Turquoise Vintage Kitchen Aid Mixer - $20 (Kalamazoo area)
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You can't go wrong on that thing for $20.
It's a model 4C. 4 quart bowl. Cannot be used to knead bread dough or other heavy doughs and the manual states so. This model was intended to compete with Sunbeams, HB and the like at the time.
I think it's Mint Green Color
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Seems like that was an option on these machines. They work well but as Bob stated not intended for heavy doughs or heavy cookie batters.</span>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Mine has a clear glass bowl which was another option. I like the clear bowl as I think it's fun to watch what's going on in the bottom of the bowl.</span>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Seems like that was an option on these machines. They work well but as Bob stated not intended for heavy doughs or heavy cookie batters.</span>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Mine has a clear glass bowl which was another option. I like the clear bowl as I think it's fun to watch what's going on in the bottom of the bowl.</span>
I have the silver one Kelly sent me. Got a glass bowl as well as the metal one shown in the photo and corresponding multi-purpose beater/whip. One for each bowl.
I think The Master himself may have been the one who stated that it's kind of a trade-off with these models vs. the K4 or K45. I believe he said the "all purpose" type beater used with the 3C and 4C was better at mixing batters than the paddle type found on the larger models and also served as a whisk, but bread dough required the hook found on the bigger machines.
I used to use the K4 and the K45 side by side in pound cake production. The exact same recipe produced totally different batters in the two mixers. They both baked into beautiful cakes with perfect crumb, but the batter from the K4 was not nearly as thick as the batter from the 45.
That is a beautiful mixer in that color.
I remember Julia Child used to use the K4 with the glass bowl on the black and white French Chef episodes, maybe because it was easier to see into the bowl to see what was happening.
That is a beautiful mixer in that color.
I remember Julia Child used to use the K4 with the glass bowl on the black and white French Chef episodes, maybe because it was easier to see into the bowl to see what was happening.
ovrphil
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K4, 4C and TV cooking shows
Tomturbomatic - I watched many B&W Julia Child shows when they were first aired. In the Detroit area, I thought there was a cooking show (woman)in the 1950's who I thought was Julia Child. But according to anything I've read, she didn't appear on tv til 1963. I thought for sure that Julia appeared in the 1950's!
In disbelief, that Julia Child's first tv show aired in 1963 I searched and found instead, the earliest cooking show appeared in the Philadelphia area, featuring Florence Hanford. Anyone old enough to remember her?
Interesting thread and for anyone who is reading this and would like to read more discussions about the K4, 4C, some of you have said a lot more here, coming up on three years ago, already!
I'd like to have this blue-green colored mixer, still for sale at $20 in Kalamazoo.
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Tomturbomatic - I watched many B&W Julia Child shows when they were first aired. In the Detroit area, I thought there was a cooking show (woman)in the 1950's who I thought was Julia Child. But according to anything I've read, she didn't appear on tv til 1963. I thought for sure that Julia appeared in the 1950's!
In disbelief, that Julia Child's first tv show aired in 1963 I searched and found instead, the earliest cooking show appeared in the Philadelphia area, featuring Florence Hanford. Anyone old enough to remember her?
Interesting thread and for anyone who is reading this and would like to read more discussions about the K4, 4C, some of you have said a lot more here, coming up on three years ago, already!
I'd like to have this blue-green colored mixer, still for sale at $20 in Kalamazoo.
KitchenAid K-45 Mixer -- How Old Is It?
I found this mixer at Savers today. Complete with paddle, whisk and dough hook -- how did that happen? It runs smoothly and super quietly. It struck me as worth $29.99 so I snapped it up, and just in time, as another guy was ready to swoop in as I was examining it. It's obviously a Hobart...
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tennblondie78
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Damn. Wish I were closer. That would be mine!!
When we were traveling in the summers, someplace had a cooking show called The Blue Flame Kitchen sponsored by the local gas company. It came on after Romper Room, I guess about the time housewives settled down for a second or third cup. It had dieticians in white uniforms, white lace up bubbe shoes (with a wedge heel for those not familiar with Yiddish) and caps like nurses used to wear in their hair. They clumped around from table to stove, always mentioning things like the Burner-With-a-Brain or the Quick Chill Shelf in the RCA Whirlpool gas refrigerator where they always placed the custards or puddings.
On Today in Georgia, Ruth Kent used to demonstrate recipes. One morning when an ice storm prevented her from getting to work and us from going to school, she called in to have Ray Moore do the recipe as she directed him over the phone. He added the ingredients to the bowl, but never opened the packages like the pound box of brown sugar.
