outlets than ordinary house outlets?
Apparently, these were untouched for decades. The light still comes on in the washer. She sent me pics of the inside and they look almost new.
I asked her to send me closer pictures of the wash and dry cycles. Just curious which options this one has but I am likely buying these at this point!
Apparently, these were untouched for decades. The light still comes on in the washer. She sent me pics of the inside and they look almost new.
I asked her to send me closer pictures of the wash and dry cycles. Just curious which options this one has but I am likely buying these at this point!
I hate to be *THAT* guy, but if you're unfamiliar with machines this old and aren't willing to learn and work on them yourself, then pass. Finding someone who would even begin to know how to work on that complex timer and electronic control unit of the 642C is going to be slim to none. The whole dryer needs to be torn down cleaned and lubricated before being put into regular service. The front seal is probably deteriorated and turned to dust by now, which is NLA. Timers for either unit are long gone and unavailable. The 3 coil water valve in the washer is almost impossible to come by now and most likely needs to be replaced, at minimal, rebuilt. Expect everything that holds water and oil to leak in the near future on that washer. The washer may still even have a pot metal pump in it, which definitely needs to be replaced before a drop of water enters the tub. The hoses connected to the pump are petrified by now.
I've done several complete in depth restorations on Maytags older than these but I spent many years gathering service manuals, spent endless hours reading them, a decade of collecting parts from ebay and buying old stock parts from Maytag service centers, and cut my teeth on some lower end units and junky high end units of this era before restoring nicer ones.
I've done several complete in depth restorations on Maytags older than these but I spent many years gathering service manuals, spent endless hours reading them, a decade of collecting parts from ebay and buying old stock parts from Maytag service centers, and cut my teeth on some lower end units and junky high end units of this era before restoring nicer ones.
mrcoppertone
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Hi Dan,
I've actually worked on just about all of my vintage appliances. I serviced and installed all of them myself. However, I can't do things like re-chrome, replace certain parts I don't have access to etc. In fact, I pretty much fix or repair everything I own including cars, guitars, electronics, light fixtures, household items... So, I certainly have no problems getting my hands dirty and tinkering.
But like anyone, there's always a first time for something. I haven't worked on a washer/dryer yet so I'm coming here for advice. I'm restoring my 1958 home and this washer and dryer are really perfect for it. I am not just doing this to have some cool looking appliances. I truly believe in preservation and celebrating some of the great manufacturing of our past.
For anyone who is willing to help me do that, I would greatly appreciate it.
I've actually worked on just about all of my vintage appliances. I serviced and installed all of them myself. However, I can't do things like re-chrome, replace certain parts I don't have access to etc. In fact, I pretty much fix or repair everything I own including cars, guitars, electronics, light fixtures, household items... So, I certainly have no problems getting my hands dirty and tinkering.
But like anyone, there's always a first time for something. I haven't worked on a washer/dryer yet so I'm coming here for advice. I'm restoring my 1958 home and this washer and dryer are really perfect for it. I am not just doing this to have some cool looking appliances. I truly believe in preservation and celebrating some of the great manufacturing of our past.
For anyone who is willing to help me do that, I would greatly appreciate it.
Dryer DOES NOT plug into a normal household outlet, it need a 230V dedicated line.
mrcoppertone
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Thanks for the heads up. That should be easy enough. My electric panel is in the same room and there's a crawl space underneath.
stricklybojack
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Sold
Sold
Did you get it?
I'm curious to see them, if you need some help, I'm more than happy to help you. I'm a washing machine designer (but I never touched a vintage Maytag or even saw one running right in front of me)
I'm in DTLA, Gage and Normandie.
Obs. I have a broken leg... so I can't force too much until I recover and get rid of the boot I'm wearing.
I'm curious to see them, if you need some help, I'm more than happy to help you. I'm a washing machine designer (but I never touched a vintage Maytag or even saw one running right in front of me)
I'm in DTLA, Gage and Normandie.
Obs. I have a broken leg... so I can't force too much until I recover and get rid of the boot I'm wearing.
stricklybojack
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I did not get these, nor do I know who did.
I did not get these, nor do I know who did.
mrcoppertone
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I bought them! I just think they were too special to pass up at that price. Especially, with how close they are.
I found out the handle was actually inside and they were able to fix it. That's also not damage to the paint in front. It's just duct tape residue. These seem to have been cared for really well. The seller also found the users manuals, which was a very nice surprise! Like I might have mentioned, they haven't been used in decades.
