alanlondon
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fascinating Mike, so likelihood is then it filled the outer tub, heated the water and then pumped this into the tub for the wash action to start. I guess a bit like the Parnell I assume?
UK market front & top loaders 195? to 1990 - theories, queries & rarities
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Frigidaire UK
I wouldnt think so Alan, the Parnall has a massive outer tub to hold an inner tub full of water ?
Question for the MultiMatic gang, Does the Multimatic have a solid tub and outer tub liner ? or inner tub with holes ?
Judging by You Tube they all look solid, which does beg the question Alan if heated in the outer tub how big would it have to be to then fill the inner tub and how is it pumped ?
I wouldnt think so Alan, the Parnall has a massive outer tub to hold an inner tub full of water ?
Question for the MultiMatic gang, Does the Multimatic have a solid tub and outer tub liner ? or inner tub with holes ?
Judging by You Tube they all look solid, which does beg the question Alan if heated in the outer tub how big would it have to be to then fill the inner tub and how is it pumped ?
the Jetamatic
As far as i can remember [It is some 45 years ago]there was no recirculating water .Once full if the water was not hot enough the heater came on .once at the right temp the jet action starts .Once the washing is finished the machine spins then fills with cold water the jet action starts the machine fill right up tp the overflow then the pump starts then another spin .more fresh water [cant remember how many rinses ]then the final spin .The machine did use loads of water and as i have said before if overloaded the wash was poor. The pump was large and quite powerful resulting in a larger than average drain hose .I only ever saw these machines in well to do homes doctors .vicarages .dentists ect where there was usually a wash house for the machine to live in .I suspect it was far too big to have in the average UK kitchen .The jetamatic was larger than the Hotpoint and in my opinion not as efficient. Would love to get my hands on one now just for old times sake .I still have a scar on my little finger where i i got my hand caught up in the jetamatics inner workings
As far as i can remember [It is some 45 years ago]there was no recirculating water .Once full if the water was not hot enough the heater came on .once at the right temp the jet action starts .Once the washing is finished the machine spins then fills with cold water the jet action starts the machine fill right up tp the overflow then the pump starts then another spin .more fresh water [cant remember how many rinses ]then the final spin .The machine did use loads of water and as i have said before if overloaded the wash was poor. The pump was large and quite powerful resulting in a larger than average drain hose .I only ever saw these machines in well to do homes doctors .vicarages .dentists ect where there was usually a wash house for the machine to live in .I suspect it was far too big to have in the average UK kitchen .The jetamatic was larger than the Hotpoint and in my opinion not as efficient. Would love to get my hands on one now just for old times sake .I still have a scar on my little finger where i i got my hand caught up in the jetamatics inner workings
Jetamatic...
I think it had a heating element in the outer tub like the Hotpoint, it mentions nothing like the Parnall set up in the brochure or installation instructions.
Cheers
Keith
I think it had a heating element in the outer tub like the Hotpoint, it mentions nothing like the Parnall set up in the brochure or installation instructions.
Cheers
Keith
Jetamatic
Thanks for the clarification Anthoney, yes would be great to find one for old times sake.
Question the Hotpoint has holes in the inner drum so when filled the water and heat energy gets into the washtub from the heater in the outer tub base. Do we know if the Jetamatic had a tub like the frigidaire spinner with holes etc, because if its solid it must dual fill both tubs inner and outer then heat and the energy transferred (quite innificiently would have thought ) to water at top of inner tub ?
Mind a hot fill would help immensely with heating etc. Heres the Which 1969 report for comparison with the leading brands Hoover and English Electric.
Thanks for the clarification Anthoney, yes would be great to find one for old times sake.
Question the Hotpoint has holes in the inner drum so when filled the water and heat energy gets into the washtub from the heater in the outer tub base. Do we know if the Jetamatic had a tub like the frigidaire spinner with holes etc, because if its solid it must dual fill both tubs inner and outer then heat and the energy transferred (quite innificiently would have thought ) to water at top of inner tub ?