On Today in Georgia, Ruth Kent used to demonstrate recipes. One morning when an ice storm prevented her from getting to work and us from going to school, she called in to have Ray Moore do the recipe as she directed him over the phone. He added the ingredients to the bowl, but never opened the packages like the pound box of brown sugar.
The DVD boxed set of Monochrome Julia Child cooking shows has her using a Sunbeam Mixer.In one recipe she was making chocolate Mouuse--She says--"We puree the chocolate and other ingredients in the Machine" as she was running the mixer her spatula got to close to the beater blades!!When it happened the spatula was chopped in half-the handle flew out of her hand and the other peice went flying across the cooking set.Can't remember what she said when it happned.Was kinda funny!But glad she didn't get hurt!I bought the set of DVDs from the bargain bin at Olies.
Hey Phil,
Just FYI, the K45 in the thread you linked to has been living in my kitchen ever since I cleaned it up. I gave it a later bowl with rolled rim and a handle, and traded the coated attachments from my mom's old almond Hobart K45SS to use with it.
It's quiet and so much easier to use than a bowl-lift type. With its timeless styling, nobody knows it could easily be around 40 years old.
Just to confirm -- The K4 and the 4C are two very different machines. People tend to think the K4 is the same as a 4C (sometimes calling it a K4C), but the K4 has far more in common with the K45. Here's a picture of the K4 I got from the late great "Mixfinder," Kelly.
Just FYI, the K45 in the thread you linked to has been living in my kitchen ever since I cleaned it up. I gave it a later bowl with rolled rim and a handle, and traded the coated attachments from my mom's old almond Hobart K45SS to use with it.
It's quiet and so much easier to use than a bowl-lift type. With its timeless styling, nobody knows it could easily be around 40 years old.
Just to confirm -- The K4 and the 4C are two very different machines. People tend to think the K4 is the same as a 4C (sometimes calling it a K4C), but the K4 has far more in common with the K45. Here's a picture of the K4 I got from the late great "Mixfinder," Kelly.
ovrphil
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Tom - you remember a TON of stuff…as others here, but you seem to have one of the longest memories for details. Of course, in the Detroit area, we didn't have any cooking show like that, until Julia came along. But I'm still trying to convince myself that Julia's show started in 1963. "Burner with a Brain" / 'Quick Chill Shelf" - maybe a branding that may come back soon? LOL!
Rex- I'd like to find that set, but not pay full price. Those would be fun to view.
Ralph - that's cool, you really improved it then, right? Better bowl and SS attachments. I think the old KA mixers were quieter than some of the new ones. I'd like to know how much quieter yours is over our KA Professional 600w model. It doesn't seem loud to me, but maybe it's louder after all, being such a bigger motor. I tend to use the hand-mixers, and haven't used the 600 myself(wife's toy).
All this talk about models of the Kitchenaid, got me looking at KA and i found a link where KA mixer history is outlined in a blog. Summary, and I only quote what she posted, haven't verified all this:
1919 to 1927 - Herbert Johnson introduces the Model H
1927 - Model G ( 50% lighter than H model)
1931 - Model F
1932-36 - not found, but said to exist - Model A Caudette/Kaidette with rotating bowl
1932 -33 Model M
1936 - Hobart returns to the KA name
1937 Egmont Arens(creator of Vanity Fair) designed and introduced the K model (3-speeds and lines of the G)
1939- Model K-3 (a, b and c followed…K3A,etc)
1940 - K3A Light Duty/No spiral, dough hook, or flat beater)
1940 - K4 introduced- a K model with a 4Qt bowl and 10-speeds, essentially
1941 - K5A introduced, replacing the KA Model G
1940-44- The Model 4 (it's suggested that the Model K4A and K4 are one and the same, as no distinction was found in her research of KA mixer history)
1944-1962 - Model K4B
1950 - Model K3C (a cosmetically improved K3B, essentially) and the Model K4C introduced and produced until 1979.
1962 - K45 (4.5Qt.) , replacing the K4B
1978 - K45SS, replacing the K5A
and the rest is on her site…I didn't mention the Hobart N-50 and another model or two.
K3C and K4C were light duty ,but the K3C had a somewhat beehive bowl… and here's a few photos…Models M, K4B, KA Model F, KA Model 3C and a model K5A (1941 introduced)
Trivia/fun fact: " The KitchenAid mixer company got it’s name when the founder of KitchenAid Herbert Johnson gave the wives of the executives at his company a prototype model and one of the exclaimed, “I don’t care what you call it, but I know it’s the best kitchen aid I’ve ever had! "
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Rex- I'd like to find that set, but not pay full price. Those would be fun to view.