Thank you thomasortega! I would love to take you up on that. They are being crated now and then should be in my possession relatively soon. It's going to be really tricky to install them. My laundry room is a pain in the @#$ to move appliances in and out of. It's down a big flight of stairs in a rather narrow room. I want to make sure these have a good chance of working before removing my other ones. I'll probably open them up and test them (without water) in my living room to see if it looks promising. At least good enough where I could replace a few easy parts if need be.
I'm certainly open to recommendations on how to approach this. I know I should service them as best as I can before operating them.
I found out the handle was actually inside and they were able to fix it. That's also not damage to the paint in front. It's just duct tape residue. These seem to have been cared for really well. The seller also found the users manuals, which was a very nice surprise! Like I might have mentioned, they haven't been used in decades.
Thank you thomasortega! I would love to take you up on that. They are being crated now and then should be in my possession relatively soon. It's going to be really tricky to install them. My laundry room is a pain in the @#$ to move appliances in and out of. It's down a big flight of stairs in a rather narrow room. I want to make sure these have a good chance of working before removing my other ones. I'll probably open them up and test them (without water) in my living room to see if it looks promising. At least good enough where I could replace a few easy parts if need be.
I'm certainly open to recommendations on how to approach this. I know I should service them as best as I can before operating them.
mrcoppertone
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Also, I hope you have a speedy recovery!
repairguy
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Very nice!!! Congratulations! I’m sure they will need quite a bit more than wiping down before being used on a regular basis but that is a pretty spectacular find in my opinion.
stricklybojack
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Glad to so they will be appreciated.
‘Goof Off’ makes quick work of tape residue.
A sweet deal to be sure. Had i the room they would be in my garage!
Glad to so they will be appreciated.
‘Goof Off’ makes quick work of tape residue.
A sweet deal to be sure. Had i the room they would be in my garage!
A Real Vintage Appliance Fan
Testing his washer and dryer in the living room....
Congratulations on your new appliances! We do expect pictures as they progress.
lawrence
Testing his washer and dryer in the living room....
Congratulations on your new appliances! We do expect pictures as they progress.
lawrence
"I'll probably open them up and test them (without water) in my living room to see if it looks promising."
Do NOT do that....
Rule number 1 with washers that old: Fill it with hot water (use buckets, tap hot, but as hot as possible) and let it sit for at least 1 hour before you think about plugging it. (and the living room isn't the best place to do that)
Do NOT do that....
Rule number 1 with washers that old: Fill it with hot water (use buckets, tap hot, but as hot as possible) and let it sit for at least 1 hour before you think about plugging it. (and the living room isn't the best place to do that)
Heed My Warnings Above
Again, I don't mean to come across as a Debbie Downer but I don't recommend using these as daily drivers even with a hardcore meticulous Qsd-Dan style restoration process on both units. I've been in a bunch of these machines and know what to expect from them thanks to that good ol' hard knox learning technique called experience. They will stab you in the back and fail as the worst possible time. I also don't recommend using these machines as your first prelude into Maytags. At minimum, find a post '65 washer to learn and make mistakes on before touching the A700. That washer is a different animal from '66+ and a simple slip up will turn it into a 200# paperweight.
Last year of the 642C dryer is 1961 and first year of the A700 is 1961. The chances of both units being 1961 are strong. Do the math, that's 58 years old.
Here's some points to ponder before plugging in either machine, as well as my crystal ball future predictions from experience:
Washer:
Belts are probably original and toast. The motor carriage is probably gummed up, if not locked up, and motor carriage wheels disintegrated (or soon will be). This area needs to be addressed immediately.
Damper pads are parched and badly need lubrication by now. Spinning out just one single load of laundry without lubricating them first has the strong potential of ripping the pads off of the base and gouging the damper. That style damper was discontinued in 1965 so good luck finding a non damaged damper today. Polylube is NOT used on these older pads, it's Maytag transmission oil. Use 80/90 gear lube if you don't have Maytag transmission oil on hand and expect your laundry room to reek of stinky @ss for at least a month. I replace all of these old style damper pads with the newer style pads (you'll need to trim one of the 3 pads for proper spacing) and polylube even if the old style look perfect. The newer style causes less friction, allowing tighter spring tensions without inducing vibrations.
