Unfortunate news about the ‘63 Whirlpool

[combo52]

Repairing a controls corporation, washer timer

Hi Sean, I can find you a timer that has the same contacts and you can just drill out the rivet and use the contacts from another timer. I use tiny nuts and bolts instead of rivets when I do this, we always had a lot of trouble with the rivets popping on Mallory timers and we often fix them this way.

If you want me to find a timer for you that you can part out and send it to you let me know.

John

 

[maytag85]

Hi John, will contacts from a Mallory timer work? Found a Maytag timer from the early 80’s that looks to have similar contacts in it.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Yes Mallory parts are all interchangeable, I've done this on this several timers. I cannot tell from your picture (reply 27) what is broken, it looks good to me.

 

[maytag85]

Hi Robert, the contract that broke is for agitate. It stinks when things like this happen, but it’s to be expected when you have something that’s over 60 years old. Don’t really want to do this, but if I can’t fix the timer, going to see if I can transplant consoles from a Mark 18 set from the late 70’s a friend is going to be parting out, that’s if I can’t successfully repair the timer.

 

[combo52]

Fixing an older timer with a broken cam follower

Sean, you’re making this difficult your picture 27 shows a controls corporation timer the parts will not fit from a Mallory timer which you show and reply number 31

I offered to send you a control corporation timer that you can rob parts from, Robert is right. It’s easy to fix these timers. The parts are interchangeable, but you have to use the same brand timer.

John

 

[maytag85]

I’ll look into trying to get the donar timer from you, John. Apologies for the confusion, thought you can swap contacts from a Mallory timer in, turns out the contact as are completely different.

 

[maytag85]

After thinking about it, I’ll look into trying to get the parts timer from you, John. Will pay for the postage.

 

[ragnboneman]

Thinking way out of the box here but years ago I had a lot of trouble getting contacts and repair parts for an obsolete Canadian brand called CLL.

AUX contacts for controls are hard to get and I made them by peeling apart common things like Open frame relays and soldering the replacement contact in the place of the old one I would drill out.

Crude but effective way to make a part.

https://www.rfparts.com/relays/relays-openframe/ku14d35.html

Sometimes a contact file like this will re surface the and polish them up enough to solve your trouble too.

https://canada.newark.com/gc-electronics/9338/standard-width-burnishing-tool/dp/93B0612

 

[ragnboneman]

Arduino automation systems are getting easier to use.
not simple but much easier than trying to wire a PC to a washing machine as I have seen done..
https://www.automationdirect.com/ad...ollers/productivity_open_(arduino-compatible)

 

[stricklybojack]

I remember picking these machines up...

...and you getting them from me. Best vintage laundry appliance find i ever made, no doubt.
I hope you get the thing running as that tab seems fixable. You have already done the hard part.
A competent machinist could knock it out fairly easily i would think...but they're not around so much anymore

 

[maytag85]

The good news is I got a parts timer from John, bad news is I won’t be able to get to it until it cools down or the weather permits for me to start doing some more work to it. The machine has been stripped down to bare cabinet, doing some more cleaning and painting while it’s out of service, not difficult to do, just a little time consuming. Hopefully the timer works when I install the new contact in this upcoming fall.

 

[maytag85]

So here’s an update. The good news is the timer mostly does what it’s intended to do, bad news is you have to put downward pressure on the timer knob for it to engage on the suds return, or the spin cycle. Why it does that I don’t know, but put everything back together correctly and even re-glued the cam assembly so everything is in alignment, still not wanting to work.

Even been checking eBay persistently over the past year, still nothing. If I can’t find a replacement timer, going to have to do some sort of retrofit such as mounting a later style of console on, or find a mid to late 60’s Whirlpool with a similar style of console and transfer the parts from the ‘box’ portion of where the timer resides in the console.

 

[combo52]

1963 whirlpool imperial mark 12 timer rebuild

Yay Sean, you’ve almost got it. You just have to adjust the cam followers slightly for the spin contact. It’s just a matter of bending it a tiny bit more pressure so that it makes the contact close. This is a pretty standard practice when you’re rebuilding or repairing a timer.

John

 

[maytag85]

That’s what I’ll probably will have to do. Getting close, just needs some extra tweaking to get it right.

Really do hope it’s able to work fully when I put it through its paces this weekend.