Unusual Maytag Agitation

[mrb627]

I thought this was a little odd. Is this a member?



Malcolm

 

[bajaespuma]

Other than the fact that the agitator isn't OE, what's so unusual about the stroke?

 

[mickeyd]

I could be wrongggguuueee,

but that white 'tator is the same one that's in my LTC Paul's latter day Tag which operates with the short fast stroke.
I thought only the green 'tators went long and slow. Is that what you're talkin' about, Malcolm?
The stroke and finning are different, but it is the same size as the green, and perhaps, they're interchangeable.

Or is this simply a re-make of the vintage green in a new color?

 

[geoff]

Tried this.

It's a large capacity agitator from an orbital machine used in a Pitman drive. Nothing special. The splines are identical in both machines. Any agitator will fit. I once tried this in my A207 with my mothers LAT Dependable Care agitator. Doesn't create much action..

Geoff

 

[mrb627]

Unusual

That the average person would have taken down their Maytag machine to the level that this one in the video has been. Then, substuting the newer agitator for the old, can't imagine why, can't see that the powerfin would ever fail.

Then, for the user to video the resulting agitation and post it on YT.

Just strange for a non-collector to exhibit the behaviour.

Malcolm

 

[mayfan69]

Can't see this issue here....

I personally don't see what's so unusual about this....isn't part of the fun of being a collector experimenting to see what works and what doesn't?

Haven't tried it myself, but now I know how it washes.

Leon

 

[mrb627]

Well...

Unusual - out of the ordinary; uncommon; extraordinary

 

[mayfan69]

WELL.......

Maybe someone was in the middle of restoring a machine and decided to test it before putting the top cover back on.

I've certainly done that to make sure there are no leaks from the centre seal.

Granted, i haven't put a different agitator in it at this stage, but hey....each to their own!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I could be wrong but he looks a collector or anyway a washer appassioned as in his/her account do have another video (4 in total all about the same machine) showing the machine operation with the "regular" agitator...
Personally I see and think the regular one to be more effective of course, the other one was meant to run faster, at higher speed and shorter strokes, subsantially a different washing action to be had with this different type of agitator, washing action would not do the same or as effective with this agitator that BTW and IMHO look is doing a much more decent job than many other modern agitator machines they sell now...just to say it right.
He will not be the first nor the last changing agitator and see how it works in another machine, I've to agree it does not take much to realize it would not have been as effective...but interesting to see anyway...
The other video:

 

[yogitunes]

I thought he did the 50Hz pulley setup, the agitation seemed fast compared to most Maytags....

but yeah, many of us have changed out numerous agitators in machines, I even figured out how to install a GE 3 vane in a Maytag.....a little far fetched, but can be done...

our ideas are endless....

 

[mayfan69]

A GE 3 Vane in a Maytag

A GE 3 vane in a Maytag.....now THAT is something i'd like to see Yogi!

I have a couple of vids with Simpson agitators in my Maytags and Wilkins'...interesting to watch the results.

Cheers
Leon

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I remember having watched again recently a short video of an easy agitator in an SQ of a member on here, it was interesting as well, I get to find it....
In this forum I've seen many agitator switch from other machines...
Anyway, I've to say sometimes agitators of others machines would work perfectly in others also... if original are not available they would be just an as valid subsitute... maybe not the case of the SQ I mentioned before, nor of ourse of this Maytag...

Nice to try them out anyway in different machines...
I got the video I was talking about:

 

[yogitunes]

it wasn't bad, but not compared to its original machine, you have to consider that Maytags are clutched belts, and a slower agitation.....I think the ramped would work better....but fun to try an experiment

 

[mayfan69]

That's the fun....

of being a collector and trying all this out. I tried out a high vane Simpson agitator in the Maytag and found it created a lot of splashing and while the turnover was ok, it wasn't really designed for the 210 degree sweep, as later Simpsons only had a 170 d sweep.

 

[beekeyknee]

I remember this. The individual was concerned about the knocking sound the machine made during agitation and we hypothesized that the set screw in the mounting stem was in one of the flutes on the trans. neck or the stop lug was out of adjustment. I don't remember the final conclusion. [this post was last edited: 6/8/2013-12:03]

 

[alr2903]

I think the Tag in Malcolm's video was the last big hurrah agitator for maytag. Just prior to the dual action patent becoming  a facsimile.  alr

 

[yogitunes]

turn the beat around......a video courtesy of our own westytoploader shows a powerfin installed in an orbital tranny setup....

 

[kenmoreguy89]

You see, the regular agitator in an orbital machine is very good!!!
I may remember it wrongly but I could see that in some coin operated maytag with orbital transmission the agitator was similar of an "old style" power fin one, I mean the bottom 4 fins not the things in the neck....
But this agitator works just perfectly in these also! The other one not in older (non-orbital) machines.

[this post was last edited: 6/9/2013-08:55]

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Yoigi I would love to see a video of your maytag working with the GE!!!!!!
Very interesting!!!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Here an example of the Coin-op Maytags:
OVERLOAD!

 

[yogitunes]

I don't have a regular Maytag anymore, the one I do have has this type of 50hz setup.....but the next time Darren is here, I will try to get a video of different agitators.....amazing the different effects and wash action...

video and info on this setup courtesy of Ben.....

 

[whirlcool]

If we had known we could have kept our mid-80's Maytags and just change the agitator to get better rollover we probably would still have the machines today. One of the worst problems we had with it was no matter how lightly you loaded the machine the rollover was absolutely minimal. So we replaced the machines with Whirlpool shredmores after 7 years.

 

[yogitunes]

there are exceptions as with anything.....

when Kenmore first came out with the DualAction for their beltdrives...the salesmen and guy in the service dept swore it would not fit my Whirlpool.....but I got one anyway and tried it myself.....it worked!

and the same for the LoadSensor of the Maytags......designed only to fit the newer model, so they claimed.....now granted it only works for the pitman/helical drive machines......the LoadSensor from a Norge design will not fit a true Maytag machine, and so comes the exception!....the biggest ordela is no center lint filter....the newer design was self cleaning....I never seen a big loss either way

ashame for some of the flaws that Norge had, the bigger tub and agitator and longer, slower stroke made it a nice machine to consider....although some have had great luck with these machines.....nobody is perfect

 

[70series]

Maytag In 2nd Video

Looks like the guts of an A206. That two tone Powerfin really makes tidal waves on the lower water levels. I grew up with that model, so this brings back some memories.