Lower o-ring in the transmission is probably toast, or soon will be, and will dump most of its oil on the floor and all over the bottom half of the base. Run it under these conditions and it'll lock up the lower half of the transmission. Most of the transmissions I've been in at this age are less than half full of oil. Whatever oil left has nearly turned into grease which will cause sluggish operation. The shaft in the upper housing relies on oil for lubrication during the spin cycle. Lack of oil or thick oil won't flow into the oil gallery of the upper trans housing during the spin cycle, causing the upper shaft to bind and destroy the upper sleeve bearings, then lock up.
Expect every hose and seal to systemically fail due to age (stem and boot seal, tub bearing seal, cover to tub housing band seal, pump seal, water valve, water valve to injector hose, tub to pump hose, drain hose, air dome hose). Find a post 1979 sealed pump and install it. Those older pumps like to leak from the top seal, especially if the screws holding it are rusted (most of them are). Short term leaks here will rust out that corner of the base. Watch out for the bleach injection hoses, they won't leak right away but soon will. The original style bleach containers will crack by just looking at them wrong, if it isn't cracked already. Check all clamps, they rust out and lose tension, then cause leaks. A blown tub to pump hose, drain hose, or air dome hose will immediately turn your laundry room into the Niagara Falls. Been there, done that.
Dryer:
Belts are trash and probably have flat spots from sitting in one spot on the pulleys for decades.
All sleeve bearings (including the ones in the motor) are bone dry. Running the dryer can cause immediate damage to these bearings, ESPECIALLY THE BLOWER WHEEL BEARINGS!
The front seal is probably DOA. They like to fall off into the heating element which can cause a fire.
The capacitors on the electronic control board are probably dried and dead. Strong chance the automatic moisture sensing options will not work and you'll be relying on the timed dry portion of the dial, if the timer itself isn't dead.
Keep in mind this is only a handful of the many problems that can occur. Considered yourself warned.
Again, I don't mean to come across as a Debbie Downer but I don't recommend using these as daily drivers even with a hardcore meticulous Qsd-Dan style restoration process on both units. I've been in a bunch of these machines and know what to expect from them thanks to that good ol' hard knox learning technique called experience. They will stab you in the back and fail as the worst possible time. I also don't recommend using these machines as your first prelude into Maytags. At minimum, find a post '65 washer to learn and make mistakes on before touching the A700. That washer is a different animal from '66+ and a simple slip up will turn it into a 200# paperweight.
Last year of the 642C dryer is 1961 and first year of the A700 is 1961. The chances of both units being 1961 are strong. Do the math, that's 58 years old.
Here's some points to ponder before plugging in either machine, as well as my crystal ball future predictions from experience:
Washer:
Belts are probably original and toast. The motor carriage is probably gummed up, if not locked up, and motor carriage wheels disintegrated (or soon will be). This area needs to be addressed immediately.
Damper pads are parched and badly need lubrication by now. Spinning out just one single load of laundry without lubricating them first has the strong potential of ripping the pads off of the base and gouging the damper. That style damper was discontinued in 1965 so good luck finding a non damaged damper today. Polylube is NOT used on these older pads, it's Maytag transmission oil. Use 80/90 gear lube if you don't have Maytag transmission oil on hand and expect your laundry room to reek of stinky @ss for at least a month. I replace all of these old style damper pads with the newer style pads (you'll need to trim one of the 3 pads for proper spacing) and polylube even if the old style look perfect. The newer style causes less friction, allowing tighter spring tensions without inducing vibrations.
Lower o-ring in the transmission is probably toast, or soon will be, and will dump most of its oil on the floor and all over the bottom half of the base. Run it under these conditions and it'll lock up the lower half of the transmission. Most of the transmissions I've been in at this age are less than half full of oil. Whatever oil left has nearly turned into grease which will cause sluggish operation. The shaft in the upper housing relies on oil for lubrication during the spin cycle. Lack of oil or thick oil won't flow into the oil gallery of the upper trans housing during the spin cycle, causing the upper shaft to bind and destroy the upper sleeve bearings, then lock up.
Expect every hose and seal to systemically fail due to age (stem and boot seal, tub bearing seal, cover to tub housing band seal, pump seal, water valve, water valve to injector hose, tub to pump hose, drain hose, air dome hose). Find a post 1979 sealed pump and install it. Those older pumps like to leak from the top seal, especially if the screws holding it are rusted (most of them are). Short term leaks here will rust out that corner of the base. Watch out for the bleach injection hoses, they won't leak right away but soon will. The original style bleach containers will crack by just looking at them wrong, if it isn't cracked already. Check all clamps, they rust out and lose tension, then cause leaks. A blown tub to pump hose, drain hose, or air dome hose will immediately turn your laundry room into the Niagara Falls. Been there, done that.
