Twinnie Troubles aka another addition

[vacbear58]

Yes, the doors of Casa Kerr have been graced with another twinnie, this time a Hoovermatic 3334. I was really surprised that it did not go for a higer price given that it is reasonly good cosmetic condition. And it was close to where I live so .......

 

[vacbear58]

Wash deck

Still in good condition and complete with instruction books

 

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Inside

This is perhaps where the trouble starts.

I was too late home with it to do a water test but the impellor seems to turn freely enough as does the spinner. Not sure about teh spinner pump though .... And the valve to choose empty tub or spin seems to be siezed up

 

[vacbear58]

Heater

Can I use some kettle de-scaler on the heater or will that be too corrosive on the rubber pipes inside? The heater chamber cover was removed although it too was included.

 

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Signs that it has not been used for a LONG time

Spinner mat, rigid in this position

 

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Hoses too

I was pleased when I opened it up to find the drain hose was included, but both hoses are ROCK hard. Advice please on how to make them flexible again - Mike, if you read this can you kindly remind me of the name of that stuff you were telling me about a couple of weeks ago please.

For the princley sum of £11.50 this was (hopefully) something of a bargain but it would be nice to have some splash drama from it, although my hoover Twosome also manages that quite well too

Al

 

[qualin]

Try soaking the heater elements in undiluted vinegar. That will descale them without harming them.

I'm not sure what you could do about the rubber parts except either replace them or try soaking them in hot water to see if they loosen up. Perhaps using rubber rejuvinator (sp?) on them might help, but they're on borrowed time if you do that.

Good luck and congrats on your find!

 

[keymatic]

Morning Al,

Nice find there, did see it on ebay, and being soo close (Epsom) did wonder if you would go for it.

The OCV control is probably clogged up..but these do pop up on ebay every now and again.

Hopefully you will have it gleaming and up and running soon..congrats !!

Keith

 

[vacbear58]

Soo close ...

Keith

You did mention in another thread how was the washer collection going ....

Surprisingly enough this machine was less than a mile from the Philips I got a while back - it did not cost much either. Just this last week I got a matching dryer for that - a lot further away but it was a good excuse for a trip to Bletchley Park as well. Then there was the EE Reversomat style dryer at Christmas ....

Here is the dryer (ebay picture) to match the Philips Variotronic - this has particular signifigance to me as this Philips combo was the very first washer dryer set I ever owned, way back in 1980. The dryer is actually in better condition than it looks

Al

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoovermatic 3334

Congrats Al on another great bargain find, looks in good nic for its age, theres not much on these that cant be fixed...stick it outside and put a couple of pints of hot water in each tub and check for leaks, if no leaks fill up with hot water (or quarter tub in washer & set to boil) then if the valve works pump it into the spinner and then spin it back into the tub - heating it up again and repeat.

For the heater yes as Qualin says stick a load of vinegar in and boil, all the crud should flake off, be wary of scraping to much, usually the scale can cover rust / holes etc and hold it together!!

 

[chestermikeuk]

The OCV....

This can be taken apart, but first squirt a load of three in one oil around and over the lever, let it soak and try and move it about, usually they free up, but if not its easy to take apart, 4 screws and two hands....and if krudited use the vinegar trick again, stick it in a pan and boil....the Oovah Induction Hob is optional!!

Worst case we have a few spares or recons...usually just the rubber caps over the seating valves that perish in these....

 

[chestermikeuk]

OCV Valve

And after the vinegar boil..

 

[chestermikeuk]

And

the below deck valve seating chamber..scraped and boiled...

 

[mikeklondon]

Cleaning the heater

HI White vinegar is all I ever use on all my machines 1L in the washer / DW and coffee machine and they come out like new

 

[vacbear58]

OCV

Cheers Mike, thanks for the tips. I am not sure that someone has not been at that before as there were two (apparently spare) grommets for the wash deck lever included as well. Still no harm in giving it the 3 in 1 a try.