Mind a hot fill would help immensely with heating etc. Heres the Which 1969 report for comparison with the leading brands Hoover and English Electric.
the jetamatic
i am sure the inner tub had holes in it [an awful lot of water for that heater to heat up especially if its starting from cold].I have been racking my brains trying to remember how the rollermatic drive worked [am getting nowhere ] All i can remember is that the front of the machine came off making it easy to see what was going on while the machine was in action. What i can remember is that the machine had a clutch meck for use when spinning it used large cork like rings about the size of a CD as clutch plates .the motor would start up for a spin and the tub would gradually some up to speed rather like the Hotpoint TT .The jetaction was caused by a steel arm riding over nylon rollers but just how it worked i cant remember .Its only 2 or 3 years ago when i threw out folders full of diagrams /price lists exploded and parts lists for all the machines .If only i had kept them .I have just made contact with a guy who was my manager way back then [He is 93]I will talk to him .maybe he can shed some light
i am sure the inner tub had holes in it [an awful lot of water for that heater to heat up especially if its starting from cold].I have been racking my brains trying to remember how the rollermatic drive worked [am getting nowhere ] All i can remember is that the front of the machine came off making it easy to see what was going on while the machine was in action. What i can remember is that the machine had a clutch meck for use when spinning it used large cork like rings about the size of a CD as clutch plates .the motor would start up for a spin and the tub would gradually some up to speed rather like the Hotpoint TT .The jetaction was caused by a steel arm riding over nylon rollers but just how it worked i cant remember .Its only 2 or 3 years ago when i threw out folders full of diagrams /price lists exploded and parts lists for all the machines .If only i had kept them .I have just made contact with a guy who was my manager way back then [He is 93]I will talk to him .maybe he can shed some light
Frigidaire Rollermatic mechanism
Was it like this Alan ?
Was it like this Alan ?
Frigidaire rollermatic / Jetamatic
yes
Wow .i haven't seen that for a very long time .[you can see how easy it would be to damage ones fingers]Yes that's exactly what i remember .All done with rollers and you can just see the top of the large pump on the motor shaft .Also the arm going up and down .that pump can really move water. The jetamatic has its own distinct sound as it does its thing .While the actual motor is very quiet the mechanism makes a sort of chuka chuka sound as the agitator [if you can call it that]goes up and down .great to see all that stuff again .
Wow .i haven't seen that for a very long time .[you can see how easy it would be to damage ones fingers]Yes that's exactly what i remember .All done with rollers and you can just see the top of the large pump on the motor shaft .Also the arm going up and down .that pump can really move water. The jetamatic has its own distinct sound as it does its thing .While the actual motor is very quiet the mechanism makes a sort of chuka chuka sound as the agitator [if you can call it that]goes up and down .great to see all that stuff again .
Frigidaire UK
A very unique washer for here, have been talking with others and we cant get our heads around it if it was a solid tub other than dual fill to use the heater , concensus is it must have had holes like the Frigidaire spinners ..
I hope the finger wasnt too badly injured Anthony ?
A very unique washer for here, have been talking with others and we cant get our heads around it if it was a solid tub other than dual fill to use the heater , concensus is it must have had holes like the Frigidaire spinners ..
I hope the finger wasnt too badly injured Anthony ?
Frigidaire UK
Hi Keith
Could you post pics of the Frigiaire Jetamatic user manual or merchandise if you have it please ? would be great to see programme guides for using the heater etc or even if it shows an inner tub pic.
Cheers, Mike
Hi Keith
Could you post pics of the Frigiaire Jetamatic user manual or merchandise if you have it please ? would be great to see programme guides for using the heater etc or even if it shows an inner tub pic.