Dryer:
Belts are trash and probably have flat spots from sitting in one spot on the pulleys for decades.
All sleeve bearings (including the ones in the motor) are bone dry. Running the dryer can cause immediate damage to these bearings, ESPECIALLY THE BLOWER WHEEL BEARINGS!
The front seal is probably DOA. They like to fall off into the heating element which can cause a fire.
The capacitors on the electronic control board are probably dried and dead. Strong chance the automatic moisture sensing options will not work and you'll be relying on the timed dry portion of the dial, if the timer itself isn't dead.
Keep in mind this is only a handful of the many problems that can occur. Considered yourself warned.
A good alternative is having "some" daily drivers,
Right at this moment, I have "only" 24 washers, 4 gas dryers, 4 electric dryers and 4 spin dryers in y laundry room.
It reached a point is said STOP! and I have 6 washers and 1 dryer listed on Facebook.
The only new machines that I'll accept in my laundry room is a Whirlpool thin twin (or just the portable washer), a Speed Queen pair that I'm in love with and I hope I can sell the other washers and make money to get that pair) and EVENTUALLY a Maytag stacked combo (that one that has the control on the right).
And of course, always open for something really vintage and rare like a GM Frigidaire or an Easy twin Tub (because my husband loves that model) or a slant front Westinghouse or a .... well... I think I need a bigger laundry room.
But anyway, Always have a modern machine because you should NEVER jeopardize a vintage washer's life by washing those "impossible" loads like duvets or heavy loads of jeans. If you kill a modern machine, not a big deal, they are somewhat easily replaceable without hurting your feelings.
Right at this moment, I have "only" 24 washers, 4 gas dryers, 4 electric dryers and 4 spin dryers in y laundry room.
It reached a point is said STOP! and I have 6 washers and 1 dryer listed on Facebook.
The only new machines that I'll accept in my laundry room is a Whirlpool thin twin (or just the portable washer), a Speed Queen pair that I'm in love with and I hope I can sell the other washers and make money to get that pair) and EVENTUALLY a Maytag stacked combo (that one that has the control on the right).
And of course, always open for something really vintage and rare like a GM Frigidaire or an Easy twin Tub (because my husband loves that model) or a slant front Westinghouse or a .... well... I think I need a bigger laundry room.
But anyway, Always have a modern machine because you should NEVER jeopardize a vintage washer's life by washing those "impossible" loads like duvets or heavy loads of jeans. If you kill a modern machine, not a big deal, they are somewhat easily replaceable without hurting your feelings.
Good advice, Dan.
>> thomasortega wrote
>> A good alternative is having "some" daily drivers,
That's perhaps good general advice, but misses Dan's point.
Dan is saying that anyone with machines of this age would be wise to do a complete teardown/rebuild on them ***BEFORE*** using them, to take care of the common age-related failure points BEFORE they fail and do irreparable damage to the machine (or your home) in the process. Using the machines infrequently does not eliminate this risk or the need for preventative maintenance!
It's very good advice, and comes from experience. Make his post a checklist, and I'm actually surprised how many of them I've hit personally, and with machines a decade or more newer than these here. Some of these issues are faaaaar easier to remedy before they fail, and for such a nice pair of machines like this, it would be well worth your efforts to do so!
>> thomasortega wrote
>> But anyway, Always have a modern machine because you should NEVER jeopardize a vintage
>> washer's life by washing those "impossible" loads like duvets or heavy loads of jeans.
100% disagree with this!
>> A good alternative is having "some" daily drivers,
That's perhaps good general advice, but misses Dan's point.
Dan is saying that anyone with machines of this age would be wise to do a complete teardown/rebuild on them ***BEFORE*** using them, to take care of the common age-related failure points BEFORE they fail and do irreparable damage to the machine (or your home) in the process. Using the machines infrequently does not eliminate this risk or the need for preventative maintenance!
It's very good advice, and comes from experience. Make his post a checklist, and I'm actually surprised how many of them I've hit personally, and with machines a decade or more newer than these here. Some of these issues are faaaaar easier to remedy before they fail, and for such a nice pair of machines like this, it would be well worth your efforts to do so!
>> thomasortega wrote
>> But anyway, Always have a modern machine because you should NEVER jeopardize a vintage
>> washer's life by washing those "impossible" loads like duvets or heavy loads of jeans.
100% disagree with this!
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