Unimatic,Part 3 New Timer

[toploader55]

I FOUND THE PROBLEM...

With that whole Solenoid/Water Temperature Switch Issue Thing.

I was just out in the Garage getting ready to test the circuit. Upon looking at the Brown wire under very bright light... There was the problem. The Green Wire that is next to Brown was not firmly all the way into it's terminal. It was touching the Brown to the Spin Solenoid. Hence the Spin Solenoid Engaging on Warm and Disengaging on Hot.

Which also solved the problem with the Machine Spinning during the Rinse Cycle instead of Pulsating.

(Thank God for Magnifier Glasses).

Here's the New Timer :

 

[toploader55]

Pic 2

Let's hope it works !!!

 

[toploader55]

Pic 3

Can't belive it's here

 

[toploader55]

Last Shot

Now begins the Dilemma...

 

[toploader55]

Do I ...

Go through the trouble to put the timer motor in the Old Timer only to find out there could be a potential problem with the escapements or just make him a Double Rinser ?????

 

[swestoyz]

Personally I'd test the new timer motor first to make sure that actually works. It it works and advances the new timer just fine I'd swap out the escapement/timer motor and put those on the orginal timer to keep the overflow rinse in tact.

Ben

 

[toploader55]

Thanks Ben

And how does one go about that ???

 

[turquoisedude]

Wowee!

Looks beautiful, Eddie!! Hope they didn't soak you too badly for shipping and 'handling charges'!! Ben makes a good point - test the timer motor before you start ripping anything out of the old machine. I have done so in the past just by hooking up an AC power cord to the two terminals right on the motor (make a note of where it goes, then disconnect that orange wire first) and plug it in! You may find it useful to make yourself a test cord out of an safe and reliable cord and plug set with a pair of bullet terminals on the other end. You will know pretty soon if the timer works or not - the motor will hum and you will hear the 'clunk' as contacts are made and broken. What excitement!! I'll bet a Secret Santa here couldn't have gotten you a better surprise than this!!

 

[mickeyd]

Glad to hear

you may be overflowing this very day.

 

[Unimatic1140]

And how does one go about that ???

If you don't have an electrical test cord ready I would just switch the timer motor Eddie and see what happens.

Look how easy it is to switch, I've color coded your picture to make it very simple...

 

[toploader55]

IT'S WORKING, IT'S WORKING

Just changed out the Timer Motor. And he's "scratching" away

YAY !!!!!

 

[toploader55]

Thank you soooo much Robert

That was a breeze changing that motor out.

Now... on to the Fill Solenoids.

 

[swestoyz]

Great Job Eddie!

 

[maytagbear]

No further comment:

"blue nuts"

!!!!!!!!!

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[mickeyd]

Lots of blue balls hanging from my Christmas tree

Robert, I think it's awesome the way you helped Eddie, color-coding the picture. Such skill is miraculous to someone like me. I feel as grateful as Eddie does.

Generosity and good will are contagious. I've written down the number of this thread come the day I need a new timer--nope not, though ;->

So Eddie, the best of luck on the selenoids and the valve. A little slow, so, is it an overflow then, or a double rinser?

 

[toploader55]

Hey Everyone.

Yes Mike,
Robert is awesome.
Where would you possibly look for help for a 1951 Unimatic ? I have learned so much from this Web Site. I rebuilt my KD2-P with the help of stevet and the input of so many members, I couldn't believe it.
I want to include everyone in this Thank-you. Especially Coldspot66 who is more or less "Up the Street" from me and listens to my tails of woe, has gotten parts, and loaned me stuff to get the job done. Not to forget his knowledge too.
And Ben, with wiring diagrams that he pulls out of thin air, and turquoise dude who has been support as well. I could keep writing but it really is about everyone here.

Thanks Everyone.