Cheers, Mike
practically
all the jetamatics I saw were in well off large homes with good central heating systems supplying plenty of hot water. at this time the hot water in our house was supplied by an immersion heater with the only other heating in the coming from the gas fire in the living room although we did have one of those electric geyser things [made by Creda]for small amounts of hot water in the kitchen. I once went to a large house in Middlesbrough where the occupants had moved over from the states bringing their Frigidaire washer and dryer with them .They were both installed in the large wash house of a rambling vicarage .the machines had big transformers allowing them to run on 240 volts .Both machines were in a canary yellow colour with chrome control panels mounted on fake wood consoles. I never touched the dryer m but the washer was basically a jetamatic in a fancy cabinet. Getting back to the Jetamatic i am sure there is a ring of holes under the bottom vane of the agitator and slits around the rim of the tub
all the jetamatics I saw were in well off large homes with good central heating systems supplying plenty of hot water. at this time the hot water in our house was supplied by an immersion heater with the only other heating in the coming from the gas fire in the living room although we did have one of those electric geyser things [made by Creda]for small amounts of hot water in the kitchen. I once went to a large house in Middlesbrough where the occupants had moved over from the states bringing their Frigidaire washer and dryer with them .They were both installed in the large wash house of a rambling vicarage .the machines had big transformers allowing them to run on 240 volts .Both machines were in a canary yellow colour with chrome control panels mounted on fake wood consoles. I never touched the dryer m but the washer was basically a jetamatic in a fancy cabinet. Getting back to the Jetamatic i am sure there is a ring of holes under the bottom vane of the agitator and slits around the rim of the tub
Jetamatic....
Evening all, finally found the time to take a quick pick of the Frigidaire Jetamatic pamphlet/leaflet.
Cheers
Keith
Evening all, finally found the time to take a quick pick of the Frigidaire Jetamatic pamphlet/leaflet.
Cheers
Keith
Frigidaire JetaMatic
Fabulous , good to read the info, Thanks Keith, fascinating machine. You can see why Anthony had a lucky escape with the moving mechanism.
Now get those other sides posted ha ha , need to see exactly what the programmer says ?
Fabulous , good to read the info, Thanks Keith, fascinating machine. You can see why Anthony had a lucky escape with the moving mechanism.
Now get those other sides posted ha ha , need to see exactly what the programmer says ?
michael
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Brilliant!
Thanks for this..it has brought back many memories of past machines...
Back in 1977, I got a magazine from WH Smiths called which washing machine?..it had a drawn picture of a front loader with water three quarters up the glass.All I remember it was a mine of information, listing all makes and models and photos...a real gem!
How I wish I still had it...does anyone else remember it?
Thanks for this..it has brought back many memories of past machines...
Back in 1977, I got a magazine from WH Smiths called which washing machine?..it had a drawn picture of a front loader with water three quarters up the glass.All I remember it was a mine of information, listing all makes and models and photos...a real gem!
How I wish I still had it...does anyone else remember it?
1977 Washing Machine Report
Hello Michael
Was it a Which consumer report at all do you think ?
1977 was a great era for reviewing what to buy, pity they dont make it as simple today !!
Heres a link to the 1977 Which Consumer report, Enjoy the read !!
www.automaticwasher.org
Hello Michael
Was it a Which consumer report at all do you think ?
1977 was a great era for reviewing what to buy, pity they dont make it as simple today !!
Heres a link to the 1977 Which Consumer report, Enjoy the read !!
Which? Consumer Report 1977
having discussed washing machines from 1977 in a number of threads here is the Which? consumer Report from that year - interesting reading, grab a coffee & cinnamon bun and enjoy!!
www.automaticwasher.org
fredriksam
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Zanussi P33 P5
Found these videos of another version of the Zanussi P33 also known as P5. The machine in the videos are called Tatramat Mini 246 but its the very same drum in it as it is with Zanussi p5 + P33.
Found these videos of another version of the Zanussi P33 also known as P5. The machine in the videos are called Tatramat Mini 246 but its the very same drum in it as it is with Zanussi p5 + P33.
fredriksam
Well-known member
Philips 303
Found some videos of a Philips 303 from the 70´s. It was one of the more cheapest models and had no spin-drain and spin speed was about 500 rpm.
Found some videos of a Philips 303 from the 70´s. It was one of the more cheapest models and had no spin-drain and spin speed was about 500 rpm.