Ralph - that's cool, you really improved it then, right? Better bowl and SS attachments. I think the old KA mixers were quieter than some of the new ones. I'd like to know how much quieter yours is over our KA Professional 600w model. It doesn't seem loud to me, but maybe it's louder after all, being such a bigger motor. I tend to use the hand-mixers, and haven't used the 600 myself(wife's toy).
All this talk about models of the Kitchenaid, got me looking at KA and i found a link where KA mixer history is outlined in a blog. Summary, and I only quote what she posted, haven't verified all this:
1919 to 1927 - Herbert Johnson introduces the Model H
1927 - Model G ( 50% lighter than H model)
1931 - Model F
1932-36 - not found, but said to exist - Model A Caudette/Kaidette with rotating bowl
1932 -33 Model M
1936 - Hobart returns to the KA name
1937 Egmont Arens(creator of Vanity Fair) designed and introduced the K model (3-speeds and lines of the G)
1939- Model K-3 (a, b and c followed…K3A,etc)
1940 - K3A Light Duty/No spiral, dough hook, or flat beater)
1940 - K4 introduced- a K model with a 4Qt bowl and 10-speeds, essentially
1941 - K5A introduced, replacing the KA Model G
1940-44- The Model 4 (it's suggested that the Model K4A and K4 are one and the same, as no distinction was found in her research of KA mixer history)
1944-1962 - Model K4B
1950 - Model K3C (a cosmetically improved K3B, essentially) and the Model K4C introduced and produced until 1979.
1962 - K45 (4.5Qt.) , replacing the K4B
1978 - K45SS, replacing the K5A
and the rest is on her site…I didn't mention the Hobart N-50 and another model or two.
K3C and K4C were light duty ,but the K3C had a somewhat beehive bowl… and here's a few photos…Models M, K4B, KA Model F, KA Model 3C and a model K5A (1941 introduced)
Trivia/fun fact: " The KitchenAid mixer company got it’s name when the founder of KitchenAid Herbert Johnson gave the wives of the executives at his company a prototype model and one of the exclaimed, “I don’t care what you call it, but I know it’s the best kitchen aid I’ve ever had! "
Chapter Ten -- KA model K-4
CHAPTER TEN KITCHENAID MODEL K-4 Model K-4 introduced. Basically, it is the model K enhanced wit...
Phil, I don't have any means to measure the decibel levels of the K45 and the Professional HD bowl-lift model it bumped down to the basement. I can only provide anecdotal information based on my own experience.
The Professional HD with its infamous "Swedish motor" is a whining, shrieking, screeching nightmare to put up with. If you're wanting to communicate with someone in the same room, plan on yelling. I think your 600 isn't nearly as bad.
The Hobart K45 is infinitely more refined with its quiet performance. Same for the K4. With either machine, you can hold a civilized conversation standing right next to it while it's deftly mixing away.
The Professional HD with its infamous "Swedish motor" is a whining, shrieking, screeching nightmare to put up with. If you're wanting to communicate with someone in the same room, plan on yelling. I think your 600 isn't nearly as bad.
The Hobart K45 is infinitely more refined with its quiet performance. Same for the K4. With either machine, you can hold a civilized conversation standing right next to it while it's deftly mixing away.
Phil
that sheet on the Drink Master and Drink Mixer was fascinating! Now I know the difference between the two, I never knew why HB made two almost identical machines.
Thanks for posting.
that sheet on the Drink Master and Drink Mixer was fascinating! Now I know the difference between the two, I never knew why HB made two almost identical machines.
Thanks for posting.
Phil: I bought the Julia Child boxed set of DVD's from the discount store Olies-Don't know if there is one in your area-the set cost only like 5 bucks or something.Olies stores sell discountinued goods-and when the stock runs out--thats it.So if there is anything you see at the Olies store you want-buy it when you see it.It may not be there again.Or you can look for those JC videos at the bargain DVD bins at Wal Mart or Best Buy.You are bound to run into them some time or another-just keep an eye out.Often I find these things in stores when I am looking for something else!It is a neat set-and filmed with an older Videocon camera-the "comet tailing" is very evident when the camera moves across scenes with bright objects.The programs are in BW or monochrome-orig broadcast on PBS.
norgeway
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RE Cooking shows
We had the Betty Feezor Show on WBTV Charlotte from 1953 until 1977, And also The Nancy Welch Show from Spartanburg SC from the mid 60s which ran about 20 years.