What about the hoses? Please

Al

 

[lancethecook]

fab twin tub

hi Al,
I had two of these twin tubs, unfortunately one of them was beyond repair but i did take it to bits and kept just about all of it except the tubs and casing so if you need any parts let me know and you are welcome to them.
The other one i have is in great shape and is certainly one of my favourite machines, i hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it once repaired.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoses

Al, I would try soaking the pipes & mat in very hot water and see if they supple up, will ask Mathew the name of the spray, it was fab stuff, suppled up the dried out spin gasket on the Servis MK1 a treat!! Its the stuff on the right ...LOl

 

[vacbear58]

Mike and Lance

Thanks very much for the advice and the offers of parts - VERY much appreciated

Al

 

[chestermikeuk]

Just heard back...

From the appliance doctor...its Halford Silicone Spray for rubber trims seals etc £3.99

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_219033_langId_-1_categoryId_165705

 

[vacbear58]

Halfords

Thanks a million Mike, I have a Halfords just round the corner from my home. Funny how a car accessory shop is the source of this and miracle plastic renovator Autosol.

Al

 

[electron1100]

Lovlee

What a lovely machine to get Al, easy to work on as everyone else has said, yeah the hoses from the pump to the valve can be a real pain, if they are to stiff then the pump wont operate properly as it is mounred on a shaft and relies on a spring to hold the whole assembly with the drive tyre on drive pulley.

Best take the hoses off the pump end first.
with a bit of patience all the problems can be solved on these machines.
If you venture so far as to remove the control panel be careful not to kink the capillary tube that goes down to the tub from the temperature dial.

I have no parts left from mine just some nice memories

Good luck
Gary

 

[keymatic3203]

well done

Al
yes looks in great condition visually. let me know if you need any parts, i have several of the gaskets that fit the ocv valve and some of the pump components which are the same as were fitted to the single tubs, but anyway see what you find when you set to work.

Nice to see the instruction card as well.

Mathew

 

[keymatic]

Hi Al, another thing to have a look at with 3334 the spin reslient mount.

Have u got any pics of the EE reversomatic ?
Cheers
Keith

 

[chestermikeuk]

"Have u got any pics of the EE reversomatic ? "

Loads of em, BUT there will be no pictures shown of the English Electric washer & Dryer now residing and working in Wales until you show us yours...
as youve promised to show em us yonks ago....LOl

Oh, where waiting???

 

[vacbear58]

More on Hoovermatic

As I posted elsewhere today seems to have been the first dry day in ages so i dragged the 3334 outside to give it a try. Fist things first - take the back off. Inside is in remarkably good condition, makes me wonder if anyone has already had a go at it

 

[vacbear58]

Doing what HMs do best

When I first put hot water in both the spin can and the wash tub there was only the slightest leak from the wash tub pump - that actually seemed to stop after a while. So I put more water in the spin can and filled the tub up.

Switched on and everything seemed to run beautifully - smooth and quite quiet

 

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And now the snags

The spinner pump is not working at all, not sure if it is seized or needs a new belt, at least it is a bit easier to get to than in the spinarinse.

I tried oiling the pump selector valve from the top but its still jammed. It was remarkably easy to remove which again seems to imply that it has been off before recently. The piston seems jammed but I will give it the vinegar rinse and see if that helps.

By this stage there has been hot water (slightly hotter than my hand could stand) for about 40 mins and having run it for about 8 minutes, the hose from the wash tub pump seemed quite warm so I gently tried to manoevre it down so i could gravity drain the tub and DISASTER - the hose broke in two places, the lower of which was right above the pump and it was water water everywhere - just as well it was outside. Thankfully I had unplugged it before starting. I suppose I had not left it soaking long enough.

So, now I need a new hose as well as all the rest The spin can hose seemed to be OK, but I will probably replace that too.

 

[vacbear58]

English Electric

Further up the thread Keith asked for some pictures of the EE reversomat drier

 

[vacbear58]

Can you spot whats missing?

When taking it out of the car the first thing I managed to do was snap of the door catch release - drat, and double drat! I still have it and hopefully a spot of superglue will do the trick.

Still I was able to get the door open - money shot

 

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Controls

Ho & Lo Heat