And Mike, It is an Overflow Rinser !!! LOL

 

[combo52]

Overflow rinse

The overflow rinse is more fun to watch but the double rinse does a much better job of rinsing I converted my WO65-2 years ago and couldn't believe how much better it worked. Just try using a cup of bleach in aload to prove it to yourself.

 

[mickeyd]

And Mike, It is an Overflow Rinser !!! LOL ...P R A I S E T

You won't be sorry Eddie,

And PLEASE give a big hello and a huge bear hug to John Coldspot for me. How cool that he is your neighbor. When he saw the flick of the beheaded rotoswirl in the Visimatic, he sent me a brand new scrubber cap, free of charge. Same with Ben. Amazing generous men, the pride of AWorg.

 

[alr2903]

Toploader glad you are on your way, and no sparks Our webmaster is just the stuff, i figured Robert and others would get you automatically "thumpin" in no time. best of luck with your unimatic. arthur

 

[toploader55]

UPDATE !!!

I just found a New Control Dial and Brand New Fill Solenoids for the Machine.

Looks Like he'll be a Almost a New Unimatic.

What Joy !!!!!

 

[thomasortega]

Eddie, I know a guy in Brazil that surely needs a fill valve and maybe will need a new timer (2 rinses)

 

[toploader55]

Just Skyped ...

ThomasOrteg
We had a great chat "Video" and I hope everything will work.

 

[thomasortega]

Eddie

Yesterday night was really nice, thanks for the great moments we had together (disassembling the machine's timer LOL)

Don't forget we have a "date" tonight. I'll do some laundry and also disassemble the Frigidaire.

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Unimatic experts, we'll need some help tonight so, if possible please be online on Skype. I'm going to offer an online wash in and also disassemble my Unimatic which is almost like Eddie's one.

My main questions at this moment are:

1) It "sounds" the bearings are damaged. The spin noise is a mix of big truck, jet engine and horror movie monster. Can the bearings be found easily at any hardware store or their specs were specific for the unimatics?
2) same question, but about the water seals.

3) Is this sequence correct? >remove filter>nut>pulsator>etc, etc, etc> up to the drum?

4) I have the service manuals (thank you guys) and I understood it perfectly but I still afraid to do some of the routines. Could someone that disassembled an Unimatic before please follow me (online) in real time just in case to prevent any irreversible damage?
I must consider the machine is not a teenager anymore! Some routines that look very easy on the manuals might be very hard to perform on that old lady, specially stuck nuts, bolts, etc.

 

[thomasortega]

By the way...

My boss is trying to fix the timer motor.

He's remaking the wiring. If it works, I'll have good news to many colleagues and friends here.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Did the spin bearing sounds like that when you first tried the machine Eddie? Yes its a standard bearing that you can get at any good bearing retailer (not a hardware store). But its a big job and you'll need a special tool to remove the bearing retainer ring.

 

[toploader55]

Hi Robert.

"Did the spin bearing sound like that when you started the machine Eddie ?"

Not at all. My machine is as quiet as a Church Mouse. Pulsates and Spins like a dream. Since I put the timer motor in, I have run the machine through 3 Full Cycles and it's running PERFECT. (So far.)

Thom unfortunately has the noisy bearing.

Isn't that great News if Tom's friend can refurbish the Ingraham Timer Motors ???

 

[thomasortega]

Thanks, Robert!

Actually we don't have bearing dealers here. All bearings one can imagine can be found on standard hardware stores or car parts stores.

My boss opened the motor and found the issue. It's copper wiring needs to be rewired. It's not a difficult thing, but it requires some time and lots of patience to rewire slowly, carefully and accurately.

 

[thomasortega]

Eddie and other guys

I'm sorry, I had some unexpected issues and I had to go out during the evening.

Let's do it tomorrow afternoon?

 

[toploader55]

New Parts Today

I just got a New Valve today and Dial. Except the Dial is for a Double Rinser.

 

[toploader55]

Tomorrow is...

Solenoid Day !!! Yay !!!