We had the Betty Feezor Show on WBTV Charlotte from 1953 until 1977, And also The Nancy Welch Show from Spartanburg SC from the mid 60s which ran about 20 years.
ovrphil
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Ralph - I'm smiling…wasn't expecting any db level report, but based on what you said, and I've never seen a 600 HD, that motor sounds like it belongs in a Bosch reciprocating saw. LOL! The Pro 600 is pretty quiet, as long as you're not tumbling………rocks(parents: watch for unusual scratches in SS bowls).
Jon - you're welcome; what's interesting and fun is that many of the collected photos and articles I kept before computers arrived, can be scanned and shared. I still get jazzed over this now given convenience.
Did you see those prices on the D. Mixmaster & Drink Mixer? They look inexpensive, but to today's dollars it would be four-fold(?).
Rex- you just made me aware…that Ollie's is here in the Atlanta and other areas - thank you! I'm going to check them out soon. I hope I find those J. Child videos, thanks for suggesting ideas, to locate them (hopefully) one day.
Hans - you were lucky, she seemed like a really good watch all those years. I found her on YouTube and isn't it sad she died at age 53 from a brain tumor? She stammers in this one of only two shows that were saved as she did the show live, reportedly a sign of the tumor that took her life. Thanks for sharing. I wish the Detroit TV scene had a show like hers back when I was watching B&W tv.
Jon - you're welcome; what's interesting and fun is that many of the collected photos and articles I kept before computers arrived, can be scanned and shared. I still get jazzed over this now given convenience.
Did you see those prices on the D. Mixmaster & Drink Mixer? They look inexpensive, but to today's dollars it would be four-fold(?).
Rex- you just made me aware…that Ollie's is here in the Atlanta and other areas - thank you! I'm going to check them out soon. I hope I find those J. Child videos, thanks for suggesting ideas, to locate them (hopefully) one day.
Hans - you were lucky, she seemed like a really good watch all those years. I found her on YouTube and isn't it sad she died at age 53 from a brain tumor? She stammers in this one of only two shows that were saved as she did the show live, reportedly a sign of the tumor that took her life. Thanks for sharing. I wish the Detroit TV scene had a show like hers back when I was watching B&W tv.
danemodsandy
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Today in Georgia:
Ruth Kent was a favorite of mine on TV when I was young. Later, I met her and we became friends; she was a very warm and fine person. She was the complete antithesis of some of the WSB personalities who came later; she drove a Chevy Nova four-door, blue with a white top. No airs, no pretense. I never saw her when she wasn't camera-ready. Not so much gussied-up - more like nailed-down, nothing out of place.
At one point, Today in Georgia's kitchen set included a "magic of television" oven. The oven had had its back removed, so that Ms. Kent could put in a freshly-mixed cake or casserole, and then - moments later - remove the fully-baked version. I remember one time that the prop man was a little late with his cue, and his hands were visible as he finished rapidly shoving in the final product. Ms. Kent playfully slapped his hand and giggled!
Before there was Julia presenting French food on TV, there was Dione Lucas. Ms. Lucas was not nearly so entertaining as Julia, but she did teach one very important concept - that of mise-en-place. She exhorted viewers to set up a tray with all ingredients chopped, measured, weighed, etc., so that actual cooking could go rapidly and smoothly.
Ruth Kent was a favorite of mine on TV when I was young. Later, I met her and we became friends; she was a very warm and fine person. She was the complete antithesis of some of the WSB personalities who came later; she drove a Chevy Nova four-door, blue with a white top. No airs, no pretense. I never saw her when she wasn't camera-ready. Not so much gussied-up - more like nailed-down, nothing out of place.
At one point, Today in Georgia's kitchen set included a "magic of television" oven. The oven had had its back removed, so that Ms. Kent could put in a freshly-mixed cake or casserole, and then - moments later - remove the fully-baked version. I remember one time that the prop man was a little late with his cue, and his hands were visible as he finished rapidly shoving in the final product. Ms. Kent playfully slapped his hand and giggled!
Before there was Julia presenting French food on TV, there was Dione Lucas. Ms. Lucas was not nearly so entertaining as Julia, but she did teach one very important concept - that of mise-en-place. She exhorted viewers to set up a tray with all ingredients chopped, measured, weighed, etc., so that actual cooking could go rapidly and smoothly.
